When, if ever, will RW buyers remorse set in?

[kid a]

They voted for an economical, domestic, international and intellectual failure.

When will they admit it? What will it take?

[lovedems]

1. A republican admit failure?

I am not holding my breath.

Look at the failure of the past 4 years. They CHEER failure, they vote for failure. They never admit failure.

[LastKnight]

2. it wont. not among the wingers...

it will however come sooner or later from the moderates and swing voters. i give it a year.

-LK

[Nashyra]

4. I've met 3 people who have apologized

[LastKnight]

9. ive seen a few as well.

but, nothing widespred. i think in a year we will have tons of moderates going 'this isnt what we asked for' or whatnot. im not sure. fact is i dont know, but its bound to happen sooner or later.

-LK

[kid a]

12. wow , that would feel good to hear

[salin]

16. i don't get it

if after two weeks they have already appologized - why the heck did they vote for him in the first place. Nothing has changed. I can see people appologizing for the first vote - it was hard to see how radical teambush would get - but now he is no different than he was when they voted for him. No big event to wake up from and say - oh my gosh - what did I do with that vote... I just don't get it.

[xchrom]

3. reagan was a failure -- they made him a saint

bush -- they'll make a deity.

[salin]

5. divorcing the movement from bush

there is almost a cultlike attachment in someparts to him - not to his ideas, nor his policies but to him. Just as it took the election after Reagan (in which poppy ran behind for some of the race) to break the strong grip of attachment... it will take the next race to break it again. And remember bushsr, followed a landslide reagan reelection as opposed to two bitterly fought and close elections. If we on the left remain savvy - and keep building our infrastructure (more think tanks, more media exposure, etc.) I wouldn't be surprised to see some real buyers remorse kick in by the midterms.

[DBoon]

15. This is called a "cult of personality"

and is a characteristic of totalitarian regimes.

[Menshevik]

6. They will never admit failure

They'll just blame everything on the Democrats, as usual

[msturgis524]

7. Come on - its all Clinton's fault

You should know that by now

[AP]

8. The worse it gets, the more they'll blame someone other than Bush.

[Florida_Geek]

10. Probably after bin Laden kills a couple thousand more ppl

:scared:

[Chimpanzee]

11. True conservatives (if there are any left) must be very dismayed

He has in NO WAY been a fiscal conservative - government has gotten bigger and the deficit/national debt have ballooned.

He doesn't believe in resource/environmental conservation - there are so many examples of that I won't bother.

He in no way has a 'conservative' foreign or domestic policy.

He's a criminal and should be shipped off to the international courts as soon as our own courts are through with him.

[Cyrano]

13. They'll praise King George and smile and nod at his every action:

But how many of them know about a German anti-Nazi activist, Pastor Martin Niemoller:

...first they came for the communists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for the trade unionists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic.

Then they came for me, and by then, there was no one left to speak up.

[TimeToGo]

14. I think it will be like Nixon

It will be hard to find someone who admits to voting for him.

[Career Prole]

17. They are convinced Mr. Blackwell will top the "Ten Best Dressed

Emperors" list with their Chimperor.
Their eyes no longer see the truth nor do their ears hear it.

[GR]

18. Disraeli Said "Never Apologize, Never Explain" They've Adopted

it as their motto....Whatever we think IT'S FREAKING WORKING!!!" We've got to fight them...

[Crunchy Frog]

19. When their kids start getting drafted...

maybe.

[LiberalAndProud]

20. When they realize that * embroiled the US in an UNWINNABLE war.

Pre-emptive war is okay if it is winnable. Failure to avoid defeat=buyers remorse.

We cannot win this war. The draft will come because we cannot win this war without more troops. And even so, we will not win this war.

Perhaps then the RWingers will realize they bought a faulty product when they voted *2.

(*2 = not elected TWICE)

[Vogon_Glory]

21. RW Buyers' Remorse Will Only Kick In When Failure Is Visible

Right-wing buyer's remorse will only kick in when the signs of "conservative"/Republican failure is so apparent that all but the most self-blinded can't help but notice that failure.

