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Fri Dec-17-04 04:42 PM
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Poll question: Getting labels correct: Is health care for all Americans moderate or lib? |
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Fri Dec-17-04 04:44 PM
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1. It should be moderate, but it is considered liberal. |
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Corporations receive bailouts from the government, but giving the people, whose tax dollars fund the corporate bailout, health insurance is viewed as socialist.
I think health care should be available to ALL.
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Fri Dec-17-04 04:46 PM
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2. Only by those who don't want it. |
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They label things liberal as an excuse to avoid making them reality.
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Fri Dec-17-04 05:16 PM
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12. As a way to avoid paying for them. |
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People in Congress have excellent government provided healthcare. We the taxpayers who pay for that, do not have it for ourselves.
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Fri Dec-17-04 05:46 PM
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Are you residing in my brain? LOL
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Fri Dec-17-04 04:47 PM
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3. Why even bother with those labels? |
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Health care for all Americans is common sense. It's morally right. It's compassionate. It's caring. It's humane. It's the right thing to do.
It's not a matter of being liberal, moderate, or "conservative." If you don't support health care for all Americans, you are not a human being, and you can get the fuck off my planet.
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Fri Dec-17-04 04:48 PM
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4. Health care for all Americans is beyond labels, |
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It's simply common fucking sense.
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Fri Dec-17-04 04:57 PM
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8. The Only Debate Is How We Get There.... |
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I like the French system better than the Canadian system... Universal health care for all and if you want added services you have to pay for it.....
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Fri Dec-17-04 06:46 PM
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25. Maybe if we define common sense as liberalism |
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people will stop voting for conservatives. It worked the other way around for Republicans.
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Fri Dec-17-04 04:49 PM
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5. Moderates and liberals support healthcare for everyone. n/t |
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Fri Dec-17-04 04:50 PM
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6. "Health Care"? Or "Government paid and managed health care"? |
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One is moderate... the other is liberal.
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Fri Dec-17-04 05:00 PM
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10. Rather spend billions on healthcare than a foreign fiasco. n/t |
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Fri Dec-17-04 06:03 PM
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19. Sure! Except health care is "Trillions"... not "Billions". n/t |
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Fri Dec-17-04 06:23 PM
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21. Okay, then don't borrow trillions to privatize SS then either. n/t |
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Fri Dec-17-04 06:48 PM
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Fri Dec-17-04 06:31 PM
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24. US Gov spends more money per capita on health care than any nation |
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but everyone isn't covered.
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Fri Dec-17-04 06:21 PM
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20. Every industrialized nation is liberal? |
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Fri Dec-17-04 07:00 PM
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27. By US standards? You bet! n/t |
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Fri Dec-17-04 04:54 PM
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7. neither. It's a progressive issue |
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I think progressives should take it as OUR issue and run with it.
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Fri Dec-17-04 04:58 PM
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9. I think it's a human issue... |
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we are the only industialized nation that does not have health care for all our citizens.
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Fri Dec-17-04 05:02 PM
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You'd think conservatives would want to conserve the health of the population of citizens, workers and voters, wouldn't you?
I guess they only want to conserve corporate profits and the lifestyles of the super wealthy.
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Fri Dec-17-04 05:39 PM
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14. But if they don't pay attention to the health |
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of the workers that provide those corporate profits they won't last long. Between killing off the next generation of labor in wars of exapansionism and killing off those at home because they can't afford health care, how will the money machine continue to grind?
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Sat Dec-18-04 02:29 AM
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32. no, they'll just outsource the work to countries which do have |
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government sponsored health care--the corporations dont' have to pay for health coverage and they don't have to pay the workers as much.
They could care less that the labor pool is drying up here.
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Fri Dec-17-04 05:31 PM
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13. it, too, is sensible :) |
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i'm really digging this word. it encompasses all, crossing boundaries, while also isolating other opinions (because they are wrong :evilgrin:)
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Fri Dec-17-04 05:42 PM
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Fri Dec-17-04 05:48 PM
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17. It's basically a socialist idea |
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just like social security was first advanced by socialists.
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Fri Dec-17-04 05:50 PM
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18. Depends on how it's implemented |
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If it's a government sponsered program for everyone, a la Great Britian it's liberal.
If it's a choice of competitive plans with some sort of subsidy or credit based on income need, etc. then it's moderate.
BB
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Fri Dec-17-04 06:27 PM
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22. other than the US and i think 1 or 2 nations, every industrialized nation |
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Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 06:32 PM by sonicx
has universal health care. In Canada, i read that even the Conservative Party supports it (of course, if they were in power, that tune would change).
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Fri Dec-17-04 07:40 PM
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The response to universal health care depends entirely on the details of its implementation.
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Fri Dec-17-04 07:42 PM
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It's effectiveness does as well. :)
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Fri Dec-17-04 06:29 PM
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23. I could not vote ..... no category for "The Right Thing to Do" |
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Why must something so fundamentally correct in a nation such as ours - to say nothing of the entire planet - have a label?
There is not one person on the entire planet who isn't simply **entitled** to health care. Who among us shall be the first to be turned away?
We can argue the "how". We can politicize the "how". But no human being can ever argue the "what" without being inhuman. Its that simple.
Maybe a restating of the poll question is order.
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Fri Dec-17-04 07:19 PM
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28. Very business friendly across the board, so moderate. |
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It would save businesses of all sizes from the expense of providing health insurance benefits completely.
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Sat Dec-18-04 02:26 AM
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31. It's truly the most 'pro-life' one can be |
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pro life and pro-quality-of-life.
In order to enjoy one's constitutional right to 'pursuit of happiness', one needs to be healthy.
ergo...
Denying healthcare to all Americans is unconstitutional.
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