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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 10:16 PM
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World feels bullied by Washington
Edited on Fri Dec-24-04 10:17 PM by ailsagirl
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 10:23 PM
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1. Maybe they already are..............
Here's some food for thought. The world seems to be bucking the PNAC Plan. The world will not take us on directly, but you can bet tht the war can and will be fought in the trading pits and world trade strategies.

Here's a very interesting article that should make the most beliicose stop and ponder the future.........

I agree, and there is another security dimension at play here in SA that should sober up the pro-warriors... from jmcgowanjm's post in this other thread.....



On 10 November 2004, the India Daily reported that,
"Russian President Putin is taking a lead role in the
most powerful coalition of regional and superpowers in
the world. The coalition consists of India, China, Russia
and Brazil. This will challenge the superpower supremacy
of America." … "He wants to establish a long-
term Russian footprint in Latin America in order to
expand Moscow's geopolitical influence in the region. Brazil
is very open to the coalition concept where these large
countries support each other in term of trade,
economics, international politics and defense."

Just this single strategic move means that the
new coalition embraces just over three quarters of the
world's total population, eighty percent of its natural
resources, and a majority of technical and scientific
experts.

What absolutely no one outside Russia and Venezuela
knew until two weeks ago, is that 20 of the fifty Mig 29 SMTs
are fully equipped to carry and fire the devastating SS-N-25
"Onyx", a devastating and
completely unstoppable Mach 2.9 ramjet anti-ship cruise
missile which skims the waves at twenty feet, before delivering
a knock out blow to its maritime target more than 200
kilometers away.

So great is the kinetic energy at the point of impact on
the target, that Onyx can sink an American aircraft carrier
or supertanker using only a conventional penetrating
warhead. Those scientists who might doubt this
should calculate the impact energy of 5,500 pounds of
missile striking a carrier or tanker at a terminal velocity of
2,460 feet per second. It is understood that Russia is
providing Venezuela with a stockpile of forty anti-ship
Onyx missiles.

Concurrently on the other side of the world, more
pieces of the strategic jigsaw were falling into place, and on
2 December 2004 the Asia Times published "China Rocks
the Geopolitical Boat with Iran Oil Deal", which is probably one
of the top stories of the century.

America is already desperately short of energy, and it
can only get worse. Iraq is producing nothing at all as usual,
and the Republican Guard will ensure it stays that way.
OPEC will slow down production in January because it
actually has to. If the OPEC countries keep pumping at
their present outrageous rates to please America, they
will eventually destroy their own economies by
terminally damaging their producing wells. or face
devastating and total economic ruin.

http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/11-10-04.asp
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 10:34 PM
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2. Thank you for the insight
Edited on Fri Dec-24-04 10:36 PM by ailsagirl
I'm glad the rest of the world isn't as blind as so many in this country apparently are. And there ARE ways for the rest of the world to disengage (as you pointed out)... without (I hope) raising the hackles of these goons. It's as if the inmates are running the asylum and it's downright frightening.

And having an equally corrupt, complicit media doesn't help. Thank God for the Internet!!!

I can't remember what it was like NOT having that pretender "in charge"

I wonder if we'll ever have an uncorrupt administration again??
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 10:52 PM
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4. Perhaps if the chickenhawks-in-charge have bothered to serve
when it was their time....perhaps they'd have a different perspective on starting wars for profit and power.

The rest of the world has felt the ugly scars and devestation of 20th century warfare firsthand. If our cities and country had been the battleground for a world war, I think we'd have a different nationalstic attitude about wars of occupation for natural resources.

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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 02:25 AM
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7. Interesting piece.
Nobody denies there are threats to our national security in the world. Ineptitude at the top level has us chasing fictional dangers while the real ones grow. There has to be a reckoning at some point.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 07:19 AM
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10. alas, we are all gonna be paying for that reckoning
even those of us who can clearly see what is happening
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 04:11 AM
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8. Anybody with access to Jane's
more than just the little blip for non-subscribers to get info on ONYX?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 10:42 PM
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3. Accordingly,
"The Old Europe faces Bush anew," the French newspaper Le Figaro headlined over an editorial imploring Bush's second administration to be more conciliatory than his first. France and Germany, which tangled the most fiercely with Washington over the U.S.-led war in Iraq, "greet Bush's second mandate with prudence and suspicion," columnist Luc de Barochez said."

Trent Lott said don't believe a word of it! LOL!!
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 11:16 PM
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5. And so the groundwork for WWIII is laid... not because of terrorists,
not because of freedom, not because of democracy or the lack of it... but because of money, oil and greed. Anyone who tells you anything else is lying, whether he be pResident or a president's pawn.
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HuskiesHowls Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 11:18 PM
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6. The US no longer is the chief negotiator
Blair begins Mideast peace push
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/12/22/mideast.blair.ap/

Iran's offer to suspend uranium enrichment would only apply for the duration of talks with the EU.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4054069.stm

The days of the US as a superpower are numbered......
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 07:16 AM
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9. The World also
.. feels bullied by the American people, now that Bush apparently has the majority of them behind him.

Because of that, it is VITAL to get the dissenting voices (as those from DU) across, to show that there's a welcoming, open and multilateral America as well.

I'm producing a lot of material for Norwegian web communities to forward this point of view, as the 'politically uninterested' are prone to just turn their back on a USA as being one big sack of hippocrit megalomaniacs.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 12:16 PM
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11. Good for you
Think the world is in shock at Bush winning 2004 (oops maybe I shouldnt say winning haha).
And yes the world dont think much about Us rant now look at how the UN give Kofi Annan a standing ovation.
If thats is not a kick in Bush face over his call for his resignation and his allegation on corrupted UN oil for food programn I dont know what is.
Or even US bid to replace the UN chairman for the atomic watchdog.
BRIC is form after the Bush got another 4 years.
All countries are rushing to form join protection pact, I wonder who they trying to protect themself from.
The next Bush attack on another country will be very bad for US.
Bush might be the president of the most powerful country in the world
but in dont mean shit when the world have enough of his nonsense.
Hopefully he has enough brains to see all the sign on the wall.
What am I doing here ?? Cause I am scared stiff of the way things are going. I am watching and praying for the success of the people of US to win this battle against this insanity and madness. We only need I mad ass to start a world war. Hilter did it. I hope it wont happen agin for the sake of all the people in this world and their children for I have no doubt that nuclear weapon will be used if it does happen.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 01:06 PM
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12. Thank you SO MUCH
for your post. Gänsehaut hab' ich nun.

Welcome to DU! :toast:
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