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cidliz2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 11:56 AM
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Mancherian Candidate
I just saw the movie and it was awesome. It made me think that Bush as being a Mancerian Candidate with a chip gone awry.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 11:57 AM
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1. the orginal or the remake?
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cidliz2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:00 PM
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3. The remake
I was on a plane when I saw it and I was sitting at the edge of my seat. I want to get the DVD so that I can watch it whenever I want to. I never saw the original one, but it cannot be much better than the current one. It was truly fascinating and frighteningly enough not too far from the truth.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 11:58 AM
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2. Manchurian Global was sooooo Halliburton
I was disappointed that they so obviously meant for Meryl Streep to be Hillary-like, but what can you do.
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cidliz2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:02 PM
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4. I didn't find the Meryl Streep Character like Hillary at all
Streep's character was Ms. Gracious, artifical, cold blooded... I don't find Hillary possessing those characteristics at all. May Dole's wife, not Hillary though. She doesn't mince words, and she doesn't sugar coat everything.
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cidliz2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:03 PM
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6. Streep is a great actress, so if she tried to be like Hillary she really
missed the boat.
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:04 PM
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8. I read several interviews from Streep
that said she specifically modeled the character on someone, but that it definitely was not Hillary.
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cidliz2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:06 PM
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9. I would believe with her on that. Hillary is not as
smooth and falsely "charming" as this woman was.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:09 PM
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10. Meryl Streep actually was emulating Karen Hughes
Edited on Wed Dec-08-04 12:14 PM by nytemare
She said in an interview that the hair was a bit like Hillary, but the personality was all Hughes.

On edit: here is the link :)
http://www.cinecon.com/news.php?id=0407281
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:16 PM
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11. Wow, I didn't think of that.
But it makes a lot of sense.
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cidliz2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:16 PM
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12. Yep, that fits pretty darn good, although even Hughs isn't as
sugary sweet or whatever you want to call it as Streep was in the movie, but the cold hearted lying power hungry psycho fits Hughs like a glove.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:02 PM
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5. If you saw the 2004 version, go rent the original.
much better, in my opinion.
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cidliz2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:03 PM
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7. Who was in the original?
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:20 PM
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13. Frank Sinatra and Angela Lansbury
and some other minor actors of the time.

Seriously, Frank does some great acting in this film
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cidliz2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:23 PM
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15. Thank you, I will have to rent it
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:21 PM
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14. Frank Sinatra, Laurence Harvey, Angela Lansbury, Janet Leigh.
Much better than the remake. Much tougher, and more frightening.
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cidliz2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:23 PM
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16. Laurence Harvey....does he by chance play the "Candidate"?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:29 PM
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17. Yep. Here's a review from allmovie.com:
A brilliant Cold War satire, The Manchurian Candidate is a chilling commentary on political power, international conspiracy, and the gullibility of the American people. A paean to paranoia, it was ahead of its time yet reflected the tensions of its era, and modern-day viewers can use it as a guide to the political and moral climate of the early years of Cold War America. One doesn't have to look hard to find a thinly veiled Senator Joseph McCarthy in zealous anti-Communist Senator Iselin or fears of female dominance in Angela Lansbury's megalomaniacal Mrs. Iselin. In addition to its status as one of the great political satires, The Manchurian Candidate remains a classic for its sharp, often hilarious script, for John Frankenheimer's fine-tuned direction, and for its uniformly excellent performances. Though Laurence Harvey, Frank Sinatra, and Janet Leigh are all thoroughly effective, and James Gregory is pricelessly stupid as Senator Iselin, the film belongs to Lansbury. Her Mrs. Iselin remains one of the screen's most terrifying maternal presences, a queen bee intent on clearing the hive of anyone who stands in her way. Like her clueless husband, the audience can only react dumbly to her, marveling at her single-minded rampage towards world domination. Unavailable for years due to a dispute between Sinatra and United Artists, The Manchurian Candidate is a film that should not be missed. Equal parts satire, political thriller, sly commentary, and history lesson, it has become a terrifying postcard from a time that should not be forgotten. -- Rebecca Flint
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