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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 11:01 PM
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Poll question: Will you support the same Presidential primary candidate in '08?
Assuming the Democratic presidential primary candidate you supported in '04 were to run again in '08 how likely are you to support that same person? Would you consider supporting someone else this time? Let's assume the candidate you supported last time is running again along with some new faces that didn't run in '04. I'm wondering how many people are flexible on this point and how many are ready to start campaigning for '08.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 11:04 PM
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1. I'M SUPPORTING CLARK...AGAIN
He rocks, he's intelligent, he has credibility, and he's ready to kick some serious ass.

I want Clark and DNC Dean to become best friends. Together they can outsmart and outfight any dozen Republicans.

It will be a sight to see!

CORPORATE AMERICA controls the media and we get MANUFACTURED NEWS.
CORPORATE AMERICA now controls the voting machines and we get MANUFACTURED ELECTIONS.

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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 12:42 AM
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11. Nomination seconded!
:toast:
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cyn2 Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 09:16 AM
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26. I'll second your second for Clark! n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 02:20 PM
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34. I'll see your two, and raise you one....
RED DOG DEMOCRAT ...
Hope he runs!

Clark won't take any Sh*t, AND...
will kick ass in Red States


presenting

WES CLARK
"RED DOG" DEMOCRAT
IN '08


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cosmokramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 07:27 PM
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51. I'll see your one, and I'll raise you a sure VICTORY for the Dems!
Clark '08 !
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RUDUing2 Donating Member (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 02:42 PM
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37. I will be backing Clark again as well.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 11:06 PM
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2. This is very unlikely to happen.
A lot can change in four years, and if there's anything wrong with the Democratic party, it's an unwillingness to adapt to a changing environment.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 11:13 PM
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4. I think being open to change is a good idea
I'm waiting to see what happens personally.

Since I have the Dean and Clark people mad at me today I thought I would use this opportunity to anger someone other group. Maybe I'll put down Kerry or Gephardt in my next post.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 11:53 PM
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7. Since you seem to enjoy getting groups mad,
who did you support in the primaries?
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 11:57 PM
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9. Not so much that I enjoy getting people mad
but I do enjoy a good unrestrained debate.
I supported Kucinich. I would like to see if someone with a similar message runs in '08 that might run a better campaign and have a better shot at winning.
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cdp Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 12:46 AM
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12. Did you think someone like Kucinich...
could get elected? I am sure you have answered this question before, but I'd like to hear what you have to say. I am all for debates.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:20 AM
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15. In terms of issues, yes
I think we need an economic populist. I think we need someone who will get up there and say losing more jobs to free trade is a bad thing and we need to do something real about it. I think someone who stands for what Dennis stands for has a great shot at getting elected because he could change the debate. He has an inspiring vision.

Kucinich's problem is not issues. He had two campaign managers during his run for President and neither of them had ever worked on a political campaign before. I'm not convinced he would make a good administrator and even though the corporate media was against him from day one, many of the problems that campaign faced can be traced back to the fact that the campaign was poorly run.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 11:55 PM
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8. HA!
I can't blame you!
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:41 PM
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31. I'm backing Dennis for sure in 2008
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:51 PM
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44. Do you think he'll run again?
I haven't asked him or spoken to anyone who has.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 11:08 PM
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3. Without an electoral system I can trust,
why support any candidate? I've voted in every election since I was of voting age, but if the votes don't count, and controllers are allowed to fix the poll anyway they desire, then what's the point of playing a rigged game?

It would be like banging your head against a brick wall, and never stopping even when it began to hurt.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 11:29 PM
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5. That's so positive
it makes me want to crawl under a rock and die. Sheesh.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 02:33 PM
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35. I'm sure they are glad to hear you say that...
it is just the kind of defeatism they want to see in the Dem's. I think the bastards stole it too. May I suggest you support the guy pushing the hardest to fix it? If you just throw up your hands, the Bush Terrorists Win!

Me, a Clarkie but open to other options. However, I will say right here shame on everyone that didn't see the light and support Wes for this round!
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 09:35 PM
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52. Negativism only defeats us
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 11:41 PM
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6. i'm currently registered as indy, and voted for kucinich in the ca primary
when I move I am registering as a Green, but if DK makes another go I will proudly vote for him again.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 12:13 AM
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10. If Howard Dean runs again, I am with him 100%
If not, then I hope someone else as worthy is running. Either way I will not support anymore lukewarm half-assed appeasement candidates, even in the general election.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 12:54 AM
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13. Kerry, hell no. Clark, maybe...
These were my top two choices in the primary this time around. No offense to Kerry, but I would not support another go for him, for many reasons. Clark, it depends on who else is running. If a senator that I really really like say Russ Feingold, Dick Durbin, or Barbara Boxer were to get into the race (not too likely to happen), then I'd have to get behind them.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:15 AM
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14. OK, Hippo_Tron, how about this.
I get you the original of that fake $29 million Madsen check and you go from "maybe..." to "definitely" Clark. I just looked at my new monogrammed bracelet-thing and asked myself WWEED (What Would Edwin Edwards Do...my DEM hero of all time for beating that creepy Klansman).

CORPORATE AMERICA controls the media and we get MANUFACTURED NEWS.
CORPORATE AMERICA now controls the voting machines and we get MANUFACTURED ELECTIONS.

