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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:32 AM
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Man it gets frustrating...doesn't it?
There are so many folks, in the DU, that know so much more than the mainstream dribble that the masses are force fed.
How do you deal with it this contrast in everyday life with the average "sheep"?
I keep an open mind and know that there is so much more to learn but what I do know is so far beyond my co-workers and most people I come in contact with. Most people I am around don't spend 2 hours a night studying world events.
I am serious. This may sound like I am bragging but I study a wide source of info and read a lot so I am different. The mainstream watches TV and says such predicable nonsense.

OK, I hope this didn't come off condescending but damn it I get frustrated just conversing with the "average" person sometimes.

And you? How do you deal with this?





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Ruffhowse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:39 AM
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1. I know what you mean, except my problem is closer to home. I have a
father who is retired and watches FOX News all freakin' day. Trying to talk to him about world events and politics after that dose of right wing brainwashing is impossible. He's got my step-mom brainwashed too, so when I go over there, it is VERY unpleasant. At least at work I know who I can talk politics with and who to avoid. It really sucks when your relatives, who you can't avoid, are right wing nutjobs.
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:49 AM
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3. Yes, where you feel
like a 'pod person' in your own family...that's rough. My father, sister. b-in-law are all complete RW rush-loving freepers. My mom, I can tell, thinks they go overboard but still is with them to a certain extent.

As for coworkers and others, I know what you mean...most of the time I just don't even go there because I know most will just spout the typical MSM bs. It's great (though rare) when you discover someone else who you can really talk to!
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:42 AM
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2. I hear you! I feel exactly the same way. And then do you sometimes
wonder if you might be just a tiny bit obsessed? That's what the sheeple tell me. "I'm worried about you.", they say. I tell them they better quit worrying about me and START worrying about this country. They just don't get it, especially the religiously fundamental. I'll tell you how I handle it, I get mad as heck. I get mad. I'm like you reading everything I can get my hands on. Did you see this article?

I sent this out to my sheeple friends and family this morning:
********************************************************************
my words:
What is so valuable in the Ukraine, that the US $pend$ 65 MILLION DOLLARS on? Here is some sheer U.S. propaganda...........just read this. Hint for the "slow pokes", it's the oil and ga$. Now think for a minute what this money could do for our schools, our roads, our election process..........or EVEN OUR NATIONAL DEBT......

from the article:
"The Bush administration has spent more than $65 million in the past two years to aid political organizations in Ukraine. U.S. officials say the activities don't amount to interference in Ukraine's election but are part of the $1 billion the State Department spends each year trying to build democracy worldwide."

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/printstory.mpl/world/2944768 Houston Chronicle

my added words:
So 65% of our "spreading democracy money" goes for spreading democracy or as Yan-u-kov-ych says "interference" with their democracy? Did the rogue elements of the CIA poison Yanukovych? Do you think that Yanukovych would have complained if his "party" had received THAT money? It appears that the "will of the Ukrainian people" who took to the freezing cold streets by the thousands for days was stronger than any interference the US could provide. Any more questions? Wait, I have a question. So why aren't we in the streets, since the will of the American people was stolen AGAIN during the 2004 and the 2000 election through election fraud? Election fraud brought the Ukraine folks out into the streets. When will we wake up?



As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness. Justice William O. Douglas Some need warning, some need proof. Proverbs 3:33


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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:49 AM
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4. I take refuge in misanthropy
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:50 AM
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5. I just recently realized
how hard it is to explain anything (fraud, iraq, SS stuff) to my non DU friends.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:58 PM
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8. It is!
They do not have the depth of the issues that most have here.
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AG78 Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:54 AM
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6. Liberal elitest
With your readin' and book learnin'. You are what's wrong with America.

How do I deal with that? I want to get a megaphone, stand up on the rooftops, and ask; "what in the holy hell is wrong with you people?"
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:57 AM
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7. Ha Ha
Nice comic relief!!
I hear ya loud and clear!!!!

:toast:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 09:17 PM
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9. DU is my oasis from the sea of ignorance that is Texas
absolutely
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 09:24 PM
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10. We can only hope the "average person" wakes up
Despite what BushCo says, freedom is not "on the march". Freedom is under attack. There is an "American lifestyle" that people are expected to conform to. Watch TV - load up on commercials, buy lots of stuff, watch football, and basketball, talk about Scott Peterson. (That way you're distracted while getting screwed over by BushCo.) This lifestyle does not seem very "free" to me. The way I deal with the "average person" is to see him or her as the deep down good person I know. Then I try to imagine what he or she would be like if only they didn't buy into all the bullshit being sold to people under the brand name "Typical American Lifestyle". In my world, most people are good people. Although not everyone is as good at resisting brainwashing as you or I. :)
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