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Sat Dec-11-04 10:09 PM
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What is the best candidate for scandal to cause Impeachment of *? |
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What does everyone think is the best candidate for a scandal that could result in the impeachment (either formal congressional OR massive popular outcry) that would force * out of the WHY?
- complicity in 9-11?
- election rigging?
- Enron/Cheney's secret meetings/CA energy debacle?
- plans for invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq prior to 9-11?
- or ??
Keep in mind that the scandal would have to be (reasonably) provable and would have to be picked up by the major media and result in a Watergate type media "feeding frenzy".
Go ahead and speculate. Who knows, the media monitors these sites, it might go somewhere...
What is your bet for best scandal and why?
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Sat Dec-11-04 10:11 PM
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Sun Dec-12-04 02:55 AM
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Sat Dec-11-04 10:15 PM
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Sat Dec-11-04 10:17 PM
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Sat Dec-11-04 11:17 PM
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12. I'm fairly certain Condi |
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would bite the bullet, so to speak, and claim it was all her doing, that she was the sinful fornicater who tempted the dim son in his hour of weakness, not to mention against his will.
She would tearfully and publicly repent her own evil doings, and beg the good Christian citizens (and illegals) of this wonderful country to find it in their hearts to forgive her, and to allow her beloved husb...er, president to remain in office so that he could continue reshaping the world, according to his, er...I mean God's plan.
And the sheeple would forgive them.
The End.
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Sun Dec-12-04 03:01 AM
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You'd have to catch her with Laura, although I don't think Laura has sex. She looks like she thinks it's "icky."
Here comes my Ms. Hyde side. If I had more money than I do, I would hire someone to investigate every square inch of Karl Rove's life. I read on TBRNews.org last week that he channels J. Edgar Hoover. I think he's the one who could be brought down--and shit splatters as they say.
Whew--this is pretty nasty. Sorry--not.
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Sat Dec-11-04 10:16 PM
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3. the Democrats take the House |
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is the only way it is going to happen. Otherwise, Chimpy McFee is in for life.
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Sat Dec-11-04 10:26 PM
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5. Sex is the only thing that might get him out of the whitehouse |
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since nothing else matter to his followers.
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Sat Dec-11-04 10:32 PM
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6. I don't think even sex would do it. |
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The chimp could engage in lewd acts with a child on the field during Super Bowl halftime and half the country would find a way to excuse it. There's simply no way to change the brainwashed mind of a chimp voter.
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Sun Dec-12-04 02:27 AM
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Sat Dec-11-04 10:36 PM
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7. Nixon was forced to resign by popular outcry w/o impeachment |
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We do NOT have to re-take the House and be capable of conducting a formal impeachment to force * out.
We merely have to get adequate media attention to one of his misdeeds to create the necessary public outcry, and it will happen with or without the formalities.
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Sat Dec-11-04 10:47 PM
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The election rigging happened, but it won't get pinned on him. The energy stuff will get pinned on Cheney. 9-11 is the thing that wil eventually bring down not only him, but the entire administration.
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Sat Dec-11-04 10:49 PM
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9. It ain't gonna happen. |
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Who will tell the people?
The corporations that own the press have no interest in regime change.
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Sat Dec-11-04 10:51 PM
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10. Only another pretzel will take him out |
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Sat Dec-11-04 10:52 PM
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11. False accusations against Annan! |
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You just can't go around saying lies about the leader of the world without facing the consequences. That also gives us international support for our efforts, because the world overwhelmingly supports Annan.
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Sat Dec-11-04 11:54 PM
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13. We don't need a scandal...his record of failure speaks for itself... |
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Sun Dec-12-04 12:06 AM
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14. Apparently not, given his level of support in the election (+/- fraud) |
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Even if you assume widespread systematic fraud in the election, W still had tremendous popular support - possibly not enough to legitimately win the election - but still a popular candidate.
His record of failure, nor any of the crimes he has committed right out in the open, "speak for themselves" (or maybe they do but too few are listening.)
I am convinced that only a news media feeding frenzy will oust *. Without that he has and can continue to get away with anything.
With hostile media focus - given the real severity of his crimes against the United States - he would be utterly ruined. The trick is getting the media to cover it and to relentlessly keep covering it and digging deeper. And that really is quite a trick, given the state of the TV media.
