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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 09:14 PM
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He lost an arm in Iraq; the Army wants money
http://www.recordonline.com/archive/2004/12/10/abandon1.htm

Middletown – He lost his arm serving his country in Iraq. Now this wounded soldier is being discharged from his company in Fort Hood, Texas, without enough gas money to get home. In fact, the Army says 27-year-old Spc. Robert Loria owes it close to $2,000, and confiscated his last paycheck.
"There's people in my unit right now – one of my team leaders over in Iraq with me, is doing everything he can to help me .... but it's looking bleak," Loria said by telephone from Fort Hood yesterday. "It's coming up on Christmas and I have no way of getting home."
Loria's expected discharge yesterday came a day after the public got a rare view of disgruntled soldiers in Kuwait peppering Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld with questions about their lack of adequate armor in Iraq. Like many soldiers wounded in Iraq, Loria's injuries were caused by a roadside bombing. It happened in February when his team from the 588th Battalion's Bravo Company was going to help evacuate an area in Baqubah, a town 40 miles north of Baghdad. A bomb had just ripped off another soldier's arm. Loria's Humvee drove into an ambush. When the second bomb exploded, it tore Loria's left hand and forearm off, split his femur in two and shot shrapnel through the left side of his body. Months later, he was still recuperating at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C., and just beginning to adjust to life without a hand, when he was released back to Fort Hood.

AFTER SEVERAL MORE MONTHS, the Army is releasing Loria. But "clearing Fort Hood," as the troops say, takes paperwork. Lots of it.
Loria thought he'd done it all, and was getting ready to collect $4,486 in final Army pay. Then he was hit with another bomb. The Army had another tally – of money it says Loria owed to his government. A Separation Pay Worksheet given to Loria showed the numbers: $2,408.33 for 10 months of family separation pay that the Army erroneously paid Loria after he'd returned stateside, as a patient at Walter Reed; $2,204.25 that Loria received for travel expenses from Fort Hood back to Walter Reed for a follow-up visit, after the travel paperwork submitted by Loria never reached the correct desk. And $310 for missing items on his returned equipment inventory list.
"There was stuff lost in transportation, others damaged in the accident," Loria said of the day he lost his hand. "When it went up the chain of command, the military denied coverage."
Including taxes, the amount Loria owed totaled $6,255.50. The last line on the worksheet subtracted that total from his final Army payout and found $1,768.81 "due us."

the rest is found at the link. I'm too pissed to add more.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 09:15 PM
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1. Here is a link to the story at truthout.org
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 09:16 PM
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2. ....
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 09:16 PM
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3. One of these guys should ask rummy about this one.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 09:17 PM
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4. WHOOPS! Thanks, Catwoman. I got it in an e-mail and didn't
see it elsewhere.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 09:18 PM
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7. !
:hi:
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 09:18 PM
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5. Sen. Clinton fixed things, correct?
n/t
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 09:18 PM
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6. The Good News...
Lawmakers Help Wounded Soldier Get Home
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Published: December 10, 2004

Filed at 5:00 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Spc. Robert Loria of Middletown, N.Y., lost his arm in Iraq, but instead of a farewell paycheck from the Army he got a bill for nearly $1,800. On Friday a platoon of New York lawmakers came to his rescue. Loria found himself stuck in Fort Hood in Texas this week when Army officials said he owed money for travel expenses and for lost equipment.

Rep. Maurice Hinchey and Sens. Charles Schumer and Hillary Rodham Clinton interceded on behalf of the 27-year-old veteran after his wife, Christine Loria, told the Times-Herald Record of Middletown about the problem.

Loria was wounded in February. But as he was about to leave the Army this month, officials told him he had been overpaid for his time as a patient at a military hospital in the Washington area, and said he still owed money for travel between the hospital and Fort Hood, as well as $310 for items not found in his returned equipment.

Instead of a check for nearly $4,500, Loria was told he had to pay nearly $1,800.

``Christmas is coming up, and we are severely overdrawn because of this,'' his wife said. ``It turned out his getting wounded wasn't the worst thing this year to happen -- this was.''

Clinton, Schumer, and Hinchey said Friday the Army had dropped the billing demands and would allow Loria to return home on leave before he is discharged.

Clinton's office said late Friday that Army officials were now looking at the cases of 19 other injured veterans who may have had payroll situations similar to Loria's.

She blamed Loria's problem on someone in the bureaucracy being unwilling to help him with paperwork the Army insisted upon.

The lawmakers, all Democrats, said Loria should be able to head home to New York in a day or two.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 09:26 PM
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8. The shows that the Army won't even support their own.
And this is the Army that used to advertise for you to be all you can be?
And then they charge you if you lose some of your own parts.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 09:27 PM
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9. What's not clear from the article...
...if is he'll still be behind in the game, so to speak.

The Army is wiping out his debt...but is he gonna get the Pay he's owed (against which they were gonna apply said debt.)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 10:16 PM
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11. "All Democrats"!
"The lawmakers, all Democrats, said Loria should be able to head home to New York in a day or two."

The Democrats helped out but the soldiers voted for more of bushgoons..oh the Irony!
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14. mcscajun
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 09:34 PM
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10. There's an update to this story...
but I can't access it. Maybe someone else can
and report back to us??? Thanks!
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Cookie wookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 12:35 AM
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12. I heard on Randi Rhodes today
that Clinton, Schumer etc PAID the debt, but that's not mentioned in the AP article.
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AirAmFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 01:14 AM
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13. Somebody ought to send this to Oprah as an idea for a show: LIMBLESS
soldiers, maimed in Iraq and destitute back home. There already are THOUSANDS of potential audience members ready to receive disabled-modified Durangos and other products manufacturers want to re-launch after bad press.

Of course, "defense" contractors and the White House would not like it very much. But let Oprah weigh those concerns on her own.
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