CatWoman
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Wed Dec-01-04 10:49 PM
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I think a lot of Americans support the "war" in Iraq |
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because, like they keep telling us to "get over it", they never got over Bush Sr. pulling out during the first Gulf War.
They had bigger hard ons for Saddam than * did.
They've been lusting for Saddam's blood for years.
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Wed Dec-01-04 10:51 PM
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Saddam has been in custody for a year, and was impotent for some number of years before that. The invasion of Iraq has as much to do with Saddam as it does with fighting terrorism.
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Wed Dec-01-04 10:52 PM
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2. I know that. You know that. |
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They know that.
But it doesn't/didn't matter.
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Wed Dec-01-04 11:10 PM
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7. at som epoint I think someone in the media |
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will break ranks and start showing the "moonscapes" from Fallujah, or the piles of dead bodies of children, and then support will probably dip sharply.
At least I hope they do, since if they don't, * is going to provoke a war with someone who's not the pushover that Iraq is.
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Wed Dec-01-04 10:57 PM
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3. I think they also get off on us killing |
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the "brown-skinned" people. I've actually heard quotes like Muslims are all godless scum and should be killed, every last one of them. Heck just go check out freeperville for confirmation of that.
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Thu Dec-02-04 04:38 PM
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29. This is the same thing I always hear too- |
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It's racism pure and simple. Kill all the brown people so we can use their oil in our giant rigs, I mean SUVs.
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Wed Dec-01-04 10:58 PM
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I don't know anyone who supports it, even military families who have loved ones in Iraq talk a lot about how wrong it is, they just won't go public with it for fear of retaliation.
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Wed Dec-01-04 11:07 PM
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You're living in denial if you don't believe a certain amount of the poplace doesn't support this "war".
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Wed Dec-01-04 11:31 PM
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11. I listen when people talk to me. This war is not as popular as you think. |
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Wed Dec-01-04 11:21 PM
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10. I guess you haven't done any interviews here in Oklahoma... |
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there's a huge majority of assholes here who would tell you what they keep trying to tell me, that "we're getting even with the bastards for 9/11"... :grr: is the best I can do when I think about it...
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Wed Dec-01-04 11:32 PM
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13. People (with good reason) are afraid to speak out in public |
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Wed Dec-01-04 11:35 PM
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14. I have seem a few of that type myself |
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The truly scary part is when I tell them Iraq had nothing to do with 911 most of them didn't know that fact. Of the ones that I explain it to I would say around half end up believing me, the other half are a lost cause. Just how ignorant and uninformed can a person be?
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Wed Dec-01-04 11:41 PM
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You must live in a cave somewhere. I'm in a red state and the war is still very popular among the morons here.
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Wed Dec-01-04 11:45 PM
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17. The blood lust is alarming |
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They are a vengeful, hard hearted bunch.
And they project that hatred so well.
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Thu Dec-02-04 10:30 AM
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26. I’m in Illinois and it’s still bad here, too. |
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Thu Dec-02-04 10:30 AM
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25. Wow. Most people I know, other than my immediate family, support this war |
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Most people I work with believe we should expand our military assault on the middle east further, too. Many of my extended family are in the military and they all are gung ho on the war. I wish I didn’t know anyone that supported the war.
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Wed Dec-01-04 10:59 PM
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5. Sure they do-so long as "those other people" are the ones fighting it. |
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That is why Bush will never be stupid enough to bring back the draft...
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Wed Dec-01-04 11:10 PM
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Selling a war is the easiest thing a Republican president can do. I've been the suspicious malcontent on the wrong side of popular opinion enough times to know that GeeDub would get whatever wars he wanted, especially after 911.
They also love Big Daddy Authoritarians, in spite of their self-serving claptrap about being Small Gummint Individualists. They swooned over Reagan and spooge everytime the Chimp tells them to go fuck themselves.
