has anyone seen Lawrence O'Donnell since 10/22?

[grasswire]

He's disappeared from MSNBC, I think, after his gratifying but perhaps career ending spot on Scarborough on 10/22 when he called Swifty O'Neill a liar nearly 50 times.

Have there been any sightings? Do we need to write MSNBC?

[autorank]

1. He's the same place Col. David Hackworth is, off the corporate air.

I think O'Donnell has earned a place in history. He was the first person on corporate media to tell the truth, shout it from the rooftops so to speak. I remember when Hackworth referred to some finance show weasel as a 'chicken hawk' on CNBC. Never saw him again on corporate media. Tut, tut, don't tell the truth and, especially, don't tell it too loud with too much passion.

A big "Fuck Off" to the Corporate Media.

[kentuck]

2. And Julianne Malveaux....

When was the last time you saw her on TV??

[whalerider55]

4. and howdy doody

haven't seen that little wooden repug since the early sixties.

whalerider55

[autorank]

30. Good point on Malveaux...also the inimitable "doody" guy.

My wife was actually removed from the "Howdy Doody" set for throwing a tantrum when she was 7. She HASN'T been on television since, either! Ah, the Corporate Media (not 'main stream', not 'liberal'...it's Corporate Media)

[jamboi]

33. I liked Lawrence! We should hire him to anchor the new liberal Fox equiva

lent.

[The Wielding Truth]

39. That would be nice.

[Catherine Vincent]

17. I didn't care for Hackworth that much but I noticed

that the networks had him on more when Clinton was in office.

[autorank]

31. You would have changed your mind if you heard him on Iraq.

cat_girl25, He was opposed to the war and said so in no uncertain terms. Corporate Media can't handle that. Check out his site and click on "Calling General Abazaid." You'll love it.

http://www.hackworth.com/

This guy is kicking ass and taking names.

PS. Are there actually 'cat_girl's 1-24?

[OldLeftieLawyer]

3. He was brilliant that day, wasn't he?

I think he was the best thing I've ever seen on TV. So, I wrote to MSNBC and told them he was wonderful and he should have his own show. Never heard back from them. I was shocked. Shocked, I tell you.

Of course he's disappeared. His honesty and fearlessness scared the corporate suckasses.

This is why I quit watching TV.

Except for the Dylan interview tonight on "Sixty Minutes."

Which was great.

[IndianaGreen]

25. He acted like an asshole, just like Paula Zahn did earlier

I didn't care when Paula Zahn berated and interrupted Hafiz al-Mirazi, Al-Jazeera's Washington Bureau Chief, shortly after WTC attack when he dared to link the 9/11 attacks to US foreign policy in the Middle East.

Lawrence O'Donnell gave the same idiotic performance as Zahn, all the while presenting himself as a MSNBC analyst when in fact he was clearly partisan. What O'Donnell should have done is what Keith Olbermann does which is to point out inconsistencies in the claims made by his guest. Berating and abusing the person being interview is the sort fascist tactics that Bill O'Reilly likes to indulge in. That's not a trait that I am about to endorse regardless of the person doing it.

[jamboi]

34. He called a spade a spade.Oneil is a liar.Pat Buchanan didn't challenge JO

so LO'D did. Oneil is outrageous.

[blackangrydem]

35. Zahn was the interviewer, O'Donnell was not

O'Donnell and O'Neil were representing opposing viewpoints. Pat Buchanan was the host/moderator. Debates often become heated, Buchanan should have done a better job as moderator once O'Donnell began to rant. That was his responsibility.

[IndianaGreen]

37. O'Donnell would have been effective had he not ranted and raved

His role was that of MSNBC analyst, a far cry from being an advocate against O'Neil. O'Donnell hurt no one but himself, and by resorting to insults he failed to rebut O'Neil's bullshit.

[formernaderite]

44. Agreed...as much as I had empathy for what he felt....

..it was lost in his unprofessional behavior. I think it actually hurt his message.

[zann725]

29. I also wrote MSNBC applauding his 'honesty.' Never heard back.

Though I kept re-playing that segment. It was soooo cathartic to watch. And come to think of it, even though O'Donnell was 'canned'... the networks news shows really seemed to 'back off' after that with the Swiftboat lie story.

[ebayfool]

32. I wrote MSNBC as well. I don't care if it was 'out of line', ...

I was friggin' thrilled to just hear somebody, ANYBODY, finally say the 'L' word! Danced all over the house laughing & crying, very undignified for a decorous grammy! I decided on the spot that O'Donnell was the most honest man in America - gawd, I love him! (in a dignified, decorous, grammy sorta way, course)

[CBHagman]

5. He was on The McLaughlin Group post-election.

He wasn't taking any prisoners, either.

[moondust]

15. I saw that.

And remember him saying that if those gay marriage amendments had not been on those ballots John Kerry would be the new Prez.

[IndianaGreen]

27. And the Dem ticket should have supported full civil rights for gays!

That's means marriage equality with heteros!

By not fighting for principle, Kerry-Edwards surrendered the issue to the GOP, just like they did on the war in Iraq.

[Leilani]

19. I enjoy O'Donnell on the McLaughlin Group.

I've seen him post-election, but not in the last few weeks.

[peekaloo]

21. but he hasn't been back since.

He was pissed.

I miss him on that panel......poor Eleanor.

[Generator]

6. Oh my-I haven't seen him keep me posted

I no longer watch Hardlies or any of that-but he was on the Mcglouhin group on PBS-I haven't seen him there.

The media in this country is a joke.

[KoKo]

7. They must have been "Tombstoned." (n/t)

[grasswire]

8. I didn't even see much..

...fuss in the media gossip. Usually there will be some discussion of the "sins" of someone who's in trouble for speaking too freely. Don't recall seeing Mastah Kurtz chat about this episode. Nor FOX's News Watch.

[tsuki]

9. So the Chicken Noodle Network bounced O'Donnell, but kept

The Traitor? I'm shocked, I tell you. Shocked.

[Pirate Smile]

10. It was on MSNBC.

:)

[dogman]

11. He might be with that therapy group in Florida.

Still screaming liar! liar! I could certainly sympathize. Imagine sitting with all those assholes on the show.

[Pukin Dog]

12. Disgraceful

Lawrence O'Donnell, should be fired from MSNBC. His performance was a disgrace. Instead of using facts to challenge O'Neill, he crassly resorted to name-calling. He hurt the cause because viewers probably believed that there were no facts to dispute the "Swifties." He also gave further ammunition to the charge that liberals do not agree in free speech unless you agree with them. I was appalled.

[dogman]

13. Hold the RW pukes to your standard and we have a deal.

They do the same and lie outright.

[JI7]

14. the facts HAVE been used but the ignore it which is WHY

O'Donnell lost it.

the media whores and right wingers ignore the fucking facts.

[CatWoman]

16. speaking of pukin'

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[high density]

18. Interesting first post

What Lawrence O'Donnell did is nothing worse than what I've seen Sean Hannity do. Was it the perfect response? No, but it was needed after corporate media gave John O'Neill a full month to attack John Kerry with lies. Even once it was completely clear that he and his buddies were lying, corporate media continued to have him on shows right up until the election.

[kentuck]

20. The Kerry campaign should have called him a "liar"....

He did no thave one claim that was backed up by the documents. Anybody else would have been kicked ut on their ear but O'Neil got to spew his partisan right-wing bullshi for a whole month w/o a response.

[high density]

22. I agree

Shrum and Cahill were assuming that the press would do some fact checking on the issue. Not surprisingly, that didn't happen because the press was waiting for Kerry to issue a sound bite. Later we learned that Kerry wanted to respond directly but he was advised against doing so. Outside of a few op-ed pieces on Kerry's side from people who really knew what happened, it seems the only major piece of fact checking came from "Nightline." This "Nightline" piece got little, if any, air time after its initial broadcast, and it was far too late to make a difference anyway.

