Wes Clark on Paula Zahn/CNN at 8:30p.m. ET tonight.....

[FrenchieCat]

According to Suzanne Munson, who works for WesPAC...I am passing on the message....

GENERAL CLARK IS BACK IN THE U.S. AND WILL BE APPEARING TONIGHT ON PAULA ZAHN ON CNN AT APPROX. 8:30PM ET.
HAVE A GREAT DAY,

SUZANNE MUNSON

Clark has been at an Middle East conference along with President Clinton

Arab reform: a pair of very different faces]
By Rami G. Khouri, Daily Star staff
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&c...
Excerpts:
The eastern and western poles of the Middle East this week, Arab reform reveals its two very different faces. Gatherings of prominent Arabs and Westerners in Rabat and Dubai offer two contrasting versions of the best path to a crucial goal which is now widely acknowledged in the region and abroad: the need to reform Arab political and economic systems, and perhaps also underlying social and educational norms...

"The two gatherings in question are the Rabat meeting Saturday of the Forum for the Future, and the Arab Strategy Forum that opens in Dubai Monday. They are as far apart conceptually as they are geographically...
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"The three-day Arab Strategy Forum offers a different approach to identifying the challenges, constraints and opportunities of the Arab world. It also hopes to suggest the most feasible means of moving the region on a path of reform aiming for stability and prosperity. Up to 1,000 participants are expected, where Arab and international officials and analysts will debate political reform, security and economic and human development issues.

"Among the speakers are former U.S. President Bill Clinton, Dubai Crown Prince and U.A.E. Defense Minister General Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid al-Maktoum, Syrian Expatriates Minister Buthaina Shaaban, Hanan Ashrawi from Palestine, U.S. scholar Fouad Ajami, New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman, International Atomic Energy Agency chief Mohammad ElBaradei, former NATO Supreme Allied Commander General Wesley Clark, former Lebanese Premier Rafik Hariri, the foreign ministers of Iraq and Qatar, the prime ministers of Libya and Malaysia, and numerous other scholars, officials and businessmen and women from across the world...."

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At the conference at which ElBaradei spoke, retired U.S. Army Gen. Wesley Clark, the former NATO supreme allied commander and
Democratic presidential candidate, called on Arab countries to curb
Iran's nuclear ambitions.

"Go to your neighbor across the Gulf and say in clear terms: Your
efforts to acquire nuclear capabilities are not welcome, they are
not appreciated, they won't improve your security and they won't
improve our security," Clark said.

[Leilani]

1. Woo Hoo! Go Wes!

Wes in the Middle East, speaking with leaders of the world.

Obviously, Wes was invited; it's wonderful that the rest of the world appreciates his brillance & talents.

[Leilani]

2. These people are THE world's experts

on the Middle East, & Wes Clark is their equal.

Mighty impressive.

[FrenchieCat]

3. Yes.....we must communicate with all of the Arab world...

and this is a good start...since Bush won't do it.....
former U.S. President Bill Clinton, Dubai Crown Prince and U.A.E. Defense Minister General Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid al-Maktoum, Syrian Expatriates Minister Buthaina Shaaban, Hanan Ashrawi from Palestine, U.S. scholar Fouad Ajami, New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman, International Atomic Energy Agency chief Mohammad ElBaradei, former NATO Supreme Allied Commander General Wesley Clark, former Lebanese Premier Rafik Hariri, the foreign ministers of Iraq and Qatar, the prime ministers of Libya and Malaysia

[Sparkly]

4. I can't wait to hear what he has to say about it

Was there ANYbody even pretending to represent the Chimp administration?

[FrenchieCat]

5. Nope.....

Think this conference was for "rational" folks. Chimp Chump admin not allowed.

[illbill]

6. Wes Clark...

is pathetic. When he hosted CNN prior to the primaries he completely butchered the coverage on the Iraq Way, more specifically the "Shock and Awe". While people were discussing why it was wrong to invade, simple Wes Clark (while Republican at this point) was discussing war plans... nothing to say about the actual reason or morality of the way... he disgusts me.

Biden 08'!

[RafterMan]

7. You get sanctimonious about the war

and finish it off with "Biden '08"?

Goodness.

[11cents]

8. Hilarious

Maybe you should ask Joe Biden why he was such a strong backer of the pathetic Wesley Clark. He said on the Daily Show that he was only holding off on endorsing Clark out of deference to Kerry. (This was before Iowa.)

[FrenchieCat]

9. Biden's followers must be

uninformed and of low post count...meaning, they haven't been awake very long. It really is pathetic to have crap spewn into a positive Clark thread by a low count poster who is supporting someone that's a FP/NS "posseur".

"only talks loud when he has nothing to lose" Biden is a Pink Tu-tu Democrat, no matter how he tries to act like he's not. Voted for the war, and talked it up on Charlie Rose just about everynight before it happened.

http://factcheck.org/article97.html
Clark has never been registered as a Republican. During his Army service he registered to vote as an independent (as do many career military officers) in his home state of Arkansas . Clark says he voted for Republican Presidents Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan out of concern for national security during the Vietnam and Cold War years. But he says later he found Republicans to be “shrill” and “isolationist.” And so he says he voted for fellow Arkansas resident Bill Clinton and most recently for Al Gore, both Democrats. Clark changed his voter registration to Democrat only after retiring from the Army in 2000 and declaring himself a candidate for the party’s nomination late in September, 2003.