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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:54 AM
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18. Why do all of the great politicians have to be corrupt?
Besides the fact that he was a crook, Edwin Edwards was one of the best Governors that Louisiana ever had. Certainly better than Kathleen DINO Blanco.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 02:04 AM
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19. Don't know the answer to that but he is in the hall of fame.
I caught his speech after he beat Duke. I'd love to get a copy of it. He said something like they had held the line in LA but America had to get ready for what the Republicans were becoming. He was alone and he looked rattled (maybe it was the 40% Duke vote). An amazing moment of truth that you can only get on television. I hope he's out of jail. That was an outrage. I figure beating Duke was worth a real "Get Out of Jail Free" card.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:30 AM
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16. First the DNC needs to grow some brass ones
....something they desperately need. They don't know how to fight, which was very evident with Kerry. Dean has that fight, but as long as corp US has control over the media, Dean's "yeah" shout will hang over his head 'till he croaks. I loved Kucinich's realism - he proved that in ohio, but this country is so vain, they'll never elect someone that has more prominent elf ears than B*sh. I'm just gonna bide my time, watch who votes for what, listen to who bitches the loudest and see who's trying the hardest - that's who I'll support!
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DjTj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:44 AM
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17. If Edwards is running again, I will support him. (nt)
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 02:41 AM
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20. Isn't anyone going to support Sharpton again?
just asking
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cyn2 Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 09:17 AM
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27. Did anyone support Sharpton last time? n/t
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 12:34 PM
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29. LOL ok not really.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 07:15 AM
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21. While I will support Dean if he runs (100%)
I will try to listen to other candidates, especially the new faces.
I've been ready support another Dean run since he got derailed in Iowa.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 07:24 AM
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22. I will wait and see who does what
Edited on Thu Dec-09-04 07:24 AM by JNelson6563
between now and then. If someone does nothing but feather their own nest then no support here. If someone's out there hauling ass for the cause, standing up to the fascist regime and rallying the Dems, they have my support.

We shall see who does what.

Julie
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 07:36 AM
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23. Events will dictate who will be the best to run in '08.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 08:53 AM
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24. If Dennis runs again, he has my backing, but if not and if
there are no progressives in the offering, I'll probably just go back to voting Green.

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Would Jesus love a liberal? You bet!
http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 12:33 PM
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28. Would Dick Durbin do it for you?
I supported Dennis last time. Durbin has very similar ideals and I think would make a better candidate in many ways.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:49 PM
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32. I'll back Durbin, Dean, whoever is a progressive...but if there isn't
one I won't waste my time and energy.

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Would Jesus love a liberal? You bet!
http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 09:00 AM
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25. Clark again. Voting for noone who s* on my voting rights anymore
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:20 PM
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30. Oh come on
I know there are more than 12 Dean and Clark diehards here. Did I make them all so mad that they won't vote in the poll?
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 06:32 PM
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47. You might number me among the "Dean Diehards"
But I'm not committing myself for 2008 yet. It's a long time in the future.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:57 PM
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33. Wesley Clark!!!
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 02:41 PM
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36. Disqualify the losers...
I never stop being amazed at folks will support a looser twice.

In my book, you get the nomination and loose, you will never be a viable option again.

Not that Gephardt ever went to the big show but, he is a perfect example. Just kept running and running like he wasn't going to get spanked for the 4th time in a row.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:33 PM
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38. Does that include Edwards
in your eyes? It seemed like Edwards was forced to abandon his central Two Americas message and the I would guess that if Edwards had been at the top of the topic he would have made a stronger effort in the south than Kerry did.
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demolifer2004 Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:19 PM
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39. Lieberman!
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:23 PM
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40. seriously?
Edited on Thu Dec-09-04 05:23 PM by Radical Activist
I mean, are you kidding or no? Do you think he might run?
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demolifer2004 Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:25 PM
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41. yeah, serious
I think he has the best chance to put us back in the White House. I want to win, whatever it takes. I don't agree with 100% of his ideas, but I can say the same about every other potential candidate, too.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:50 PM
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43. Well Ok then
obviously not a lot of people here agree with you but that happens. One thing I always respected about Lieberman is that he always stood up for what he believes in. He didn't try to sound more liberal for the primary. He got booed more than any other candidate because he said things that liberal audiences didn't like, but he always tried to make a strong case for his views instead of changing or glossing over his record. That's more than I can say for some of the others who ran.
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BradM Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 06:32 PM
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48. Me too
I would have voted for Joe Lieberman myself! I've always liked him.

http://www.topicsoftheday.com/
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Spyro Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:36 PM
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42. What about Biden?
Rumor is that he's planning on making a bid in '08.

Forget who might have a chance, if you could vote for ANYONE (that's involved in politics now that is) for president, who would you vote for?
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 06:24 PM
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46. Biden didn't run in '04
so that's a separate question, but I'm not a big Biden fan anyway.

If I could automatically make anyone I want President it would probably be Dick Durbin, John Lewis or Dennis Kucinich.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:58 PM
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45. Depends who is running
Edited on Thu Dec-09-04 05:58 PM by jpgray
If Dennis runs again, I'll support him again.
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The Flaming Red Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 06:54 PM
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49. You guys are going to go and pretend to vote again?
now that is tin foil hat optimism.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 06:57 PM
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50. There are a lot of people
already campaigning for their '04 candidate to run again in '08. I'm just curious about how many have already made up their mind. There's nothing tinfoil hat about that.
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