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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:25 PM
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NYT, AP: Ohio Court "can declare new winner or throw out" Results of Pres.
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 01:36 PM by jamboi
NYT, AP: Ohio Electors Vote Despite Challenge
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=703&e=1&u=/ap/20041213/ap_on_re_us/ohio_electoral_college
Ohio Electors Vote Despite Challenge
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Published: December 13, 2004

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) --

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The challengers who went to the Supreme Court question whether Bush won the key swing state by 119,000 votes, guaranteeing his victory over Democrat John Kerry.

The court did not act on their request before the electors cast their ballots.

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If the court decides to hear the challenge, it can declare a new winner or throw out the results.

``While the existence of anomalies could possibly be explained by human error or technical malfunctions, the fact that, in every case in Ohio known to the contestors, the error favored the Bush-Cheney ticket, strongly indicates manipulation or fraud,'' the challengers said in a court filing.

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Congressional Democrats sent a letter to the governor on Monday, asking him to delay the electoral vote or at least consider the results unofficial until the disputes are resolved.

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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:27 PM
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1. More: "High tech vote stealing"
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The Rev. Jesse Jackson and attorney Cliff Arnebeck of the Massachusetts-based Alliance for Democracy accused President Bush's campaign of ``high-tech vote stealing.''

Jackson said the challengers noticed Bush generally received more votes in counties that use optical-scan voting machines and questioned whether the machines were calibrated to record votes for Bush.

Critics of the election claim there were disparities in vote totals for Democrats, too few voting machines in Democrat-leaning precincts, organized campaigns directing voters to the wrong polling place and confusion over the counting of provisional ballots by voters whose names did not appear in the records at polling places.

The challengers allege unlawful ballots were added to the total and legally cast ballots were altered. Without listing specific evidence, the complaint alleges 130,656 votes for Kerry and John Edwards in 36 counties were somehow switched to count for the Bush-Cheney ticket.

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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:36 PM
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2. All the marbles are on the table here! n/t
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disillusioned1 Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:43 PM
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3. Here's the Ohio Supremes
Let's do some googling on 'em.

http://www.sconet.state.oh.us/Justices/
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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:13 PM
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4. Good info. Also the higher profile we can give it I think the better. n/t
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disillusioned1 Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:16 PM
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5. I'll see what I can dig up on them this evening
That Alice Robie what's her name is from my home town.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:59 PM
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6. We Need To Keep This On The Front Burner
No matter what Blackwell did yesterday by dragging his feet for so long until the the electors voted, we need to PUSH!

Scream, Holler, Yell, Shreak... whatever! This election was stolen and they have been COVERING UP since Nov. 2nd!

Even if the outcome doesn't change, our voices need to be heard LOUD AND CLEAR!
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Technowitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:06 PM
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7. Can but won't.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:27 PM
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8. Don't hold your breath...
The court may be able to delay the certification, but don't expect the court itself to "declare a new winner". I'm all for delaying the official certification until the issues can be investigated, but I think that in the end, the legislature and executive branches should be the ones to certify the election (as is the law in that state). IMHO, this would just heap another issue (seperation of powers) onto already screwed up electoral process.
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