[Crunchy Frog]

11. BIDEN?!?

Mr Plagiarism himself, who was drooling over the prospect of a Kerry/McCain ticket? That Biden?

Don't get me wrong, I think Biden is an OK Senator, but as presidential material, not remotely in Clark's league.

Oh, and Clark was no more a Republican than you were at that point, (well, I don't know what your status was or is actually, but I know he wasn't). Nice work with the Karl Rove talking points and thread hijacking though.

[dogman]

16. I don't think there is a real awareness of Biden here.

There's no reason to attack Biden based on an attack on Clark. I think division is really old and fruitless. You would expect a Biden supporter to at least extoll some virtue to his position.

[illbill]

23. Thankyou

I'm sorry guys that you have so much support for Clark. I disagree with the support of him and think Biden is the most genuine senator on the floor.

I thought there would be some understanding in the responses although disagreement because of our common goals.

Some of you need to re-examine your impressions of Biden and definately rethink your support of Clark.

Did ANYONE see his pathetic attempts on CNN? He was nervous. Oh yeah, how did he do in the primaries?

:)

[RafterMan]

24. How did Biden do in the primaries

:o

[illbill]

25. True...

that. :(

[FrenchieCat]

26. Re-examine.....

what the top of the thread was about....

So you get one of these...

[Tom Rinaldo]

35. I think Biden is one of the better Senators. Now for your real point

Give up on the Clark acts scared routine. It makes you look ridiculous. I know it was part of the smear attempts against Clark early in the Primary season. It was ridiculous then also, but that never stopped Rove and company before so I wasn't surprised. There was not a braver man running for President than Wes Clark. He doesn't scare. He might get caught off balance like any of us from time to time, but he doesn't scare. Wes Clark was a blank slate to many when he ran, so his enemies tried to fill in the blanks with obscenities. 2008 is a long way off and Clark is not a stranger to politics any longer. That smear will not work against him. Look elsewhere for material to use against Clark. Free Republic might have some ideas.

[dogman]

38. For what?

I was pointing out that I don't believe you are a Biden supporter. I believe you just wanted to divide Dems and cause Clarkies to flame Biden for your own pleasure. If you supported Biden you would not come aboard flaming Clark, you would state the merits of Biden in contrast to Clark. How can anyone rethink Biden when all we see is a supposed supporter denigate Clark with baseless attacks.

[Sparkly]

15. I can tell you were listening reeeeally carefully

to some other channel. :eyes:

He never "hosted CNN."
He never "butchered coverage."
He never was a Republican.

He testified about "why it was wrong to invade" BEFORE the invasion!

He spoke out alot before and after about the "actual reason or morality of the war," including writing several articles and a BOOK on the topic!

[Donna Zen]

18. Ya think?

If you thought the war was a "great" idea like Biden, then maybe the truth telling General might not have been to ones liking. I'm just trying to understand this comment, because considering the professional critics thought Wes was the best.

[Sparkly]

19. Don't ask me

My guess is that such comments aren't really based on anything the General actually said or wrote. :shrug:

[illbill]

30. Umm...

I followed CNN since 9/11 everyday. I was up 19 hours of the day... CNN had Wes Clark as a commentator for a good 6 months prior to the primaries... he was and is a weak candidate although he may appeal to Southern voters.

[Sparkly]

33. If you "followed it," you'd know he was not a "host"

and you might know that he didn't say anything like what you claim he said.

As for a "weak candidate," at the time he dropped he'd raised more money than anybody but Dean and he did it more quickly, he was second in more states than anyone at that time, he was endorsed by a wide range of people from civil rights leaders to ambassadors, from Michael Moore to George McGovern, and he still has strong grassroots support even now.

"Weak candidate" my ass.

[dogman]

17. Is Biden up for reelection in '08?

[JNelson6563]

31. Funny stuff

Iraq is a mess but Biden rocks? Stop, you're killin' me! At least Clark didn't vote for it and then spout sickening shit about how great Bush was to start this illegal war.

Julie

[FrenchieCat]

10. Just

a kick.....up the GOP's behind....

[FrenchieCat]

12. Wes on Paula Zahn...

Wes Spoke a truth that even the GOP lemings would understand....Rumsfeld is strong and wrong.

Paula asked Wes if he thought that Rumsfeld should resign.....

Wes said that Rumsfeld has some good quality....unlike his boss, he does accept responsibility.

Rumsfeld, however, although appearing to be a strong leader is a bad leader who has shown poor judgement. During wartime, judgement is most important.

Wes doesn't alienate....he draws you in....and then let's you know what he thinks. That's why he is so good.

