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Fri Dec-17-04 03:21 PM
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Kerry called for Rumsfeld's resignation June 2003 AND in 04. Media barely |
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reported on it.
Kerry also wanted ACCOUNTABILITY for the billions that were being spent in Iraq, and ESPECIALLY the money that was supposed to go to armor. The media just allowed Bush and the GOP talking heads to twist into an attack on Kerry.
The media also ignored the fact that Kerry was raising money specifically FOR the families who were buying armor to send the troops.
Really interesting how the media twisted that entire issue AGAINST Kerry and ignored his REAL efforts while they propped up the dictatortot and supported his LIES.
Now the media and even some Republicans are jumping on a bandwagon that ALL of them mocked steadily over the last two years.
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Fri Dec-17-04 03:22 PM
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1. I got a petition from the Kerry campaign last May. |
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About calling for Rumsfeld's resignation, which I signed. I know all about this.
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Fri Dec-17-04 03:30 PM
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Predictably, nothing happened.
Kind of like before the Iraq War: people shouted and shouted and shouted about how rotten an idea it was, and it was like we were beating a brick wall.
Frankly, this so-called "democracy" is getting a little tiring. It's not like the opinion of the people matter anyway.
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Fri Dec-17-04 03:23 PM
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2. I hope none of that surprises you. |
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Damn I feel so jaded, but it all rings overly typical to me. *sigh*
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Bethany Rockafella
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Fri Dec-17-04 03:28 PM
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3. It's the MEDIA, stupid! |
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Not calling you stupid, of course.
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Fri Dec-17-04 03:31 PM
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6. and some "democrats" also |
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like on DU who attack Kerry for saying what he has always said for years. and then claim he is doing it only because the Republicans said something.
but as those of us who paid attention to what was really going on rather than what the right wing media claimed, we already knew he has been saying this for years . long before the republicans who are coming out now said anything.
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blm
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Fri Dec-17-04 07:26 PM
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Sickening in its predictibility.
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Jo March
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Fri Dec-17-04 03:31 PM
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5. Maybe we can "leak" this to the MSM: Kerry calls for Rummy's resignation! |
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then send them the story that they freaking didn't report on in 2003!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Fri Dec-17-04 03:41 PM
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7. The America MSM is an embarrassment to the us and the world period. |
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Fri Dec-17-04 03:42 PM
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8. So true. It's pathetic, isn't it? |
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We have to take it back somehow.
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Fri Dec-17-04 06:55 PM
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11. It was a big part of his campaign, but the media only favored Rove spin. |
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Goes to show how decisively Kerry needed to win those debates, since the media was always so poised to prop up Bush no matter what.
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Fri Dec-17-04 04:09 PM
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That's why I was so pissed last week when McCain now thinks it's a-okay to jump on the anti-Rumsfeld wagon.
Now that your boy is elected and your loyalty is safe.
How many more dead than didn't need to be?
How many more wounded?
And McCain-you have been schumcked over royally-they aren't EVER going to let you be Prez, in case you had some high hopes.
Don't even get me started on the "media".
Are their kids dying? Didn't think so. I bet their kids all have good educations and don't have to join the army to make a living.
It's just a fucking game to them.
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Fri Dec-17-04 05:55 PM
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10. They control most of the media and most of the voting machines. |
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There will be NO democracy in the US until those two matters are addressed.
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Fri Dec-17-04 07:44 PM
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14. McCain has been one of Rumsfeld's most vocal critics |
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since the start of the war...maybe you weren't listening.
He was also one of the leaders in Congress on trying to get the truth on Abu Gharib.
He has made many trips to Iraq...how many has Kerry made?
He is a regular visitor to Walter Reed Medical Center, & has tried to make the media aware of what's going on with our troops. He has brought lots of celebrities to the hospital to get word out. Don Imus, who was there recently with McCain, said even the maintenance men know him by his first name, & many don't know he's a Senator. He spends time with the wounded & their families.
Has John Kerry ever visited the wounded at Walter Reed?
