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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 06:47 AM
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Wanna read what sick sociopathic morans freepers really are?
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 06:58 AM by LynnTheDem
This is an email from last year, chock-full of absurdities, total bullshit, and an amazing denigration of our troops' deaths, from a freeper sent to the Iraq Coalition Casualty Count, a site which keeps track of all US & "coalition" forces casualties, through the publicly released DoD and Centcom notices;


Bernard Kerik would like you to know that you are aiding the enemy who is watching as Americans opposed to the war hype casualties in an effort to hurt morale and undermine the will of the American people and the longsuffering Iraqis, and allow the dead-enders - the guys who did things like burn babies alive in front of their parents to get them to obey, and fed critics to their zoo lions - for 30 years, back into power.

You might want to add a bit of perspective to your page if you don't mean to help some serious bad guys take down Western Civilization - like the fact that there were more casualties from a porch accident in Chicago the last 2 weeks in July, than in Iraq - or that we suffer so few casualties weekly that a car accident skews the totals, or that there were often more deaths in one week during the Vietnam War than our troops have suffered in TWO YEARS of combined operations in Iraq and Afghanistan that toppled two of the most inhuman regimes in history.

If you don't add perspective, your casualty count is misleading, deceptive, dishonest - a lie. It also DOES aid our enemies.

~

(http)://www.freerepublic.com/~ragtimecowgirl

What an incredibly ignorant, incredibly stupid, incredibly vile freeping rightwingnut.

My message to ragtimecowgirl; go die for your bush-god's lies, and we'll make sure your name never gets added to the ICC list.

Deal?

Notice the referance to BERNARD KERIK? WTF was that all about...
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 06:52 AM
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1. Much of what she quotes as what was done to Iraqis...
Comes from the well-spun yarns of a Mrs. Hanna, a woman who has been shown to be a full-on liar. Unequivocaly so.

Ain't they just the cutest little pinheads?
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 06:57 AM
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4. I'm surprised she didn't mention the babies/incubators lie...
Even Dan Senor had the balls to resurrect that lie last spring in an interview w/ CNN...:eyes:
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 06:54 AM
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That crap is so jumbled up with distortion and lies its no wonder they are
misguided and confused. They claim to support the troops by sending them to their deaths for a war they can't even explain.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 06:54 AM
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2. This post shows brainwashing and ignorance
All other wars posted casualty lists. Folks who have lost loved ones want them to be remembered. This site does this. It doesn't "aid the enemy", as I'm sure the "enemy" knows about how many people have been killed and has not only statistics but photos posted.

The poster is also brainwashed as to the number and extent of casualties. Does she even know how many soldiers have been seriously injured, maimed, or psychologically damaged by this conflict?
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:23 AM
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7. why doesn't she sign up and go if it's so safe.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 06:56 AM
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3. And notice the BERNARD KERIK referance...
What, stop counting or he'll sick the MOB on the ICC??? :eyes:

This email was from LAST YEAR, btw.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:19 AM
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5. And Bernard Kerik is NOT in Iraq. Why?
If lives are so inconsequential, why not offer Kerik's to the service of our nation?

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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:08 AM
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6. False...
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 11:11 AM by SOS
"there were often more deaths in one week during the Vietnam War than our troops have suffered in TWO YEARS of combined operations in Iraq and Afghanistan"

The US "often" had 1,000 battle deaths per week in Vietnam, according to this woefully misinformed right-winger. Leaving right-wing fantasyland for a moment, here are the real numbers:

US Military battle deaths by year:

Prior to 1966 - 3,078 (Total up through 31 Dec 65)
1966 - 5,008
1967 - 9,378
1968 - 14, 589
1969 - 9,414
1970 - 4,221
1971 - 1,381
1972 - 300

Source: Southeast Asia Statistical Summary, Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense

Worst year was 1968 with an average of 281 dead per week.

Can't right-wingers perform even the most rudimentary research? These correct figures took about two minutes to find.


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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:43 PM
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12. Further research
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 12:53 PM by SOS
shows that the single worst week for American forces in Vietnam was during the Tet offensive of 1968. The week was May 5-11, 1968 with 616 Americans killed.
Contrary to the right-wingers assertion, there were never 1,000 battle deaths in one week in Vietnam, let alone "often".
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:25 AM
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8. I love how these people never put terrorism "in perspective"
50,000 dead every year in car accidents.

3,000 dead on 9/11. And that's the worst it's ever been, by far.

So why are we wasting billions on something that's statistically less significant than solveable problems? :shrug:
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:05 PM
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9. Exactly!
Every time they try to denigrate and marginalize troop deaths, I tell them to do the same to the 3000 killed on 911 (500 of whom weren't even American so of course they don't count!)

And of course they start spitting & foaming at the mouth & calling me every name in the book, with "traitor" being every second word.

How DO freeping rightwingnuts manage to live past infancy???
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:21 PM
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10. More "perspective"
It's unbelievable to me HOW MUCH in the media you are FORBIDDEN to suggest that the "threat" from "international terrorists" isn't really that great.

But what's the threat?

Let's start with 9/11 - if it wasn't for ONE MAN (Bin Laden) - 9/11 wouldn't have happened. PERIOD.

(and that man remains free and alive, but that's another story)

The point that I would like to make is how, if there WERE a terrorist threat, it has blown many chances on quite a few Superbowls, 4th of July Celebrations, New Year "Rockin" Eves, Christmases, National Monuments & tourist attractions, Financial Districts, Oil Refineries, food & water supplies, etc, etc, etc.

Is that because we're protecting them now? BULL!

Listen: If someone was willing to *commit suicide* to wreak havoc to ANY of the above targets, they *could* have done so. Even a FAILED ATTEMPT would bring the Superbowl to a close before kickoff and the "message" would have been "sent". There's simply no stopping someone willing to die trying. Look at Israel, for crying out loud, you have to pass through a metal detector to go food shopping, but that doesn't stop it from happening.

The point is that there was 9/11, and THAT'S IT. All the rest of this is hype.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:40 PM
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11. Accidents ARE NO ONE's fault. The Iraq War is Bush's fault!
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