I'll never understand why the Kerry campaign didn't wise up and respond after the first few days. Shrum and Cahill should have been well aware that the contemporary TV media doesn't act as a filter for the truth, they just air "both sides" and let the idiot masses decide who they want to believe. Without Kerry talking, the only side being represented was the one of the Swift Boat F--ks.

[Poppyseedman]

36. The first word in your paragraph sums up nicely why Kerry lost

"Shrum"

Kerry could have won the election. Speech writers like Shrum should stick to what they do best.

Speaking of the media, your second paragraph is spot on.

[CBHagman]

41. To be fair, the press DID do some fact-checking.

The Washington Post (of which I am no fan) ran at least one front-page article about what really happened in Vietnam, and the accounts generally supported Kerry and of course the Navy's decision to award him the various medals.

The Post also ran an article on how one of the people (if I may call them that) in the Swift Boat attack ads was an advisor on the Bush campaign. In addition, the profiled that crazy officer (was it Roy Hoffman? I forget) who helped start all this. The article wasn't particularly sympathetic.

The New York Times did an actual chart showing the Bush-Rove links to the Swift Boat attack group.

Of course, all that is the kind of stuff we at DU might read (I said might). Meanwhile, the pieces of human filth like O'Neill were on the airwaves 24/7, and gullible guys who buy the macho fantasies put out by the GOP were snapping up copies of "Unfit for Command." So the power of the SBVFT grew.

I'll tell you this: The SBVFT are planning to stick around and harrass Kerry further. They said as much to a reporter for The Hill newspaper in DC. We have got to make sure that these whoreson liars do not get away with this dishonor a second time. How do we marginalize/discredit this bunch? Suggestions?

As for John O'Neill, hanging, drawing and quartering is a good deal too gentle a fate for him. He's probably going to share Nixon's cell in the afterlife.

[IndianaGreen]

28. There is nothing stopping Kerry from suing them for slander

Why hasn't he? If he wants to run again, he better sue them.

[IndianaGreen]

26. It was the same thing as what Bill O'Reilly does

and equally inappropriate!

If you act like the repukes, you become the repukes!

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[vol5516]

38. implosion

I've not seen him anywhere since his psychotic break on Scarborough!!Ranting and raving and screaming doesn't make it, although if he was in Fl, we cpould have probably Baker Acted him!!!

[autorank]

40. Stop your whining! Check out our new spokesman.

Pictured above: The Inimitable Undertaker and Mankind, a Dem, roughing up The Rock, a Republic.

Makes O'Donnell look mild. I'm tired of seeing our people take crap from liars and try to be reasonable.

It's time to kick out the jams.

Corporate America controls the media and we get manufactured news.
Corporate America now controls the voting machines and we get manufactured elections.

[Catherine Vincent]

42. Autorank: Sorry for responding so late....

"He was opposed to the war and said so in no uncertain terms. Corporate Media can't handle that. Check out his site and click on "Calling General Abazaid." You'll love it."

Oh, I am sure he kicked ass. The reason I said I didn't care for him is because he criticized Clinton a lot (but maybe not that much). But that's okay, nothing wrong with criticism, at least he didn't trash the guy day in and day out. I just hate that he isn't on the tv a lot trashing Geedubya (who no doubt warrants the trashing) but I know it's not his fault.


"PS. Are there actually 'cat_girl's 1-24?"

It just may be....24 girls on DU that love cats but that is not why my id is cat_girl...cat is short for Catherine.:-)

[autorank]

43. Thank God! One less cat nut on DU! I'll remember "25."

Hey, who knows, if Gore's cable network gets up and running, they can give him a show. He was anti war from the start. Great thread!

CORPORATE AMERICA controls the media and we get MANUFACTURED NEWS.
CORPORATE AMERICA now controls the voting machines and we get MANUFACTURED ELECTIONS.