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Fri Dec-24-04 03:31 PM
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What should Al Gore have done after Supreme Court decision ? |
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After the Supremes ruled in favor of George W Bush, 5 to 4, what could Al Gore have done as his next step? I know there are a lot of people that argue that Gore did not "fight" hard enough but after the recent surrendering debacle, Al Gore looks like Rocky Marciano, in my opinion. But realistically, what else could Gore have done?
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Fri Dec-24-04 03:45 PM
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1. Wellstone should have been the ONE Senator to sign for the ..... |
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recount so it would never have gotten that far. I love him and miss him and will always wonder why he didn't
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Fri Dec-24-04 04:00 PM
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2. It was 7 to 2, not 5 to 4... |
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Fri Dec-24-04 04:18 PM
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The 7-2 decision was to insist that Florida use a uniform standard in counting votes. The 5-4 partisan decision was deliberately timed so they would not have any ability to do so.
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Sat Dec-25-04 06:04 AM
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17. Who would determine the recount policy? |
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Courts are courts, they don't make policy. County election commissions carry out policy, they don't set policy. Other than the Fl State Legislature, I don't see any 'statewide' policy making boards. I just don't think that the legislature would have acted, to rewite the rules.
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Fri Dec-24-04 04:06 PM
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3. Gore should have proclaimed the election as well as the SCOTUS frauds |
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and called for mass demonstrations in every street in every city.
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Fri Dec-24-04 04:26 PM
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Essentially, The SCOTUS was the end of the line, legally. He didn't really have much other recourse.
Now, I was disappointed that he didn't talk that much about the disenfranchisement of Black voters in Florida--people who went to the polls to overwhelming vote for him.
But it's hard to know what was going on in his mind at the time.
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Fri Dec-24-04 04:35 PM
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6. First time this question was asked right. Gore is a good guy. He fought. |
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Edited on Fri Dec-24-04 04:36 PM by robbedvoter
I would have voted for him had the kerry's cabal not kicked him out of the race.
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Fri Dec-24-04 04:35 PM
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7. led a band of insurgents into the hills of Maryland |
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and launched sporadic raids into Washington, rocketing and mortaring the "green zone" around 1600
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Fri Dec-24-04 04:57 PM
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I don't think we have a court higher than the Supreme Court.
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Fri Dec-24-04 06:52 PM
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The court had no constitutional authority to do what it did. He should have declared the court decision to be illegitimate and treated it as the constitutional crisis that it was. He should have kept fighting until it went to Congress, which is where the issue should have been resolved. He could have lobbied a Senator to join the protest.
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Fri Dec-24-04 06:55 PM
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10. "..declared the court decision to be illegitimate..." ??? |
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The Supreme Court????????
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Fri Dec-24-04 07:01 PM
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11. Yep. They were acting outside their authority |
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No one should have recognized it. The court has been ignored before. Nowhere does the Constitution give the SC the authority to decide a Presidential election dispute in that way. It is clearly the role of the Congress, as it has done in the past.
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Fri Dec-24-04 07:10 PM
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12. He wouldn't have to had to lobby a senator to join the protest... |
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Edited on Fri Dec-24-04 07:11 PM by Hippo_Tron
At least 10 of them would've protested if he hadn't told them not to.
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Fri Dec-24-04 07:18 PM
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Sat Dec-25-04 01:26 AM
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16. Russ Feingold talked about it in an interview |
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He said that Gore had decided to concede the election after the SCOTUS had ruled on it, and thus asked senators not to join the CBC in contesting the Florida votes.
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Fri Dec-24-04 07:47 PM
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14. Al Gore did the right thing |
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I thought Al Gore made a mistake about not contesting in the House in 2000 but now I think he made the right decision. Why? I don't like the way House has been handling the recount issue of the 2004 election with Conyers. Why? Well, Kerry basically lost and Conyers knows that the House is not going to do anything about the BBV machines now or ever so it just builds up peoples expectations.
I think the thing to do is like what Gore wanted to do was to just accept the defeat and let the nation heal.
At this point though I am not a lawyer only politicians running for office can demand that the junk BBV machines be changed or the system changed to paper ballot.
The DNC should break its policy of picking the DEM to run for 2008 around 2007 to now or this Monday, and for me the two best people to run in 2008 are Former President Gore and General Clark. It would be nice if they would have a special election and let us the people decide whom we should consider whom we want to run in 2008 and not Rove's DLC.
Well anyway, it could take up to four years for the Dem running in 2008 to do all the discovery and the lawsuits that they would need to expose the vote fraud scandal. So the Dem party needs to pick someone now or on this coming Monday and stop depending on Conyers and Moore to help us, when both of them have no power or authority to make any of the changes that need to be done.
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Sat Dec-25-04 12:20 AM
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15. Keep a high profile, speak out again * admin, prepare for a run in 2K |
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I think he did all he could until the SCOTUS decision but he should not of ran for the hills. He could have been a serious contender in 2004.
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Sat Dec-25-04 08:40 AM
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18. knocked the hell out of HAVA |
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Gore is a self-proclaimed tech wiz so he should have sounded the alarm about paperless vote-stealing machines as soon as the Bush admin started buying them. Hell he should have sounded the alarm in '92.
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Sat Dec-25-04 10:15 AM
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19. He should have become a "Shadow President" |
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Edited on Sat Dec-25-04 10:16 AM by InvisibleBallots
He should have made it clear that the election was stolen, and he should have taken every opportunity to expose what Bush was doing while in office. After 911 he should have called for Bush's immediate resignation. And if that would have been too "controversial" after Bush allowed us to be attacked on 911, the least he could have done was call for National Security Ignorer Condasleeper Rice to be fired.
He should have kept the beard while doing it too, the symbolism was excellent.
Instead, he decided to "play it safe" possibily thinking he was rescuing his future political career. Obviously a mistake, because he is now (probably) forever marginalized.
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Sat Dec-25-04 01:29 PM
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20. Told to the TRUTH. This was a rigged decision by political hacks. |
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I understand his motivation, preserve comity and civil order. There is never a time to not tell the TRUTH about critical issues. People are sick to death of lies, to wit the majority who disbelieve the Warren Commission and the majority of New Yorkers who think 911 was a domestic aided plot. Will we ever have a leader who just lays it out. Kennedy did it regarding the Bay of Pigs but no one since trusts the American people enough to simply tell them what they see and what's going on.
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Sat Dec-25-04 01:48 PM
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21. It was rape and Al should still be screaming |
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