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ztn Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 06:49 PM
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A conservative's take on the "Liberal Media"...
A quote from a good article today at Consortium News

Despite the enduring myth of the “liberal media,” articulate liberals are the group least represented on American news shows. One of the results of this center-right imbalance was the U.S. press corps’ shortage of skepticism about George W. Bush’s Iraq War rationales, including false claims that Iraq possessed dangerous stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction.

As conservative columnist Paul Craig Roberts wrote in a post-election column, “There was a time when I could rant about the ‘liberal media’ with the best of them. But in recent years, I have puzzled over the precise location of the ‘liberal media.’

“Not so long ago, I would have identified the liberal media as the New York Times and Washington Post, CNN and the three TV networks, and National Public Radio. But both the Times and the Post fell for the Bush administration’s lies about WMD and supported the U.S. invasion of Iraq. On balance, CNN, the networks, and NPR have not made an issue of the Bush administration’s changing explanations for the invasion.”

read rest here:

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2004/120604.html
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 06:50 PM
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1. interesting....
Thanks! :)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 07:13 PM
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2. For an EXCELLENT take on what happened, I suggest David Brock's
(yes, THAT David Brock's) "The Republican Noise Machine."

Since he was part of said machine, he really knows the stuff.
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ztn Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:28 PM
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3. I've read it. Very good book.
great detail.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 09:39 AM
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20. Excellent book
The fact that Brock is a reformed wingnut just makes it all the more credible. Wasn't he the one who dreamed up that story about police officers pimping for Clinton when he was governor of Arkansas and then apologized for it (Arkansas Spectator) because it was nothing but trash?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 04:18 AM
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dpibel Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:05 AM
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5. Losing one's behind
I urge you, although it may cause you some sadness, to check the numbers for the big three nets against Faux. When you do, get back to me and tell me about losing behinds.

I assure you that you will be lonely here with your objective view that the major networks have a "liberal bend." (That's "bent" in English, but who's counting?)

Oddly, you seem to feel that Faux, although conservative (i.e., not unbiased) will somehow reel in those independent/swing voters who are pining for unbiased news. How's that work?

And does Faux give Republicans "a 'spanking'" when they need it, or does that somehow work differently, too?

If you had a coherent message, I wonder what it would be.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:49 AM
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10. Guess what....
Faux didn't even have a show in the top forty ratings for Cable TV ending the week of 11/28/2004....

They had a good representation leading up to the election bt afterward, zip oh..

O'Reilly made it into the top forty a couple of times since the election but ever since his attempted liaison with a former producer became public, he has fizzled....

The most Fox pulled down was about 3.5 million households. And that wasn't for a news show, that was for O'Reilly.....

On an average night last week, Dan Rather pulled down close to 6 million and CBS has the lowest rating...

ABC had 7.6 and NBC had 8.5

Adding that up, that's about 22 million for the networks and somewhere less than 3 million for fox.......

More people watch SpngeBob than watch any show on Fox......

More people watch reruns of Law and Order than any show on fox....

Just a little perspective, if you will.....
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:54 AM
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11. Spongebob is far more intellectual than Fox
:)
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:23 AM
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14. The most coherent message would be
"Bury me deep if you can, baby!"

c4550 has been tombstoned.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:32 AM
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6. HA HA, HA HA HA HA
WTF PLANET DO YOU LIVE ON???????????????????????
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:25 AM
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15. They don't live on DU no more.
unless they crawl out of the grave they dug for themselves and try all over again.
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:38 AM
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7. (Chuckle) Nice try. nm
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:37 AM
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8. "major networks do have a liberal bend..." Oh, YEAH!!!
Sorry, dude. :hi:
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Xenus Sister Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:45 AM
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9. Trying to unearth and report the truth does NOT equal "liberal bias"
In your world, suppressing bad news is "totally unbiased." Reporting anything that sheds any kind of a negative light on the Thief-In-Chief and his minions is "liberal bias."

Democracy is so on the way to being fucking dead because of that attitude.

The repukes won't rest easy until ALL truth is banished from the airwaves (and internet).
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:55 AM
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12. tombstoned
what a shock!
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:55 AM
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13. Oh dear...such total IGNORANCE.
Edited on Tue Dec-07-04 06:57 AM by LynnTheDem
Obviously you swallowed the Faux Moos bullshit about them being the #1 news channel. You also seem to believe the bullshit of a "liberal bend" existing.

I thought only rightwingnuts swallowed that bullshit.

Edit: Yep, only rightwingnuts swallow that bullshit. And that rightwignnut has gone bye-bye. :)
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:33 AM
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18. Wait a minute...you say that the media is 'losing their behinds' to FOX...
...news and then say that in order for them to remain competive...they have to be totally unbiased. Certainly you're not suggesting that Fox News is unbiased?

You're either very confused or you're pulling our collective legs.
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:28 AM
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16. the Corporate Media is socially liberal, fiscally conservative
The Corporate Media is NOT anti-abortion, nor anti-gay, and they do not promote religion. They are corporations, they are pro-wealthy, pro-"free trade" and pro-privatization and deregulation.

The Corporate Media are socially liberal, fiscally conservative. That's the reason we can look at them at point out their right-wing bias, and why the fundies can look at them and see liberals. If you think about it, it's a fantastic set up.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:47 AM
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17. Hmmmm...
"fiscally conservative"? You mean they spend like drunken sailors?

Our media, which MISINFORMED 70% of the population, is a "fantastic set-up"?

Yes if you're a rightwingnut goose-stepping bushbot.

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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:44 AM
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19. "fiscally conservative" is a code word
used by Republicans and DLC Democrats to mean "pro-corporate" and pro-"free trade", against regulation and the public sector.

"Our media, which MISINFORMED 70% of the population, is a "fantastic set-up"? Yes if you're a rightwingnut goose-stepping bushbot."

No, it's a fantastic setup if you want to divide Americans and keep them fighting each other - a diversion that Democrats seem more than happy to engage in.
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