Big Al is representing the left on Crossfire.

[blackangrydem]

This is not helping the cause.

[Connie_Corleone]

1. Al who? No TV.

[Cuban_Liberal]

2. The Rev. Sharpton. n/t

[blackangrydem]

3. Sharpton

[hiley]

4. Why

what did he say ?

[blackangrydem]

7. Not what he is saying, as a matter of fact, he is giving

Novak all he can handle. I just don't think he will bring many red-voters to the polls for the Democratic party. In fact, I think he'll drive them away or to the other side.

[mattclearing]

23. We don't want them.

"Hey, ignorant Bush voters, haters of diplomacy, taxes, and common sense, please come vote for us."

Can we stop it with the hand-wringing already? Chances are we didn't lose the election, and even if we did, we didn't lose enough to morph into accomodating psuedo-Republicans.

Stop the madness.

[SemperEadem]

45. well, that's pretty much a given

if they're red, they aren't thinking about being blue while 'their side' is winning. Leave 'em be... it won't be until their boy's policies derail that which they've come to feel entitled to having that they begin to think beyond their own ignorance.

[Protagoras]

46. What is it about him that will drive them there?

His ideas? His knowledge of the Bible? Oh yeah, he's not as pale as their idol Falwell. Well guess what....they weren't coming over anyway so if they can't deal with it when Al speaks truth to them...so be it.

[noonwitch]

5. Who's on the right? Bow-tie boy or douchebag for liberty?

Either way, Al's a better and more entertaining speaker.

[hiley]

10. Novak

the Nazi

[Q]

6. What 'cause' is that?

Could you expound?

He certainly doesn't help the cause of the RWingers. He kicks their asses every time.

[blackangrydem]

8. The cause of getting elected.

[Q]

11. Is he running for office? I thought the election was over?

Are you sure you just don't have a 'thing' against him?

[blackangrydem]

24. I'm not speaking of his election, but that of democrats in general.

[tkmorris]

9. I've never met an actual Dem who thinks that......

Al Sharpton somehow "embarasses" us. Or hurts us in any way. Personally I think he's fantastic. Why do you not like him?

[hiley]

12. Al Sharpton

is Great ! Remember his speech at the Convention.

[Melodybe]

13. Al's Speech at the DNC was one of the most beautiful and moving speeches

I've ever seen.

Sorry you don't like it when he kicks repub ass.

[hiley]

20. NO I loved his speech

at the Convention. Taped it and watched several times.

[canadianbeaver]

35. That speech made me cry........

I felt what he was saying and wished we had speakers like that up in Canada....no one here has made me feel the way Al did when he spoke at the convention

[southpaw]

14. I like him...

I also like Jesse Jackson...

But, realistically, neither appeal to swing voters because they are both seen as shit-stirrer-uppers or worse, publicity whores.

I disagree, but living in Alabama, I know the way the rank and file react to the mere mention of Sharpton or Jackson. They could hardly do worse if they were Hillary Clinton.

[blackangrydem]

22. My point exactly.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

25. The "rank and file":

Is that another name for D's who pull R levers, because they have problems with strong black and female figures?

[Q]

29. Democrats shouldn't be looking to motivate the swing voters...

...they need people like Sharpton who will appeal to Democrats.

This swing voter nonsense is an invention to keep Dem candidates from concentrating on their own base.

[blackangrydem]

16. Never said I didn't like him. Do you think his speech at the

convention or his church appearances with Kerry telling blacks to ignore the gay marriage issue helped or hurt our chances of winning?

[mattclearing]

26. Helped our chances.

Ignoring the gay marriage issue is a duty to anyone who actually cares about their country.

Divisive wedge issues used to distract us from the business of governing need to be exposed and derided for the pox on Democracy that they are.

I'll take someone that stands up to these fringe issues' domination of our national agenda anyday.

[Dr.Phool]

18. The evil that Al Doeth

Well, this just came in the Village Voice.



http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0449/barrett.php

[ooglymoogly]

33. who the hell gives two flying fks

about gossipy stories about his private life. sharpton calls em like he sees em. he is a breath of fresh air and thats good enough for me. i would vote for him in just about any office he would care to run in.

[Radical Activist]

15. He's doing a great job

very effective

[Pathwalker]

17. Yeah, SO MANY people watch it.

Not. He may only be preaching to the choir, but he's a wondeful preacher!
And his speech at the Convention was one of my favorites, too.

[JI7]

19. i love Al Sharpton

and he does a lot in helping "the cause". he did a lot to support Kerry and other Democrats during the election.

[blackangrydem]

21. The democrat's percentage of the black vote went down in 04

That is our most loyal constituency. That is not a good trend.

[JI7]

27. it went down about 2 percent from 2000 and it's still higher than 1996

and before.

much of the reason is because of religious conservative blacks who voted for bush based on things like gay rights. the same can be said about jews and other groups. they are the more conservative leaning types who would never have voted for democrats anyways. the only difference is they went out and voted for bush rather than stay home.

[blackangrydem]

31. But it did go down.

[mattclearing]

28. Are you basing that...

...on the "flawed" exit polling, the fraudulent vote totals, or the disenfranchised people who waited in line for hours without voting?

[blackangrydem]

30. So you think those numbers are wrong? We didn't lose black

voters this time? I would like to think you're right, but I don't think you are.

[mattclearing]

40. I'm just saying that

All of those numbers are questionable. And stupid, gullible people come in all sizes, shapes and colors. Maybe if we spent more time trying to educate the people and less trying to pander to them, we wouldn't have this problem.

[Q]

32. Do you read the Black Commentator?

They seem to think that it's the DLC Agenda that's losing our 'most loyal' constituency.

[blackangrydem]

34. Well Al Gore and Bill Clinton were both DLC

and they got a higher percentage of the black vote than did Kerry.

[Q]

36. Clinton IS the DLC...

...and Gore told them to take a hike.

The reason I asked if you read the BC is that they don't have a very high opinion of Clinton OR the DLC. They believe they were sold out.

[JI7]

39. that's not true

Kerry got a higher percentage than Clinton did.

[Kahuna]

47. Blame, bribery in the form of "faith based initiatives." Not Al Sharpton..

I don't think any said that they didn't vote for Kerry because of Al Sharpton. As a matter of fact, on the heels of the Dem primaries, right after Al Sharpton had received a lot of exposure during the debates, Kerry polled higher than he did afterwards. So, your argument on its face seems to be incoherent.

[DistressedAmerican]

37. It is embarrassing

John Stewart was completely correct when he called those guys "partisan hacks" and Tucker Carlson a "dick". Sharpton's appearance on the show should embarrass all Democrats worse that his stint on reality TV.

Especially when the story leading in is the new personal life allegations, which he then spends his time defending. Come on.

Don't get me wrong. I Like the guy. I just think it is below him to support such overt spin.

Any chance he will call Larry King the "Crypt Keeper" to his face tonight? Then he really would be living my dream.

[info being]

38. He sure helps my cause. eom

[catbert836]

41. I like him

He and Dean were the only ones who told it like it was during the primaries.

[DistressedAmerican]

42. Don't all of you who like him

think that openly endorsing the kind of misinformation produced by Crossfire is a disservice to his record, convention speech and other accomplishments?

These guys are the bottom of the barrel. When Novack was out recently, the brought in G. Gordon Liddy as a fill in. Is Sharpton just the left wing's G. Gordon Liddy now?

p.s. Anyone know what the "G" Stands for?

[mattclearing]

43. "God-Damned"

eom

[welshTerrier2]

44. is that Barack's brother ?? (n/t)

[eridani]

48. We all know that Al and Jesse have 'issues' with each other

I like Al as a public speaker (easily the best of all the candidates last year), but the dude can't organize his way out of a paper bag. Jesse organized beyond his base in the 80s, and organized hard. The Rainbow Coalition really was a rainbow.