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EQPlayer Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 08:49 AM
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Mark Warner -- is he term limited?
I read somewhere that Mark Warner was term limited as governor of Virginia. I thought he had only served one term, but maybe I was wrong. Would appreciate if anyone could shed some light. And does he have Presidential aspirations? I'd much rather see him run based on the information I can get on him instead of just about anyone else currently mentioned.

Thanks!
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 08:50 AM
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1. I believe that is true.
Edited on Sun Dec-19-04 08:51 AM by tasteblind
I think you can only serve a term at a time in VA, though I haven't looked up the law.

And thank God too. Gilmore and Allen were nightmares.

On edit: And I agree, Mark Warner is the cream of the crop for 2008, not that there's any reason to believe there will be an election for President in 2008.
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s-cubed Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 10:20 AM
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2. Yes, VA allows only one four year term for governor. Kaine is
the likely democratic nominee.
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EQPlayer Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 10:37 AM
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3. So what plans does Mark Warner have?
Any word on what he plans to do in 2002 and later? Has he indicated an interest in running for President?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 10:41 AM
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5. you mean 2006 ?
i imagine he will go around the country and campaign for and raise money for democrats who will be running for elections in 2006.

and if he plans to run for president he goes into 2007 to start his primary campaign.
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 09:27 PM
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31. There is some good info on Warner in this thread.
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livinginphotographs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 10:39 AM
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4. The key to the law is two CONSECUTIVE terms...
Just being picky here. ;)

He can't serve two terms consecutively, but he can sit out for four years then run again.

It's funny how this rule applies to political decisions: when Jim Gilmore decided to bankrupt the state with that "No Car Tax" crap, he put forth a five-year plan, knowing he'd only serve for four. So in the fifth year, he leaves Warner to clean up the mess. Much like Clinton, now the Virginia republicans can blame Warner for the mess.

Yet one more reason I'd like to see him take George Allen's seat in the Senate, kind of like a snub to the whole Allen-Gilmore legacy.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 10:46 AM
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6. He's PNAC/DLC
so I imagine he'll work hard getting Republicans elected as Democrats.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 02:31 PM
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9. pure crap
Warner has been a great governor and is very popular. He cleaned up the financial mess and is now proposing more money for education and health care, while cutting the sales tax on groceries. He's a great Democrat. He's a former state party chair. But I guess he doesn't pass your bullshit ideological purity test.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 03:41 PM
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12. Anybody who calls themselves a member of the DLC (aka PNAC/DLC)
is a REpublican, IMO.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 03:59 PM
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13. I guess Clinton was a Republican too
Its pure crap what people like you are trying to do. We need to build a broad coalition. Not impose some sort of ideological purity test to be in the party.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 05:26 PM
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15. Clinton was the best Republican president in recent memory
Yes.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 05:31 PM
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17. whatever
Clinton was a good Democratic president. No sense of continuing this discussion. Your need for ideological purity would be the death nell for the Party.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 05:41 PM
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18. All I ask is that Democrats be Democrats
instead of being Republicans.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 07:14 PM
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22. and you deem yourself
to be the ultimate arbiter of that. Clinton was a Democrat. Warner is a Democrat. Yet you seek to throw both of them out of the party.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 08:56 PM
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24. I'm through compromising core principles and movin to the right
Turn it arund or give it up. I've been a lifelong Democrat who voted straight Democratic tickets for more than two decades.

No more. The PNACDLC is forcing the Democratic Party to leave me.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 09:00 PM
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25. whatever
Its pure bullshit, but do whatever you need to do. I prefer to have a party that welcomes everyone who would like to be a Democrat. Just because people don't agree with me on every issue doesn't mean they aren't Democrats.

Clinton did a world of good for this country. But you say he's not a Democrat. Its bullshit and you know it.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 09:05 PM
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26. whatever
If it makes you feel good keeping the Republicratic-Democans in power, have fun.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 09:08 PM
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27. bullshit
there is a world of difference between even moderate democrats and Republicans. Only an idiot can't see that.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 09:12 PM
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29. Bullshit back at you
I see no difference between DLC PNACers and RNC PNACers.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 09:28 PM
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32. then you are not being honest
Mark Warner got the Virginia legislature to rescind idiotic tax cuts in order to fund education, health care and other social services. YOu think there was no difference between Clinton and Bush.

Clinton raised taxes on the wealthy, Bush cut taxes on the wealth. Clinton protected social security and Medicare. Bush is trying to end these programs. Clinton expanded health care for children and made college more affordable. Bush reversed those things. Clinton fought to protect Abortion rights. Bush has already scaled them back. This is just the start.

Yeah right. No difference at all.
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 06:06 PM
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20. Huh?
Most people I know are still pissed at Warner for shutting down the DMVs. For a while there, it was like being in the old Soviet Union.....4-5 hour waits in the cold just to get in the building, with lots of armed guards there to "keep us in line".
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 08:01 PM
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23. his approval rating
is in the high 60s. The stuff he did with the dmv's was very smart. It demonstrated the state of the fiscal crisis. This was instrumental in getting Republicans to pass real tax reform and fight with each other over the shape of that reform. The state is in good financial health now. Compare that to Maryland, which has a huge structural gap because Ehrlich won't do anything but talk about slots.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 03:37 PM
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10. Any proof to back up this claim? I'm sure you wouldn't..
Edited on Sun Dec-19-04 03:39 PM by Kahuna
accuse a Democrat of being PNAC without any proof. I await...
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 03:40 PM
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11. Point 1, the DLC supports PNAC
Point 2, Warner is a member of the PNAC/DLC.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 04:16 PM
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14. Yes, he's DLC, and I think he'd be a GREAT president!
Edited on Sun Dec-19-04 04:20 PM by wyldwolf
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 05:27 PM
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16. Fine, if he runs, you can vote for him
while another Republican wins, either way it goes.

I won't. If they're DLC, no fucking way.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 05:52 PM
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19. ok
Thank you!
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 09:12 PM
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28. he's not a Republican
in any way. He's a good Democrat and he's been a great governor.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:21 PM
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7. More info for you
http://warner2008.blogspot.com/

He hasn't come out and said what he's going to do when his term is up. Rumors are either a Senate run or a Presidential bid.

I think he would be a great choice for either.

He could WIN. That's important.
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EQPlayer Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 01:06 PM
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8. Thanks for the link
I may have to go get the bumper sticker and learn more about him. I'm sick of running unexciting candidates who can't appeal to half the country (even if it's because that half had been brainwashed by Fox News). Is Warner a fighter? If he's willing to go toe-to-toe with the Repuke slime machine, he's my man in 2008!
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 06:07 PM
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21. I dunno....
I have doubts he'd win Virginia....
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Kyle Reese Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 09:14 PM
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30. He's nasaly and stiff.
Edited on Sun Dec-19-04 09:26 PM by Kyle Reese
He doesn't really sound like he's from Virginia.

I'd go with Bayh, Edwards or Clark.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 10:12 PM
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33. Are you kidding?
Go to the cspan archives and look up his DNC speech. Besides that, he's a popular governor in a state where he had to raise taxes. He's also very moderate and a much better choice than bayh or Edwards.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 10:16 PM
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34. raised taxes
but got the Republicans to fight with each other on how to do it. It was a thing of beauty. He's got mad skillz.
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