As much as I hate to say it, the failures of the incumbent and his Banana Republican followers haven't become that apparent to most of their supporters yet. The air and water pollution levels haven't become noticeably bad enough for them to take notice. The level of fishing stocks haven't sunk to the level where the US fishing industry has collapsed. US farmers are still able to sell to Europe instead of seeing their old buyers turn to alternate suppliers in Russia and the Ukraine. Not enough people have sickened and died because of the Boosh regime's gutting of food safety regulation and enforcement. Many of our children are still getting half-way decent educations, and not enough public school systems have closed down yet. The Arabs haven't cut off our oil yet. A second Gee Dubya Bush recession hasn't occurred yet. Not nearly enough of the voting classes are going to bed hungry at night. Not nearly enough individuals have lost their private pensions and Social Security is still writing checks.

It's going to take a lot of suffering for the grandchildren of Mencken's "booboisie" to wise up as to what the Runnin' Dubya Posse is doing to them. Dealing out suffering at home is not a Democratic strong suit. Fortunately for the Good Guys, it's something the Republicans excel at.

Perhaps when they find themselves shivering in cardboard lined shantytown shacks, listening to their crying children and eharing the growling of their empty stomachs, some of the Gee Dubya Bush fan club might begin to consider the possibility that they were had and that voting Republican might not have been that wise.

Perhaps not.

[Fifth of Five]

22. Depends on which RWs

Fundies never will - the Dems are evil.

Hawks might - If they have the war brought home to them in personal terms (ex: child killed in Iraq) and things continue to go badly.

Fiscal Conservatives - Great Googlie Mooglies - I have no idea why these folks aren't mad as hell already.

They are so blind, it will take failure on a massive scale, and probably a huge scandal (a la Watergate) to get them to see B* for what he really is. Even then, they will simply forget that they voted for this idiot, and say they voted for Kerry. Isn't that the lesson of Watergate? The Dems really did win based on the polling done in 1973.

Probably, they will never admit it.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

23. I've already seen a few cases

one flat out admitted she regretted voting for * and the other four or five have been hinting around about it and going around looking glum, but I don't give a shit, they made their bed, let them lie in it.

[driver8]

24. A few cases??

The election is barely 2 weeks old and they are already regretting their decision?? Shouldn't that say something about the decision to vote for this moron in the first place?

I wonder what they'll be saying when their children and grandchildren are drafted to fight this war?

Man, they piss me off!!

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

25. Yeah

it pisses me off, too.

I get the sense they didn't believe bush was going to win, so they saw their vote as fairly harmless. Now that he has "won," they are a bit freaked out over it. One even told me "I never expected him to win, I thought Kerry was going to win big-time."

[no name no slogan]

26. As Malcolm X said, "when the chickens come home to roost"

When the religio-fundies see their taxes go up again, while the Wall Streeters get more handouts, then they'll get their buyers remorse.

When they lose their jobs and burn up their unemployment, then they'll get buyers remorse.

When their air becomes so polluted that there's a smog alert weekly, then they'll get buyers remorse.

When the draft is officially reinstated, and they send a loved one off to die in an unnecessary war, then they'll get buyers remorse.

When their company goes bankrupt, and their pension funds somehow "disappear", then they'll get buyers remorse.

Once the wrongheaded policies of BushCo start affecting them on a personal level, THEN they'll get buyers remorse.

But probably not until then.

[library_max]

27. Kathleen Parker wrote a very surprising column

encouraging the Republicans to be gracious and to preserve the spirit of bipartisanship. Her theme was that we are all one nation and can't get along without the ideas and the good will of all sides.

I have to say I was taken aback by this from Parker, who is one of the most insistently anti-intellectual of the Republican apologists. But then, if she voted her hatred for intellectuals while realizing Bush's limitations, and then woke up the day after Election Day realizing that he is now for all intents and purposes our dictator, I can imagine a sense of buyer's remorse.

It's sad, really, hating intellectuals that much and then worrying that Bush might do something stupid. Wasn't that the whole point?