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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 12:12 PM
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The real "Hate" Party and what it has done to America...
Listening to C-SPAN this morning, I could not help but notice the callous and inhumane nature of certain callers. This is not an attempt to generalize but to point out attitudes that have become commonplace in our nature.

There are people, for whatever reasons, that think the "Muslims" should take care of "those people" over there that are suffering. They always turn to America. We give more than any other country in the world, they say. No sense of humanity amongst them.

In my opinion, these attitudes have been nurtured and promoted by right-wing radio and have become dominant in the Republican Party. They have no problem with spending $40 million on the Bush inauguration but $15 million is too much to help their fellow man?

It is embarrassing that so many people believe like this. But it is sad that they are now in control of our country. The "Hate" Party is dominant.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 12:15 PM
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1. True -- and they invoke "moral values" and Jesus as they spout hate
That's what gets me -- the sanctimonious, self-righteous, hypocritical claims of moral superiority along with the finger-pointing at 'Evul Libruls.'
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 12:20 PM
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2. This is the kind of thing that depresses me
This is the real crisis in America, the one from which so many of our other problems stem.

Thanks to the mass media, we are turning into a nation of ignorant-and-proud-of-it, xenophobic, selfish, bigoted, reflexively angry, ill-mannered, hedonistic, chauvinistic, passive-aggressive jerks. :scared:

I fear that we will have to endure a "payback" that is not what the End Times cultists are envisioning but which will be horrible for the guilty and innocent alike.
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 12:49 PM
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9. In that case, * really is one of their own...
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passy Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 12:22 PM
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3. There is no fellow man anymore, just Us and them.
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passy Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 12:24 PM
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4. There is no fellow man anymore, just Us and them.
Are we in the process of dehumanizing Muslims like Hitler did with the Germans and the Jews.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 12:50 PM
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10. Muslims, homosexuals, and it won't stop there.
Edited on Tue Dec-28-04 12:50 PM by iconoclastic cat
I'm just waiting for re-segregation trial balloon to go up.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 12:27 PM
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5. Being given permission to hate is very seductive
as too much of our history has shown. When the Nazis came in to Poland and said it was OK to hate Jews, people who had been good neighbors for decades turned on their Jewish neighbors and became worse than the Nazis. In the Balkans, Milosevic said it was OK for Christians to hate Muslims, and people whose families had been close friends for centuries suddenly became deadly enemies. It's also been proven in social science experiments, when classes were divided into arbitrary groups and one group was told they were superior.

Give a man a joyless life with no hope of a better future, then give him permission to hate. He'll do it every time.

Christians always make the mistake of thinking the Antichrist is a single person. It isn't. It's a mindset, one that we're seeing right now.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 12:30 PM
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6. Excellent point about the Anti-Christ, Warpy...
imo...
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 12:34 PM
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7. My image of the anti-christ looks like GWBush.
But he could just be the face associated with the mindset.
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keith the dem Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 12:46 PM
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8. The ME generation
Even their twisted form of Kristianity is only about their own relationship with god (except for pointing out the sin in others)
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 01:01 PM
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11. Example of a Repug "Christian"
At the local convenience store I saw a newspaper headline that over 22,000 died from the tsunami. I said I just heard on the radio that there are now at least 40,000 believed dead. This guy behind me said he couldn't care less about them, the thing worries him is some A-rab
planting a bomb over here. I watched him pull out with his $40,000 diesel Dodge pickup, it had the Jesus fish decal and a W04 sticker.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 01:03 PM
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12. Perfect example...
:shrug: and dangerous to us all.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 01:21 PM
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13. Check out this gem from the CommonDreams website. . .
"Heart Problem" by David Potorti

(The author lost his brother in the 9/11 attacks)

Link:
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1227-32.htm

(snip)
"...When we launched September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows in February 2002, we held up an oversized Hallmark heart with a letter to George W. Bush attached. "Have a heart, President Bush," we asked, inviting him to create an Afghan victims' fund that would acknowledge not only the civilian victims of 9/11 but also the estimated 4,000 Afghan civilians lost to our bombing campaign. We recognized, even then, that our losses on 9/11 were just the first of a series of losses to come - a loss of our perspective, a loss of our humanity, a loss of our unity with each other and with the rest of the world.

The President never took us up on our invitation, and since that day the rising body count of Americans, Afghans and Iraqis has been accompanied by a marked absence of heart in our national character. You see it in our perpetual denial of reality--not just political reality, or fiscal reality, but human reality: a stubborn resistance to acknowledging the human suffering resulting from our choices since 9/11. Military coffins hidden from view of cameras. Suffering children unacknowledged from Kabul to Kansas City to Baghdad. Alleged enemy combatants "disappeared" without due process. Torture denied. Families destroyed. Everywhere, hearts broken. And always, we try to deny the pain.

Americans using Vioxx, Celebrex and Aleve recently learned that these drugs taken to avoid pain may actually increase their risk of heart attack. It's an interesting notion: in seeking to avoid pain, we damage our hearts. In denying pain, we turn off a piece of our humanity..."

(snip)

much more...




:bounce:
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 01:58 PM
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17. "In seeking to avoid pain, we damage our hearts"
Exactly so.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 01:23 PM
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14. Hypocrisy? Yes, just a bit.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 01:24 PM
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15. duplicate, sorry
Edited on Tue Dec-28-04 01:30 PM by DinahMoeHum
n/t
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 01:45 PM
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16. Christian hypocrisy's finest hour...
Phony bastards!!!!!! How dare they question MY morality???????
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MsConduct Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 02:03 PM
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18. Call me selfish, but I think money should be spent cleaning
up our own backyard. Charity begins at home after all.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 02:23 PM
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19. This isn't new stuff...They are Pharisees.
The people Christ most sternly condemned throughout his time on Earth were the Pharisees, the phony morality "conservatives" of his time.

They prayed aloud in the synagogues, when the plate came around they made a great show of how much they were giving, they constantly tried to use the minutia of the law to condemn Jesus' ministry and they were always bashing some other person as a great sinner...

I tell you, they have their reward already. They sure didn't listen to anything Jesus said.
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wormhole Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 04:45 PM
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20. as a progressive..
even I am not interested in sending aid to nations that have rejected us in the past. Hardly seems right.
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Debs Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 06:01 PM
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21. I am always interested
In alleviating suffering for my fellow man. There is only one race, the human race, you're in or you're out
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