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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:45 PM
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Poll question: How about an All-Female Presidential/VP ticket in 2008?
Here's a list. There are others but this was what I came up with. You can interchange each as president or VP.

Is America ready? Probably not.

Will it matter anyway since Diebold will win the next election again...so what's the difference... here are some and not all...


Hillary
Nancy Pelosi



Patsy Mink (Hawaii)


Tammy Baldwin (WI)
Barbara Lee (CA)


Barbara Boxer (CA)
Mary Landrieu (LA)


Carol Moseley Braun (IL)
Janet Napolitano (AZ)


Zoe Lofgren (CA)

Jeanne Shaheen (NH)


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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:50 PM
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1. Not even close to happening. I am sorry to say.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:52 PM
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2. Clinton/ Jackson Lee
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:52 PM
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3. Why the hell not?
The male chauvanist vote doesn't go Democratic anyway. It would totally kill the GOP amongst female swing voters.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:08 PM
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26. You forgot the self-hating conservative women
who vote for men because they hate both themselves and their fellow females.

I think the Repunks ought to put two females on the ticket first. Only then would we be able to put a two-woman Dem ticket to challenge them. The Dem ladies would have a field day accusing the Rep girls (they are girls because they never grew up) of betraying womanhood. :evilgrin:
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:54 PM
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4. Hillary & Nancy
Yeaaaahhh!!!!
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:57 PM
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5. Well, if that happened then Diebold
would probably be honest that year since there is no reason to risk getting caught cheating when you are assured of victory. <---Ask Nixon's ghost.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 02:01 AM
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6. Hagel will probably run...and with his links to Diebold...
Perhaps we should assume nothing is really going to get down with voter and election reform in time for 2008. The way things will get stalled and shortchanged in DC, it will probably get even worse.

So let's run two women. Fuggit.
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KSAtheist Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 02:08 AM
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7. Iceberg, dead ahead!
Please. We could get away with a female VP candidate, and if it's Hillary, a presidential candidate, but having a dual ticket is too greedy. The fundies will come out of the woodwork, and the repubs will eat them alive.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 07:54 AM
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11. they already came out of the woodwork this year
The fundies came out in record numbers this year.
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V. Kid Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 02:12 AM
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8. The only thing
I'm not a Hilary hater or anything, although she's too right-leaning imo, but she would get destroyed nationally. Personally I think it would be best for it to look like she's the front-runner -- maybe make her the 'whipping girl' and then replace her with someone else at the last minute (around primary time).
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 07:58 AM
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12. they've already tried to destroy Hillary
And, to some extent, they have succeeded. How would a run for the presidency be different?
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V. Kid Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 07:16 PM
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22. Huh?
Sorry I don't think you understood my point.

It's rather simple (while she's a bit stiff imo, therefore not a great candidate) the Dems should pretend she's their candidate -- allow the right-wing freak machine to go Koo-Koo over it and then at the last minute have someone else gain traction and become the nominee.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 02:19 AM
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9. just add Bev Harris to the mix . . .
and watch the games begin.


sad , no?


dp

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infusionman Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 07:49 AM
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10. Not Hilary
She has too much baggage.

Robin Williams once said: "If there were a woman
president there would never be any wars. Just every 28 days
some intense negotiations."
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 08:01 AM
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13. I see the sexists have hit the thread
poor guys, one day you are going to share power whether you are personally ready or not.
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infusionman Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 03:58 PM
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18. I have no problem
With a woman as president.My Pastor (whom I helped hire)is a
woman. I am not a sexist, I work with women everyday.(I am a
Home Health Nurse) In fact, I am sometimes considered one of
the girls because they say things arounbd me they would never
say to their husbands or boyfriends.

The problem with you is you can't see humor when it is staring
at you right in the face.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 04:06 PM
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19. realists
Edited on Sun Dec-05-04 04:08 PM by w4rma
The first woman U.S. president will be a Republican, because Republicans can court moderate and liberal Democrats by doing so, while Democrats can only court moderate and conservative Republicans with white males.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:17 PM
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27. Eleanor Clift agrees with you--in her book about the first woman Pres.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 08:08 AM
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14. Can A Dead Person Run as Vice President... Much Less Serve...
Edited on Sun Dec-05-04 08:15 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
Think Patsy Mink...
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:50 PM
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17. Barbara Jordan is another who is sorely missed. n/t
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 08:44 AM
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15. Why is Eleanor Holmes Norton always ignored?
I'm continually impressed by her -- sharp, articulate, energetic, full of old-fashioned Dem fire and afraid of no one. I'd vote for her in a heartbeat.
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Comrade_Goldstein Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:43 AM
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16. There's one problem with Patsy Mink
She died in late 2002.
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GOPNotForMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 07:27 PM
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23. *tears*
What a loss it was. *sigh*
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 08:06 PM
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25. Didn't know that
I'd still vote for her.
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 04:36 PM
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20. nothing will matter until we get rid of the machines. nt
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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 05:17 PM
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21. Worst idea I have heard in a long time
No, I am not a sexist but a realist. It is like calling someone a racist because they don't think a black democrat can win in a rich white southern suburb. So we go from no female presidents to having an all female ticket. Hmmmm, not an experiment I want to gamble on to risk flushing another 4 years down the toilet. female/male, male/female, black male/white male, etc, etc but not two blacks, two females, or two hispanics etc for at least another 20 years. The country is not ready. Once again, I would vote for any of the above but the country would not as a majority. Flame away.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:20 PM
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28. I hope all realists will agree that their answers indicate that
working to reduce sexism should be a higher priority for Democrats in years to come, since you believe that sexism is alive and well in the US today.
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Muddy Waters Guitar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 07:57 PM
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24. Don't worry about M/F-- just get best *true Dem* candidate out there
I frankly don't care if our nominee is male, female, trans, black, white, brown, red, yellow, blue-- whatever. I don't care. I just want someone who's electable, and who'll live up to Dem principles. I frankly have strong doubts about Hillary Clinton on *both* counts-- Janet Napolitano might be better. But I care less about *who the Dem nominee is* than *what the nominee does*. If someone like Bayh or Gore can get us back into power and succeed on issues that Democrats care about, fine-- that's what we've got to aim for. We need someone who can run the country with Democratic policies and avoid the catastrophe the Bushies are pushing us toward. It's actions that count for me and most other voters, not personality or personal characteristics.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:49 PM
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29. I think it's possible. They could win
We could win back the gender gap we didn't have in '04, and that could have turned the election. Just as long as it isn't Hillary.
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:54 PM
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30. an "all gay male" ticket would be about as likely to win
don't get me wrong. I'm a man but I'd be perfectly happy if women ran the world. They're better at running things and they'd take better care of the kids.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:58 PM
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31. I bet an all-woman ticket with Tammy Baldwin in there could win
Tammy Baldwin (WI) is gay. And of course, the Freeps always fantasized that Hillary was gay.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 07:03 AM
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32. Tammy Baldwin wouldn't even win Wisconsin.
You're dreaming if you think a ticket with her on it could win.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:15 AM
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33. Badnewsflash: Braun's a good speaker but dirty dirty dirty--
no way could her past stand the scrutiny.
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