Maybe McCain supported Bush because he knew Kerry wouldn't run the distance, as we are now witnessing.
And McCain's son is at the Naval Academy Rep School, which means he will serve his country.
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Fri Dec-17-04 08:37 PM
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15. Not good enough for me |
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Sorry-you campaign for the boss that keeps the soldiers fucked-you don't get to claim you are the good guy.
Apparently you can't stand Kerry-booyah for you.
At least Kerry didn't fucking campaign for Bush-I find that my dividing line for whom is respectable and who isn't.
And any good McCain might have done is worthless absoulutely worthless-because he campaigned to keep Bush in office!
Maybe next time you should campaign for McCain since you love him so much. UGH.
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Fri Dec-17-04 08:52 PM
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17. Ya had my attention until that last sentence |
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"If you love him so much why don't you marry him."
Ya sorta entered grade school with that sentiment.
But I have to admit, the pictures of McCain and Bush hugging make me wanna take a shower. Shudder. Ick. Ick. Ick.
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Fri Dec-17-04 08:48 PM
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16. Don't make this McCain vs Kerry |
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I don't think either one would want that.
They are both on the same side of this. Kerry has been calling for Rummy's resignation. And who knows when or how often he's been to Walter Reed or elsewhere. We do know he's been to Arlington.
McCain hasn't been running for president for the last 2 years, and Kerry has. Kerry will be going in January. It's not a contest, really.
I like them both. I'm glad that a Republican POW and a Democratic war protester could find common ground. Both have to play politics on occasion. Eh, they're politicians, whatchagonnado. But they're both good men.
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Sat Dec-18-04 10:20 AM
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19. Kerry was campaigning for two years AND called for Rumsfeld's resignation |
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TWICE in those two years.
Why on EARTH, are you dissing Kerry over this?
Kerry was supposed to go to Iraq more times than McCain before he could criticize Rumsfeld in your book?
If McCain was completely honest, he would have backed Kerry when he said Rumsfeld was incompetent two years ago.
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Mon Dec-20-04 04:26 PM
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22. No, I was answering the guy who smeared McCain |
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And McCain was never going to back Kerry...he's a Republican.
And McCain defended Kerry alot more than many Dems did.
McCain was one of the early ones, along WITH Kerry criticizing Rumsfeld.
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Mon Dec-20-04 04:31 PM
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24. And I agree that the media gave Kerry a miserable time |
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They weren't fair to him...pointed out all negative things, not many of the positives.
I supported Kerry & wanted him to win, but sometimes the hypocrisy gets to be a little too much.
Also, Kerry's campaign staff did a lousy job getting Kerry's side of the story out. They needed to be more agressive.
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Fri Dec-17-04 07:33 PM
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13. And even Rummy said we'd be out of Iraq in four years |
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gee, where did I hear that before.
And we think the media would suddenly be behind Kerry if he came storming out now because...
God love that National Guardsman. He may have just done what so many couldn't. They can't seem to spin his question down. No matter how many times they say it was planted, no one seems to take notice but the Right Radio guys. It's Rummy Season, and after Bush specifically asked him to stay too.
I love the smell of burning Republican in the morning.
By the way, I LOVE "dictatortot"! LOL!
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Fri Dec-17-04 09:13 PM
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18. but SOME on DU are... |
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Mon Dec-20-04 04:18 PM
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20. Kerry has yet another "I told you so" for 2008. |
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among the hundreds of others.
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Mon Dec-20-04 04:22 PM
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21. And he deserves kudos for doing so. |
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It's not really a surprise this is happening, of course. But credit where credit is due, he did indeed call for Skeletor's resignation - for which I applaud him.
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Mon Dec-20-04 04:29 PM
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and the media like always ignores it.
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Mon Dec-20-04 07:09 PM
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25. Kerry should have resigned himself, after voting for IWR. The whole |
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Rumsfeld flap is just a way for war supporters to further blame and scapegoat anybody but themselves.
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