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othermeans Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 11:02 AM
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Schwarzenegger has retained his Austrian citizenship
In their rush to anoint the governator, the Republicans have failed to point out one thing that might dissuade Americans from supporting the amendment: "Schwarzenegger, 57, has been a U.S. citizen since 1983. He has retained Austrian citizenship."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/2004-12-02-schwarzenegger-amendment_x.htm?csp=34
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rabid_nerd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 11:03 AM
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1. I still don't support the amendment without Arnold
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 11:04 AM by rabid_nerd
INVEST ONE GENERATION... That's all.

So you can't be President, your children can. Isn't that good enough you selfish so and sos??
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lawladyprof Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 01:08 PM
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14. I am not an immigration lawyer but I am a dual national
British-US. As I understand it, the US does not recognize my dual nationality but Great Britain does. In order to no longer be a British subject/citizen, I would have had to renounce my British citizenship formally. I am exploring getting British citizenship for my children--making them British citizens by descent (rather than birth) and it is my understanding from talking to several attorneys that the US would not consider this a renunciation of their American citizenship unless they formally renounced it. Although this was not always the case, I can travel on either passport.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 11:07 AM
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2. So what? Diebold still luvs him.
You write as if that matters.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 11:15 AM
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3. So when he fucks up this country as president he has someplace safe to go
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 11:16 AM
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4. I'm curious as to how he was able to 'retain' his
Austrian citizenship. Part of the deal in getting US citizenship was that you had to give up any and all others. Was there a special dispensation for Arnold in 1983? Any immigration lawyers aboard?
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gWbush is Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 11:20 AM
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5. frequent travellers can get dual-citizenship
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 11:28 AM
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6. Hmmm...
this says no


The laws may have changed, but Austria is listed as a "lose" here.


When I was living abroad, dual citizen was relatively easy to get, especially for a woman. Men of draft age had to make a choice at 18. (1950's-60's.)

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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 11:35 AM
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8. It looks as though Arnold had to reapply to become an
Austrian citizen AFTER obtaining his US papers. I think he may have had designs on running for office in Austria at some point.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:04 PM
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10. Didn't he marry Maria in about 1983? If so, interesting....
n/t:think:
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:51 PM
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13. Huh?
I don't think this is true. I'm pretty sure the U.S. recognizes dual citizenships in most cases. Why would they have made an exception for a bodybuilder way back then?
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 11:32 AM
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7. I thought a citizenship to another country had to be dropped in order to
become a US citizen.. It used to be that way. Might have changed. I knew a girl from England who would not get her US citizenship, because she did not want to give up her British citizenship.
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 11:36 AM
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9. Yep, that's the way it works for 'normal' people.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:37 PM
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11. I'm not sure that's the case anymore
And in my situation, I've always had dual citizenship because I was born in Canada but my parents were American citizens.
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Tharks Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:41 PM
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12. amendment sounds like a bad idea
I can't even really justify why I feel that way - it just doesn't seem like an immigrant should be able to become the President. They won't have known what it is like to grow up American, go through the American school system, experience American teenage issues, go to American college, live through American history and so on and so forth.
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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 01:53 PM
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15. When my husband became a citizen in June 1999, the only he
had to do was hand in his "green card" after taking the oath. He still holds his Irish/EU passport, but when he leaves or returns to the US he shows his American passport.

The US doesn't make anyone formally renounce citizenship when they become US citizens.
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lawladyprof Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 03:53 PM
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16. But the US government considers him (like me) to be
only a citizen of the US. Now the British government recognizes that I have citizenship in both countries but the US government I am a US citizen only. I don't know all the ins and outs of it really--like what would happen if I tried to re-enter the US using my British passport after a trip abroad.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 04:03 PM
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17. I badly wish I had friends in Austria who could help me start an
"Amend for Hasselhoff" movement in Austria to seek amendment of its election laws so that David Hasselhoff could be elected to run the country. Of course, the idea would be ridiculed in Austria, but somehow I think the scorn heaped on "Amend for Hasselhoff" in Austria would reflect appropriately on this "Amend for Arnold" nonsense here in the US.
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othermeans Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 01:31 AM
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18. That is a great idea! Hasselhoff is so popular in Europe thought it might
just pass!
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