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skjpm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 03:20 PM
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Reid--a bigger milquetoast than Daschle?
Wow-whoda thunk they could do worse? This Reid guy makes Daschle look like Stone Cold Steve Austin. Just what we need.
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ArthurDent Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 03:24 PM
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1. The Jeffords Maestro
Reid is a Dem first Dem. He gave up his committee chairmanship in order to get Sen. Jeffords to caucus w/the party. He has been a leader of the Senate Dems for years. The title is well deserved.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 03:26 PM
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3. Pro-life is NOT a dem!
I am fighting for woman's reproductive rights. I want leadership to fight for me.
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Doomsayer13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 03:31 PM
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5. Reid has consistently fought to block Bush judicial noms
his votes may be mixed choice (they are) but his actions have been pro-choice. The fight for choice will come down to these nominations and Reid has earned his stripes here.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 03:45 PM
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8. Yeah, but if Angela Davis were the majority leader,
half the people on this forum would be denouncing her as a DLC/PNAC toady and demanding that we get a *real* leftist to take her place.

Some people just love drama.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 04:14 PM
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9. Angela Davis............LOL
Now there's a scary liberal boogy woman huh?

What a silly thing to say. Why would anyone say she is DLC? Do you know that DLC is not about who is right or left but rather who is populist or corporatist?
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 05:09 PM
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14. Yes, I know quite well who they are.
I also know that no one could possibly be left enough for some people here.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 04:16 PM
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11. That makes no sense
his votes are mixed but his "actions" are pro-choice? His votes are his actions.
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Doomsayer13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 07:47 PM
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19. Not really
if you know parliamentary procedure, you know you can vote for something you are sorely against or vice versa. Maintaining these filibusters is a pro-choice position, even if his votes are pro-life.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 04:35 PM
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12. We'll see........
I'll get back to you!
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blackangrydem Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 05:36 PM
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15. So much for the "Big Tent"
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chefgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:27 PM
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23. I don't care what his personal beliefs are
As far as abortion goes, he believes exactly the way I do. I personally dont believe in abortion and would never have one. However, I strongly believe in every womans right to choose, and have always fought to maintain that right.

His position is the same, and he said as much today on Meet the Press.

As far as I'm concerned, his personal beliefs don't matter one bit, as long as he continues to uphold a womans right to choose.

There really are some Christians, and I happen to be one of them, who have no problem separating their personal beliefs from their political beliefs on this issue.

-chef-
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 03:25 PM
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2. they ignored my "New Rule"
No leadership posts to Red state senators and congressmen.
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iwantmycountryback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 07:54 PM
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20. Nevada is more of a purple state
Bush won by only about 20,000 votes. And Reid just was re-elected this year (and by a margin of 61-35), and he'll probably retire after this term, so he doesn't really have much to worry about.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 03:27 PM
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4. See earlier thread; very different view than yours.
Edited on Sun Dec-05-04 03:28 PM by AlinPA
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 03:34 PM
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6. Ried was good to excellent. Much better than Daschle.
He didn't sound like he was whining which Daschle always did.

He took NO crap for spudhead. He just ignored him and made his points. Barely looked at the guy.

He said Social Security privatization was a scam to take money from recipients and give to to Wall Street fat cats.

He supported an earlier statement where he called * a liar (one of those spudhead things where he quotes the guest). He just said, yes he is. This was on Yucca Mtn.

He gave Scalia a backhanded compliment; said he was very smart but a problem for Chief due to "ethical problems."

On abortion, he said he represented the Democratic party and would not let his own views get in the way.

Hello, this guy is a smart operator. One of those real friendly, courteous types that nails you real good while he's smiling.

Get ready. He will be something to watch when the heat gets turned up.
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 03:38 PM
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7. they might as well nominate
Jerry Falwell. This loser will be yet another Bush ass-kisser.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 04:15 PM
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10. I see both sides of the extreme are out today
Jerry Falwell? Not hardly
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 02:18 AM
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24. my dear cheswick
the truth is always extreme.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 02:34 AM
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25. Oh, please.
Give me a break.
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 04:50 PM
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13. Yup.. It bodes ill for the democratic party. Reid is a turd. N/T
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 06:01 PM
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16. To those of you who disliked Daschle and now dislike Reid...
Please explain exactly what it is that you think the Minority Leader does?

And for simplicity's sake, enumerate.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 06:06 PM
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17. Who knew it was spelled milquetoast?
Is that French?

He has something to say, but does it quietly.
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skjpm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 06:21 PM
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18. It's a reference to Caspar Milquetoast
The character that started it all. He's in some book somewhere.

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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:52 PM
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21. Let's not provide a reason or rationale for that opinion or anything
I don't know if you saw him on meet the press or not but I thought he did very well and so did many others. He did a great job of reminding Russert that the President doesn't have the right to appoint whoever he chooses to the Supreme Court because the Senate has a constitutional mandate.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:55 PM
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22. you mean milquetoasts say this about clarence thomas
Edited on Sun Dec-05-04 09:58 PM by JohnKleeb
Reid told NBC's "Meet the Press": "I think that he has been an embarrassment to the Supreme Court. No, actually I think they did all right. He's not perfect but the guy isn't nearly as bad as all you want to make him out to be. Pro-life doesn't equal dem? while not pro life personally, I disagree, Bob Casey Sr was governor of pennyslvania and quite a progressive dem but he opposed abortion, he was still quite progressive on most other issues though.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:00 AM
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26. What's the difference between words and deeds?
Daschle used to 'talk tough' too...but then turned around and rubber-stamped most of the Bush* agenda.

I expect the same thing from Reid...enough tough words to keep Dems happy but not enough to get anything done as an OPPOSITION PARTY.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:47 AM
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27. I thought Reid was very effective on MTP.
He couldn't have been any more critical, but he did it in a reserved way.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 10:13 AM
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28. These guys have their minds made up.
Forget it. No matter how effective Reid was yesterday, the kneejerk brigade's opinion of him is set.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 10:20 AM
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29. You are extremely wrong, imho. Sen. Reid is awesome.
Edited on Mon Dec-06-04 10:22 AM by w4rma
I just hope that he doesn't change to try to suit whatever it is you want out of him, because I don't think you know what you want from him.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 10:22 AM
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30. Justice Thomas under attack from Reid
Washington, DC, Dec. 6 (UPI) -- New Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid says U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas is an "embarrassment" and should not be considered for chief justice.

Speaking on NBC's "Meet the Press," the Nevada Democrat minced no words when asked about Thomas being a possible replacement for Chief Justice William Rehnquist.

"I think that he (Thomas) has been an embarrassment to the Supreme Court," Reid said. "I think that his opinions are poorly written. I just don't think that he's done a good job as a Supreme Court justice."

Rehnquist announced he has thyroid cancer, which triggered speculation about his replacement.

more: http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20041206-074325-4139r.htm
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 10:32 AM
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31. Who would you have liked to see in that position and why?
Yesterday was the first time I actually saw Reid and really liked what I saw. He wasn't afraid to speak his mind and be controversial. Yet he did it without being contentious and had no problem staying on message. This is exactly what I want to see in a Dem Minority leader. Who would do better?

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