could Someone Please Explain To Me (Simply) ...

[Dinger]

the difference between the DLC & DNC?

[whalerider55]

1. easy

DLC- Democrats who Lean COnservatively
DNC- Democrats who are Not Crackheads

it confused me for a while.

now i just need to find the real democrats...

whalerider55

[Dinger]

2. Who Leads DNC? DLC?

[whalerider55]

6. hmmm

let me put it this way.

the DLC would be lead by Elmer FUdd

the DNC byFoghorn Leghorn

The Greens by Daffy Duck

and the Libertarians by Bugs Bunny.

[yardwork]

14. That makes me a Green, with Libertarian as a fall-back position

[scarletwoman]

7. The current and retiring chair of the DNC is Terry McAuliffe.

The current head of the DLC is Al From.

[scarletwoman]

3. Briefly,

DNC stands for Democratic National Committee -- basically, the national Democratic Party.

DLC stands for Democratic Leadership Council -- this is a faction WITHIN the Democratic Party.

If you want to know what sort of policies the DLC advocates, a quick google search ought to bring you plenty of information.

sw

[Cheswick2.0]

4. simple

The DNC is the official party organization which makes rules, etc...
The DLC is and outside organization, an influence group some democrats join because they take money from corporations and distribute it to candidates who will vote their right wing aggenda.
Some people who in the past worked with or joined the DLC really have nothing to do with it anymore like Gore and Dean and I am sure there are many others.
The DLC is the group which thinks that the more we look like republicans the better off we are.

[Dinger]

9. That's Kind Of What I Thought

[Philostopher]

5. Okay, as I understand it ...

the DNC is the Democratic National Committee. It's an official part of the Democratic party -- it's the 'management wing' if you will (though using the words 'management' and 'Democratic' in the same sentence always brings the phrase 'herding cats' into my head).

The DLC is the Democratic Leadership Committee. It was an informal group, originally, formed to pull the party in certain directions (some have said more thoroughly pro-corporate directions) because those who belonged to it believed that Democrats were perceived as too anti-corporate, so the money wasn't coming in from the corporations. There were other issues, as well, but the corporate-friendliness issue is probably the one that causes the most contention around here. DLC Dems were, for instance, more favorable to NAFTA -- remember Ross Perot's 'giant sucking sound' soundbite from his third-party run (I believe this was in 1992). Not that he was completely right -- NAFTA can be blamed for a lot of things that are unfriendly to workers, but most of the jobs he thought would go south have actually gone to Asia, by now.

Anyway, for a while now, the DLC has been in favor with Democratic Party leadership -- mostly because Bill Clinton was a DLCer and succeeded in winning the presidency twice in a row, for the first time for a Democrat in decades. Personally, I don't think leadership Dems allowed for how much of Clinton's success was due to Bill Clinton -- they attributed possibly far too much of his success to DLC-inspired policy, rather than the cult of personality that surrounded him. But that's just my opinion.

[greenohio]

8. DNC=good DLC=bad

The Democratic National Committee is the official organization that runs the party at the national level.

The Democratic Leadership Council is a group of Dems who subscribe to a certain set of ideas.... mostly moderation on economic issues. Clinton was a former DLC chair and he attributes his success to that organization. The DLC is hated here for several reasons:

1)It is believed that the DLC colluded with Dems in Iowa to fix the primaries to keep a certain front-running candidate down.

2)The DLC purports moderation (mostly on fiscal issues, mind you).. we can't have that in the party.

[scarletwoman]

11. The DLC doesn't subscribe to economic "moderation",

it subscribes to CORPORATISM.

It is the PNAC/neo-con faction of the Democratic Party that advocates abandoning the party's traditional base of workers, the poor, and minorites in order to cash in on sucking up to Wall Street and multinational corporations.

[greenohio]

12. Yes, and they all need the boot. Lets start with Feinstien and Dodd.

Then we'll go after Ed Rendell, and Cantwell. Only after we get rid of those who BELIEVE in corporatism, can we win again.

[GRLMGC]

13. Yes, let's lose some Democratic seats

That's wise.

[scarletwoman]

16. It's entirely up to their respective constituencies whether any of those

you've named are given "the boot".

What I personally advocate is for a strong and organized grassroots to educate voters and hold elected officials and the Democratic Party to account on the issues that pit the interests of the People against the interests of the Ruling Class.

I'm looking for evolution, not Stalinist purges.

sw

[yurbud]

10. bureaucracy vs. advocacy

The Democratic National Committee is part of the formal party structure that theoretically co-ordinates and helps ALL democratic candidates.

The Democratic Leadership Council is a subset of Democratic politicians who are more moderate and business friendly though they still have some progressive tendencies. The organization is NOT part of the formal party structure, but it's a very powerful group. Bill Clinton was part of it and Al Gore. I don't know if they liked Kerry as much. It serves roughly the same function as Newt Gingrich's group in terms supporting like minded candidates.

[yardwork]

15. This thread goes a long way toward explaining why we're getting our butts

kicked. While we quibble over whether we want Elmer Fudd or Daffy Duck as our leader, the Republicans figured out how to steal elections.