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Wed Dec-01-04 11:16 PM
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9. "we fight them there so we don't have to fight them here" |
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of course they don't care that it wasn't iraq or anyone from iraq that attacked us on 9/11. and then there are some(majority of bush voters) who DO think iraq was involved in 9/11.
some of them might admit to having questions about how things are going in iraq, but they still in the end come down to "well, at least we are fighting them over there and not here". it makes them feel good, like we are doing something. they are living their lives here and have no worries of their own(so far) when it comes to the war.
you should see the things some people say when debating on iraq. there is always a "but" involved also. "yeah, i don't like the deaths, BUT" "yeah i don't think Bush was entirely truthful BUT". many of them said if Kerry got into office he would have taken the troops out of iraq and then we would have had another 9/11 attack.
the media is a huge problem since they don't report the truth about how things are.
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Wed Dec-01-04 11:31 PM
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12. A stupid saying if there ever was one: |
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"we fight them there so we don't have to fight them here"
God I just hated that statement. It's callous, ridiculous, and makes not even the slightest bit of sense.
But it sold. And it sold awfully well. As the poster from OK said, a lot of people thought we were getting revenge for 9/11. It didn't matter if that went against the truth or that there were no connection to 9/11. Reminds me of that Darryl Wurly song (or maybe Toby Keith) where he says "I don't know the difference between Iraq and Iran.". Well, that goes without saying for most of the public.
This is a country of stupid people.
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Wed Dec-01-04 11:48 PM
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18. it's the stupidity that makes them most dangerous |
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Wed Dec-01-04 11:35 PM
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15. 18 months ago over 70% supported it, now it's about 50% |
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A drop of 20-25% public supoprt in a year and a half is a big shift of opinion. If this president continues to pursue this war or more wars of conquest his job approval numbers will be in the 30's by 2008. And if that's the case, then the Democrats will nominate a REAL anti-war candidate.
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Thu Dec-02-04 04:30 PM
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27. But it's been holding steady at about 50%, which suggests that |
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we are back to the old conservative/liberal divide. Conservatives are going to continue supporting this war for a long, long time.
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Wed Dec-01-04 11:57 PM
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19. sure they support it as long as SOMEONE ELSE does the dying :-( eom |
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Thu Dec-02-04 12:00 AM
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20. US majority say Iraq invasion a mistake |
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Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 12:03 AM by LynnTheDem
And the US majority has been saying that for some time now.
But when you have 60% of bush supporters who still think Iraq had WMD, we've already found WMD in Iraq, that Iraq did 911, that the world supported bush's invasion, then you've got a lot of incredibly ignorant people who support the invasion.
Can't wait until most of them find out what a bunch of conned rubes they've been.
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:21 AM
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they need to walk the walk.
I'd like to see a whole brigade composed entirely of them.
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:31 AM
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22. FIRST, show them REALITY and FACTS about all they're mistaken about |
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Make sure they learn the FACT that Iraq has NOT had ANY wmd since 1991, that Iraq had NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the 911 attacks, that Iraq has NO ties to al Qaeda or any other international terrorist org, that the world DID NOT and DOES NOT support bush's invasion & occupation...and THEN line em up & send em to Iraq to die for bush's lies, KNOWING they are dying for bush's LIES.
:)
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Thu Dec-02-04 10:27 AM
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23. i don't think it is support |
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as much as resignation. I think that many Americans have come to feel a certain level of acceptance despite the LIES because of the troops -"ok now that we're there we have a job to complete" .
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Thu Dec-02-04 10:28 AM
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24. why can't all the "support the war" types go fight it |
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that would solve a lot of problems...including decreasing the trogodyte/Christian fascist population
The draft should only include Christian fascists who supported the war...only fair, no? Otherwise, you are a big hypocrite, arm-chair warrior...who should be butt-screwed repeatedly as your eternal damnation punishment.
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Thu Dec-02-04 04:38 PM
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28. Is this news? well maybe to some in the far left echo chamber |
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Most Americans still believe our troops are there protecting us. As long as they believe that, they will support this war.
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Thu Dec-02-04 04:41 PM
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30. The "keep the darkies of my porch" war - we fight them there so that |
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we don't have to fight them here idiocy is believed by many. I still don't think it's a majority anymore. The price is starting to be seen by more and moore.
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