BTW, it HAS to be the TV media. Consider that this (major, in-depth, hostile coverage of * scandals) has already been happening in the print media for years but that did not have any significant effect on the general public. It's not 'real' unless it's on TV.
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Sun Dec-12-04 12:16 AM
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Insider trading while at Harken Energy.Prosecution by the US Government.
Waging illegal war. Prosecutable by the world community.
Condoning/encouraging torure and abuse of prisoners. Violation of the Geneva Conventions.
Defying Supreme Court ruling which states that the "enemy combatants" at Guantanamo Bay may NOT be held indefinitely and without legal representation. Violation of US law.
Condoning/permitting the use of illegal cluster bombs in Iraq - violation of International Humanitarian law.
Targeting civilians, hospitals, ambulances, and members of the press in Iraq. Violation of the Geneva Convention.
Two stolen elections. At least a felony.
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Sun Dec-12-04 12:26 AM
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16. How about a weekly TV Reality News Show - "Bush Exposed!" |
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Now that it's not an election year anymore, they could not use the FEC to try to stop it, nor could they claim anyone was trying to influence the election.
I know there is enough material to do an hour show every week until the end of *'s reign (on-time or premature).
The corporate media? They have one god higher than the GOP - $$. There are about 45 million angry Americans who would LOVE to watch "Bush Exposed".
There is money in this idea for the first network brave enough to do it, and tons of money for the first companies brave enough to buy the ad time. Admit it - you'd buy a whole truck load of tuna if Starkist ran an ad during the premiere episode of "Bush Exposed".
Now if it really did take off, there would of course be copy-cat spin-offs on all the other networks (a la Survivor)...would'nt that be nice...networks tripping over each other trying to outdo each other "Exposing Bush".
We can dream.
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Sun Dec-12-04 01:16 AM
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17. Sorry for the buzzkill, but it'll never happen. The right wing runs... |
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the whole show now, and no matter what horrendous scandal might be unearthed, it would be spun, parsed, scattered, faked and double-faked into eternity.
Example: Abu Gharaib prison torture, fully documented, a violation of Geneva Conventions, and everything that the U.S. allegedly stood for -- not **one** right-wing executive head rolled. Not one.
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Sun Dec-12-04 02:20 AM
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18. No. Every power-hungry conquerer eventually over-extends themselves... |
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and inevitably face their "Waterloo" (everyone from Alexander the Great, to Napoleon, to Hitler, to Nixon). Aside from over-extending, they eventually become too arrogant, and refuse to believe they can be defeated, and from that arrogance comes mistakes in judgement, cover-ups later revealed.
Bushco has not only over-extended, but also alienated far too many enemies worldwide. And since the dollar is weak now, and we're borrowing massively abroad, and depleting our military forces rapidly...it is only a matter of time. Perhaps sooner.
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Sun Dec-12-04 02:58 AM
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21. Excellent point....well worth remembering in our darkest hours. |
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Much smarter, much more powerful leaders have fallen. We can't even win in Iraq. What's *'s next trick going to be. Oh yeah, there is always the Grenada nostalgia invasion. You are right, he's about to do a Richard III.
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Sun Dec-12-04 03:37 AM
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The Republicans have a solid grip on both the House and Senate; there is no way in hell Bush will ever be impeached for anything, period. Daydreaming about nonsense like impeachment and "flipping Ohio to Kerry" is a complete waste of time.
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Sun Dec-12-04 03:48 AM
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24. I don't think anything will remove Chimpus Khan from office, but I do |
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think there'll be a scandal that could well damage the republican party's chances in 08. And that's the voting thing.
I think some serious malfeasance will come to light from the "quiet investigations" being done in Ohio and elsewhere. I think it will get traction and I think some of it will stick. Not to King Khan - he's immune to almost anything. And it won't get Kerry into office.
I think Blackwell is a ticking time bomb and I think he's going to blow up with a little more pressure. He hasn't got half the nerve and sheer chutzpah of Katherine Harris.
Rather than getting King Khan out of office, I think the election fraud thing will show some larger right wing conspiracies and lead to election reform and paper receipts (one copy to the voter and one to be held on file for a hand recount, if need be) if not good old fashioned paper ballots.
If this happens, it would be damned near as good, at least in its effect, as seeing Barbara's man-child in leg irons.
The far more remote possibility is that the election fraud investigations get so big that we face a constitutional crisis. I have **no** idea how that would play out!
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