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FullCountNotRecount Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:28 AM
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Former pro-McCain Attorney convinced there was Fraud in OH! Cspan
Edited on Sat Dec-04-04 04:03 AM by FullCountNotRecount
had Alliance for Democracy attorney Cliff Arnebeck, a former GOP and McCain supporter. He claimed 65,000 of Bush's votes "migrated" from Kerry based on the counts they did Election nite. Wow!

http://www.cspan.org/VideoArchives.asp?z1=&PopupMenu_Name=Politics/Elections&CatCodePairs=Issue,PE;

I think it helps that we have a former republican who has taken issue with many things in Ohio in a nonpartisan way handling the fraud lawsuit.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:32 AM
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1. Very Interesting!
EOM
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:41 AM
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2. What we are seeing is probably historic
but the media is sstill not covering it very well...

Folks we are living history...

My question is... IF this vote is turned, will Bush leave the WH? I suspect things will get mightly interesting...

Can you all say... CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS?

I knew you could
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:45 AM
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3. 65,000 votes "migrating" means a 130,000 vote swing.
I think the current spread in Ohio stands at 119,000.

The same media that latched onto R.W. theories about Ron Brown and Vince Foster continues to ignore a growing body of evidence that the 2004 election was stolen. Bad Liberal Media! Bad!
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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:58 AM
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4. See http://jamboi.mydd.com: Arnebeck interview transcript @ JJ rallyn/t
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 09:00 AM
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5. kick
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 09:01 AM
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6. Geez, by the time they confirm it and tie it to Bush, it's going to
take a team of surgeons to extricate McCain from Bush's butt.
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UnapologeticLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 10:54 AM
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7. Why is the Kerry campaign suddenly seeking to get involved in OH recounts?
My grandfather sent me an article yesterday about how the Kerry campaign is seeking to be added to the plaintiffs in the Ohio recount case. Anyone know why they suddenly want to be involved? They are saying they don't dispute the results, but do you think something happened that made them realize they could still win? I am not getting my hopes up, but I admit to holding out a faint hope.

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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:59 PM
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8. because they want to commit the biggest flip-flop in history
because they're idiots and conceded too soon.

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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 04:04 PM
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9. sorry, nordi, but I don't agree, they would have smeared him even
worse if he did the Gore thing cuz they know how to do it now. It is much better if we the people scream loud for a recount and do not settle for the smoke and mirrors election we just had.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 04:12 PM
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10. Sorry, I disagree...
.... Kerry has handled the post-election situation just about as poorly as he could possibly have.

He didn't need to jump up and concede so soon, nor did he have to rail about fraud. He could have simply said "there are some questions, and we need some time to get answers". He could have held the door open without shrillly crying "fraud".

It may well be that he simply thought he had lost fair and square and wanted it to be over. We'll never really know will we?

But to call me dissapointed would be the understatement of the century.
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