You know you are doing something immoral when...

[LynnTheDem]

-- When you live in a country that has established international rules for waging a just war, build the United Nations on your own soil to enforce them, and then arrogantly break the very rules you set down for the rest of the world, you are doing something immoral.

-- When you find a way to avoid combat in Vietnam, and then question the patriotism of someone who volunteered to fight, and came home a hero, you are doing something immoral.

-- When you wink at the torture of prisoners, and deprive so-called "enemy combatants" of the rules of the Geneva convention, which your own country helped to establish and insists that other countries follow, you are doing something immoral.

-- When you claim that the world can be divided up into the good guys and the evil doers, slice up your own nation into those who are with you, or with the terrorists -- and then launch a war which enriches your own friends and seizes control of the oil to which we are addicted, instead of helping us to kick the habit, you are doing something immoral.

This country is bankrupt. The war is morally bankrupt. The claim of this administration to be Christian is bankrupt.

-Dr. Robin Meyers, Minister of the Mayflower Congregational Church, Oklahoma City

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x92789

[rkc3]

1. How about adding...

When you claim to be the party of Christian values and hire a man who believes torture is acceptable - then you're doing something immoral.

[elehhhhna]

2. Only half the country's bankrupt. We're just the co-signers.

[4_TN_TITANS]

3. Of course I agree....

But, what's appalling is that these TRUTHS somehow fall under the radar of right wing-nut jobs. The conservative right should be howling for W's impeachment louder than we are, but they aren't. I guess it's more important to support someone who claims to have "values" than someone who actually exhibits values.

[ktowntennesseedem]

4. The "values" of the right are, as they say, "all hat & no cattle"

The only values they prize are those that make themselves look better in their own eyes and allow them to point condemning fingers at anyone with "lesser" values. Forget the fact that others might simply have different values; to the right, different values equals no values. Just like their Commander in Thief, everything is simpler when its all black & white, up & down, us & them, etc.

The irony in all this, also way above their heads, is that the one they profess to follow as Christians had some pretty strong words for the hypocrites of his time. I can't imagine Jesus feeling any differently toward the Pharisees that are running the show in America these days.

[wadechinoy]

5. A 9/11 Petition - Please sign it and pass the link on!

http://www.sibelpetition.com

Former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds and I are working hard to get
the petition signed on line. The petition can now be found at www.sibelpetition.com
and we would GREATLY appreciate your signing it and posting it on Web sites.
Also, another and more important task we are undertaking
is getting as many people as we can to contact their Congressional
reps to release the report.

So many people immediately think "conspiracy theory." On the contrary, Sibel has
crucial information about 9/11 confirmed by the FBI that Ashcroft has unjustly deemed
classifiable due to national security reasons, but a ranking Dem senator (Leahy)
AND a ranking Repub senator (Grassley) who have met with Sibel and seen the
information first-hand have both written to Ashcroft several times expressing
their opinions that the information is only being covered up to avoid embarrassment for the administration.

It's also unfortunate that so many people in the country want to support us but
are afraid to simply sign the petition for fear of retribution. Is this America?
Everything Sibel has done so far has been through Congress and the legal system
(she testified for 3 hours in front of the 9/11 commission in a secure room and
has several lawsuits pending) and she has done nothing but exercise her rights
as an American citizen. Those very rights are what are at stake here, as well as
national security since many of those involved in events that led to 9/11 are
still free.

The 9/11 family groups have been rallying behind Sibel through the process--you
can imagine that they want those people and countries who are responsible for
the attacks and those who let it happen held accountable. They are truly the
ones for whom I am putting in this effort.

Thank you.

Wade Chinoy

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6. completed, would like to see everyone here at DU sign this petition

[wadechinoy]

7. THANK YOU! Pass on the link if you can and post it to sites if u can

[Karenina]

8. You GO, girl!

:loveya: