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rockydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 07:10 PM
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Could someone xplain to me how nannies can knock down
a nominee? I can't see it being such a big deal to disqualify someone from being an appointee.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 07:13 PM
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1. Kerik admitted to not paying payroll taxes.
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rockydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 07:13 PM
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2. so he knew - that would make a difference
I saw it as a thing where he just didn't know...
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 07:16 PM
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3. This shit is a cover for some bigger shit. You can bet the bank
Edited on Sat Dec-11-04 07:17 PM by xultar
on that. :evilgrin:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 07:20 PM
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6. Yes, you know that's right. Bob Novak just said it was least of worries.
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Truman01 Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 07:21 PM
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7. Our attorney general nominee before Reno was taken out with
this accussation. I can't think of her name now. Tax evasion is a big deal.

TC
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 07:32 PM
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13. Zoe Baird.
n/t
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:36 AM
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17. Bush appointee abandoned illegitimate child
Former New York City police chief Bernard Kerik, whom George W. Bush appointed to lead the Department of Homeland Security after Tom Ridge’s resignation, fathered an illegitimate daughter with a South Korean woman while serving on the peninsula in the 1970s, the Associated Press reported Dec. 2. Kerik abandoned the mother and 1-year-old when he returned to the United States in February 1976, and did not see them again until a few years ago, according to the Dec. 5 Korea Times. Kerik confessed to abandoning his child in his 2001 autobiography.

According to the Nov. 5 edition of Newsday, Kerik had reported for six months of duty in Iraq in 2002, yet returned to the United States after three months without explanation.

Kerik denounced domestic dissent of government policy in the Oct. 20, 2003 issue of Newsweek, saying, “political criticism is our enemies’ best friend.”

http://www.pulsetc.com/article.php?sid=1525


<snip> Kerik, the son of a prostitute who abandoned him when he was 4 years old, was a high school dropout who dabbled in petty crime before he straightened his life out by joining the Army.

In New York, he had a reputation as a hard-charging cop who sometimes bent the rules. After struggling financially as recently as five years ago, he became a multimillionaire through the sale of stock in security-related firms that rely heavily on government contracts. <snip>

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/politics/10395748.htm


Kerik's conduct in Saudi Arabia questioned
By John Mintz and Lucy Shackelford
The Washington Post

WASHINGTON — The autobiography of Bernard Kerik, President Bush's nominee to head the Department of Homeland Security, recounts a difficult time 20 years ago when he was expelled from Saudi Arabia amid a power struggle involving the head of a hospital complex where Kerik helped command a security staff.

In the book, Kerik described his discomfort at having to investigate employees' private lives but said it was necessary because of the Saudis' laws prohibiting drinking and mingling of the sexes in public. "It was challenging, negotiating such a closed, rigid system and trying to find justice in laws that, to an American, were unjust," he wrote. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1984, the book said, after an altercation with a Saudi secret-police official who was interrogating him.

Since he was nominated last week to be homeland security secretary, however, nine former employees of the hospital have said that Kerik and his colleagues were carrying out the private agenda of the hospital's administrator, Nizar Feteih, and that the surveillance was intended to control people's private affairs.

Feteih became embroiled in a scandal that centered in part on his use of the institution's security staff to track the private lives of several women with whom he was romantically involved, and men who came in contact with them, the former employees said. <snip>

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002112642_kerik08.html



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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 07:17 PM
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4. As Homeland Security
guy he is in charge of many immigration issues. Logic is Can't truist him if he is employing an illegal immigrant. Personally I'm just glad to see the guy go.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 07:19 PM
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5. Remember Kimba Wood and Lonnie Guinere?
I thought Rebutlicans were above such things. :evilgrin:
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 07:22 PM
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8. At least its a white male going down
to THIS nannygate for a change!
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cmkramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 07:26 PM
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10. Lani Guinier
Lani Guinier had nothing to do with "Nannygate". You're thinking of Zoe Baird who was Clinton's first choice to be Attorney General.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 07:32 PM
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12. Thanks for the correction
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 07:24 PM
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9. It's Just ANOTHER Lie!
:mad:This is the first few lines of a recent columnists in New York's Newsday newspaper. Check it out at:
<http://www.newsday.com/news/columnists/ny-nyhen034063947dec03,0,1568495,print.column?coll=ny-news-columnists>

Kerik nomination is a ticking time bomb
Ellis Henican

December 3, 2004

Campaign bodyguard to Rudy Giuliani.

Errand boy for the Saudi royal family.

Energetic exploiter of Sept. 11th tragedy.

Tough-talking publicity-hound vowing to bring law and order to Iraq - then hightailing it out of there after a disastrous 14 weeks, leaving the place far less safe than he found it.

Oh, the bullet points on Bernie Kerik's real-life resume just go on and on. But is this really the guy we want standing between us and the terrorists?

George W. Bush apparently thinks so.

White House sources were saying last night that Kerik, the scandal-scarred former commissioner of the New York Correction and Police departments, will be named today to take Tom Ridge's job as head of homeland security.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 07:30 PM
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11. Agreed. Rove pulled the plug for more than the Nannygate problem.
By now the democratic party should have put out a concise list of Kerik's legal, ethical and moral disabilities.
Disappearance of $1 million while running New York prison.

Outstanding warrant on condo dispute.

Unlawful use of public employees for personal purposes on at least two occasions.

Mysterious early departure from Iraq after training Iraqi police force.

Questionable purchases of weapons and ammunition while in Iraq.

Questionable investigations of personal lives of employees while doing security work in Saudi Arabia.

Possible bankruptcy fraud.

Failure to inquire about Bush administration failure in August 2001 to advise New York City about warnings of impending terrorist attacks.

Questionable stock option activity.

Nannygate problem.


Every democrat commenting on the White House having ordered Kerik to withdraw his name should have a list like this.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 07:48 PM
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14. Darn, I wanted him to stay to show the REAL face of the Bush clan
I'm sorry we lost him. He'd be such a perfect example of corruption, greed, and incompetence.


Oh well, maybe * will find another one.
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proudbluestater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:25 AM
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15. He's also guilty of insider trading, but I don't know if that
brought him down or not. Both Bush and Cheney are also guilty of that charge and no harm came to them, thanks to the media who refuses to talk of truth with regard to Bush. If it were Clinton he would have been tarred and feathered before he even took office.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:28 AM
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16. It's NOT about the nanny,
your gut instinct is right. This is NOT enough, sadly, to knock a person out of the running in the bush administration.

It is the most palatable of his skeletons. They are using this one as a smoke screen to cover up the REALLY bad ones, you can bet your next paycheck on THAT.

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