Those walking away from that interview understood that the bottomline in a war that the US started was to minimize the loss of lives. Loss of life is happening because the emphasis on making sure everything was done to keep our soldiers safe didn't happen. The Chimp-Chump admin just didn't do it. period.

[Sparkly]

13. Nicely done, General!!

He basically said "Rummy's good at seizing power he's given, getting people to tell him what he wants to hear, and telling the Preznit what HE wants to hear... He's shown bad judgment, and he's a bad leader."

He also pointed out that this administration came into office wanting to cut ground forces in order to build up missile defense (= go back to Reagan's wars and fund their defense contractor contributors). Obviously, that's also why they completely IGNORED counter-terrorism and every warning they were given. (I remember those 8 months in 2001 very well!) Anyway, he explained their conundrum in trying to continue that plan given the reality of what they're doing in Iraq. They needed more funding for the ground forces and their equipment, and they've tried to shield the American public from the truth of what's going on instead.

He always tells it like it is.

(I really wish she'd asked him about his trip to the ME with the Big Dawg, though!!)

[Leilani]

28. Paula Zahn is a waste

Just saw the show, & couldn't believe she didn't ask him about the trip.

Sure, he's an excellent analyst on all things military, but he's so much more than that.

The talking heads do not have a clue...I was waiting for her to ask him if Scott Peterson deserved the death penalty.

We complain that the American people are not informed, & it's true, but the media doesn't do their job.

[Donna Zen]

14. Iron fist meet velvet glove

Rummy: Likes to take responsibility; bad judgement.

I liked the part where Clark quickly outlines how and why bush-rummy went on the cheap: saving money for "Star Wars." Then they realized what a mess they had on their hands, they continued to do the wrong thing by retarding the necessary improvements.

Shocked by the Pentagon's lack of will in getting armour. (Paula ze von zahn tried to down play the FU, by saying that no one could know.) Wes: They've known they didn't have what they needed and never called the manufacturers. Appauled says Wes.

Note: why does Frau von zahn always wear leather for the General? (rhetorical)

[JNelson6563]

32. I disagree on that point

I think Rummy avoids responsibility like the plague. The rest I agree with.

Oh and Paula Zahn makes me ill.

Julie

[Tom Rinaldo]

34. God I hate her too

What a preening piece of wonder bread.

[Donna Zen]

36. Paula vonzahn zee leather whoaman ya?

IIRC, Paula is aka as godmother to a bush child...one of Neil's.

When she interviewed Moore, at the end he commented, "Is that anti-bacterial soap back there ( Paula's green room) for me or you?"

Very weird.

[Pithy Cherub]

37. Did you miss all of the green mold?

Paula is not the "freshest" member of the wonder bread msm!

Gotta love that General though! :)

[Stinky The Clown]

20. Wow! A whole thread and no spelled his name "Clarke". Way ta go, Folks!

s'about time!

[Leilani]

21. I'm really looking forward to watching Wes on Paula Zahn show

I haven't seen it yet; I get it at 9PM HST, which is 2 AM Eastern.

I really enjoy listening to someone who doesn't need "Talking Points" for all interviews. He has the quickest, most agile mind I've ever seen in public life.

He can jump from discussing the War in Iraq, to the situation in the Middle East,from economic policy, to religious values in the heartland. And that's when he's just getting started.

[Leilani]

22. Oh dear, the other Wes Clark thread is over 200 posts.

I guess nobody wants to discuss foreign affairs, or Wes's trip to the Mideast.

Did anyone notice that there has been a complete news blackout on the conference in the Mideast.

Oh wait, Scott Peterson was found guilty, & the Michael Jackson trial is warming up.

[FrenchieCat]

27. Close to 250 posts now,

but who's counting. It's actually a great thread....

also partial transcript on Paula Zahn...to be know as "leather woman for Clark".....as she always wears leather when he's to be on. Maybe it makes her feel more "mano-mano"....considering she has to deal with the General.

He was nice to her today......but she shouldn't bet on any consistency. Maybe Wes was a little jet lagged...cause he just got back from that Middle-East conference. He was gentle with her, and she BETTER be glad of it.

WORDS BY GENERAL CLARK WITH LEATHER WOMAN!

"...Rumsfeld, is a a strong leader, adroit, meaning someone who likes to get his way, but the question is, how much judgment does he have, and in my opinion, he has trouble with judgment.

There is a dialogue that goes back and forth and he is the one that shapes what the military commanders have to say, and people always try to work to please the boss and he's the boss, and he has some real plusses and some real minuses, but his minus is his lack of judgment, and his commanders were marginalized early on.

The weight of the administration with multiple agendas on this, this adm. came on with the agenda to cut the forces, and then subsequently has retarded efforts to bring the forces up to strength.

I was astounded that armor manufacturers were not asked to send armor over to the troops. "Put that armor on there, spare no expense, work overtime!"

We've always known they didn't have what they needed, body armor, and trucks didn't have armor, they didn't at the beginning and they don't now, and the administration didn't put emphasis on this."

[Leilani]

29. LOL!

"Leather Woman"...I like that.