My favorite coincidence regarding the takeover of the US- what's yours?

[donhakman]

My favorite coincidence was the 100 ft. structural reinforcement(new steel, stone and blast proof windows) of the Pentagon at the precise location where an impact and explosion occured less than 2 years later on 9-11.

[tanyev]

1. Yeah, that's a good one.

Especially when added to the skillful flying maneuvers executed to hit that location--carried out by an inexperienced pilot.

[donhakman]

2. The favorite response of blockheads to such issues...

"tin foil hats"

May the blockheads all get benign microwave induced brain tumors from thier cell phone.

tsk tsk - if only they had used a tin foil hat

[tanyev]

3. I'm proud of my tin foil hat!

It is tres chic. :tinfoilhat:

[donhakman]

4. Read today at Rense

In 1989 - there were plans to erect scaffolding and disassemble the WTC towers and rebuild them. Cost projection was around $5.6 billion. One of the architects shows up to work one day and the MIB's were there - had confiscated all of the plans, specs, details, etc for WTC. They even confiscated their office cubicles and had tape on the floor outlining where they went.

Reason - the exterior cast aluminum WTC panels had been directly connected to the steel superstructure of the building, thus causing galvanic corrosion. In short, the "life cycle" of the WTC was not 200 - 300 years, more like 30 years or so.

The exterior skin of the building - in being aluminum and connected directly to the super structure - was making the building weaker every day.

That could explain why there appears to be explosives set only about every 25 floors. Once the failure started, the brittleness of welds, rivets, bolts, etc would fail much easier as the loads became progressively greater on the way down.

That same process would also explain why the concrete was "powderized" over time because electrolytic processes weaken concrete too by "debonding" the Portland that causes concrete to bond in the first place. However, bear in mind that the "concrete floors" were not load bearing reinforced concrete. They were supported by what was a weakening by the day superstructure and cross members.

There was a 1989 meeting and the folks at the architectural firm that had their office, records, plans and specs seized - were told that the $5.6 billion "take it down, rebuild it" project was cancelled and in about "10-12 years" they would "blow it up and start over". Consider that - and consider that NYC and the US Govt could not stand the global embarrassment of being so stupid or negligent that they did not consider the effects of galvanic corrosion on the superstructure. That is structural design 101 in architectural school and why they want architects to take physics and chemistry for Christ's sake. I did.

I am an architect by the way, quit practicing in 1988.

http://www.npl.co.uk/ncs/docs/the_electochemistry_of_corrosion_figures.p df

http://www.npl.co.uk/ncs/docs/the_electochemistry_of_corrosion.pdf

http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Aircraft/galvdefi.htm see bimetallic corrosion to get to the two links above

http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Landmarks/statue-saddle.htm

Guess what?

The fat lady HAS SUNG. You know, the one in New York Harbor with the torch of Liberty and Freedom held high.

I want to find the sick bastard that thought it would be a cute idea to have close to 3,000 in the building and use that as an excuse to go take on a whole new energy policy, war policy, and lining the pockets of just certain people.

I think a Statute of Liberty hanging for that person would be most appropriate.

best regards,

Karl W. B. Schwarz
President, Chief Executive Officer
Patmos Nanotechnologies, LLC

[itzamirakul]

9. Wow!

I won't pretend to understand everything that you wrote, but living here in NYC, I am one of those who does believe the so-called conspiracy theories regarding the destruction of the towers.

[RT Atlanta]

10. follow up

My brother was supposed to be in one of the towers the morning they came down. As it was, he was in that part of NYC for another meeting and he said that with his own ears he and many others heard what sounded like explosions going off all day long (could have been left over pockets of office materials going up underneath the rubble, but who really knows?).

[itzamirakul]

12. Thank God he wasn't there...

My daughter worked in the World Financial Center...the building that was connected to one of the towers by going through the Winter Garden.
It was not destroyed all though the all-glass Winter Garden was.
The company that she worked for sent them to other offices for a couple weeks and then, asap, they were sent back to the WFC building while the air was still polluted, etc. She continued to work in that building until this past July, when her department was outsourced to an overseas company. As you know, much later it was shown that the city government chose to hide the truth that they knew the air was unsafe to breath. The unmitigated greed involved in this whole thing is unbelievable.

If you are interested in the conspiracy theories you can go to www.jfkII.com. Or email at [e-mail]. They have DVDs and VHS tapes for sale for $5.00 that show "The Bush Connection. A thorough documented criminal indictment of George Herbert Walker Bush, establishing beyond a reasonable doubt, his guilt as a supervisor in the conspiracy to assassinate John Kennedy." I have no connection to this site but I did buy two DVDs for $10.00.

[ooglymoogly]

5. pricilla queen of the desert applauds your tinfoil hat

be proud, we may yet save the world

[tanyev]

6. LOL!

Loved that movie!

[ooglymoogly]

7. saw it last night wet the bed it was so funny and so brilliant

terrence stamp should have gotten an academy award.

[donhakman]

8. So should Rumsfeld

[donkeyotay]

11. My favorite coinkydink? Out of all to choose from?

That the regular-have-a-beer-with-him feller, mind-our-own-business, it's your money, Education President, uniter-not-a-divider, Compassionate Conservative turned out to be the Darth Vader, Planet of the Apes, Chimperor of the Universe.

It sure was a fortunate coincidence that Mr. I-don't-know-nothing about Foreign Policy had all those vulcans on board.

[Minstrel Boy]

13. Norad's live-fly simulation of multiple hijackings on the morning of 9/11,

along with the six or seven other concurrent drills, like the Pentagon's simulation of a plane hitting a government building.

What a stroke of, uh, bad luck.

[SpiralHawk]

14. My fav: US defense system unable to get it up

at all

on 9/11

despite being the most-expensive war machine on the planet.

BushCo needs to ease off the Halidol,
and try some kinda global Viagra.