Pat Buchanan is on C-Span this weekend (book tv) He SLAMS neo-cons

[Wordie]

He's speaking about his book, "Where the Right Went Wrong" and its on right now where I am.

Just thought people might be interested in the opinions of a such an iconic figure of the traditional conservative camp. He has criticized the Iraq war and although a staunch supporter of *, continues to amaze with some of the things he says. For instance, he just said that Iraq will become the West Bank of the United States. He has a very cogent argument against the neo-cons. (Don't ask me why he supported *. I said he was amazing, not consistent!)

DISCLAIMER: Yes, I know how far to the right he is (and I am not), but that's why some people might be interested: to see how the other side thinks.

[yltlatl]

1. Much as I revile Pat

for being a racist, sexist pig and a frequent shill for the administration, I find him to generally be right on on foreign policy when he doesn't feel pressure to kiss neo-con ass. For instance, he frequently criticized the idea of invading Iraq before we went in. He argued that it was a red herring and he criticized the idea of preemptive war, even though he's far from a UN-hugger. I chalk it up to him being a traditional "no foreign entanglements" conservative at heart.

On edit: Oh yeah, and he is one of very few conservatives who frequently and rightly criticizes our ME policy for being way too pro-Israel.

[Soup Bean]

Listen to what he's saying...

..."it's not our principles they hate, it's our policies"

[Soup Bean]

2. Listen to what he's saying...

..."it's not our principles they hate, it's our policies"

[Wordie]

3. "Terrorism is the price you pay for empire!" He is amazing!

[HysteryDiagnosis]

5. ""Terrorism is the price you pay for empire!"

How often do you hear someone tell the naked truth on the telly?? This is one example, we need hundreds, thousands more.

HYDROGEN IS THE BEST REVENGE

[Warren DeMontague]

14. That's because unlike Bush, he's willing to actually admit that

the anti-sex, anti-woman, anti-gay religious crazies that he represents have more in common than they have differences with the anti-sex, anti-woman, and anti-gay religious crazies in places like Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan.

[yorkiemommie1]

4. his magazine is American Conservative

it is also online and it has published some hardhitting criticisms of bush and the neocons' imperial ambitions.

[Wordie]

6. Yep...I've seen it. Although Buchanan endorsed *, the magazine didn't.

[noclonyofthechimp]

7. He is on C-SPAN now.

[leesa]

8. What a hypocrite. He says noble-sounding things and yet betrays our

country by supporting Bush. Republicans are such weenies! So afraid to step out of the pack.

[Lucygirl]

9. Hypocrite indeed...

Yeah good old Pat slammed Bush, and his policies throughout the book, but when push came to shove he endorsed Bush for re-election.

Just another phony out to seem like he is important, and sell his book.

And that goes for his sister too, another phony.

[Donna Zen]

10. Voted bush? the blood is on his hands

Yammering about the neocon party and then voting for them, tells me the Buchanan is certifiably insane or dumber than the rocks in my backyard. Note: I don't think he is dumb.

As we sell our country to China to underwrite the endless war, there will be less and less that we can do about our domestic policy. Foreign policy, the debt, and economic policy are now one.

Just as Buchanan needs to realize that neocons with a socially rightwing Christian voting base constitute the republican party.

So too, must American republicans accept that as General Clark has pointed out: "the knee bone's connected to the thigh bone."

[Wordie]

11. What he said in response to a question about that was that he didn't agree

with * on hardly anything, but he agreed with Kerry on less. (or words to that effect) He could have just not voted though.

I posted this not because I am a big Buchanan supporter, but because I am amazed that I agree with some of the things he does say. He was very much against the Iraq war, although favoring Afganistan. And, he has some interesting things to say about the neo-cons, and so is worth listening to, if only for that.

[Donna Zen]

19. not critical of the agreement

I've often read Buchanan's essays; after all, he's a good name to throw around when making the case to wingnutz.

Nevertheless_there is nothing that John Kerry has ever done or can ever think about doing that is worse than the actions of the regime. Buchanan's vote, whether he can admit to himself or not, was one of blind partisanship whatever the rationale. If he recognizes the sins of the neocons and votes to continue their reign of terror; then he has sanctioned murder. Moreover, it is a betrayal of democracy.

The blood is on his hands, and there is more blood on those hands than on the hands of the duped and the foolish.

[imenja]

12. he's on MSNBC five days a week

and he has made many excellent criticisms of Bush--on Iraq, spending, corporate cronyism--yet despite all that he endorsed Bush for president and was fierce and at times nasty in his condemnation of Kerry.
To be honest, I think he gets far too much time to express his views. I'd like to see some others get a chance, even other conservatives.

[Wordie]

20. Yes...he is hardly someone I would consider a friend to the left! BUT, he

is worth listening to for his analysis of those areas on which there seems to be more agreement. He is a bulldog when he gets onto some issues, and he just goes on and on about them. As annoying as he can be, though (he was the one, imho, who was responsible for the vilification of Dean for the "scream"-he was on so much that it seemed for all that morning, on MSNBC at least, all one saw was Buchanan over and over slamming Dean, and talking about Dean being unstable or unacceptable as a candidate), he is VERY intelligent, and makes one think.

[Warren DeMontague]

13. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

And he's one person whose criticism of Israel, even when legitimate, really is doubtlessly driven by Anti-Semitism.

He can fuck off. The only thing I'll ever thank him for is scaring the bejeebus out of the American Public during the 1992 RNC and helping to elect the last competent President of the United States.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. He Would Have Supported The Iraq War If There Were Jews And Gays There To

Be Killed

[Wordie]

21. That seems a bit over the top to me... n/t

[Skidmore]

15. Pat has spent his entire post-Nixon administration years trying to

justify Nixon's actions. He's as two-faced and inconsistent as they come and loyal to a fault to the RW agenda, even though he claims he's not welcome at their convention any more. I agree that he gets too much face time, as does his sister.

[redstateblues]

16. Like tweety, he wants it both ways- screw him and his book

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. Tweety Was Never A Homophobe, Racist, Misogynist Or Anti-Semite

nt

[LimpingLib]

22. That makes ONE person telling the truth. (and sadly ONLY ONE)

Shut up Pat your despicable disruptions arent compatible with the DemoPpublican Elite foreign policy "facts" advocated by foreign policy wonks in both partys , defence contractors , the media , etc.


REPLACE HIM AT ONCE!!!

Kissinger where are you ??

Gergen???


NEED ....MUST HAVE .... more effective flaw proof echo chamber!!!!

[Tinoire]

23. Buchanan is a true conservative

and they hate the Neo-Conservatives as much as true Liberals hate the Neo-Liberals. It's time for both parties to kick the New World Order fools OUT. I'll join with conservatives like Buchanan before I even entertain the thought of joining with NED type neo-Liberals. I find it quite interesting that so many of the Neo-cons were Democrats before. Richard Perle, to this day, is still a Democrat.

It's precisely because of such people that I reject the term Liberal now. I don't want to be known as a Liberal because my issues with those fools are more than their machivellically exploited wedge issues of abortion and gay rights that provide cover for war-mongerers like Feinstein, Lantos and Lieberman.