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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 05:07 PM
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Was the CIA responsible for the intelligence failure pre Iraq?
This is from a post in the Latest News froum, but I think it deserves a thread here as well.

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"Director of Analysis Branch at the C.I.A. Is Being Removed -NYT

WASHINGTON, Dec. 28 - The head of the Central Intelligence Agency's analytical branch is being forced to step down, former intelligence officials say, opening a major new chapter in a shakeup under Porter J. Goss, the agency's chief.

The official, Jami Miscik, the agency's deputy director for intelligence, told her subordinates on Tuesday afternoon of her plan to step down on Feb. 4. A former intelligence official said that Ms. Miscik was told before Christmas that Mr. Goss wanted to make a change and that "the decision to depart was not hers."

Ms. Miscik has headed analysis at the agency since 2002, a period in which prewar assessments of Iraq and its illicit weapons, which drew heavily on C.I.A. analysis, proved to be mistaken. Even before taking charge of the C.I.A., Mr. Goss, who was a congressman, and his closest associates had been openly critical of the directorate of intelligence, saying it suffered from poor leadership and was devoting too much effort to monitoring day-to-day developments rather than broad trends.

Ms. Miscik's departure is the latest in a series of high-level ousters that have prompted unease within the C.I.A. since Mr. Goss took over as director of central intelligence in September. Of the officials who worked as top deputies to Mr. Goss's predecessor, George J. Tenet, at least a half-dozen have been fired or have retired abruptly, including the agency's No. 2 and No. 3 officials. Much of the top tier of the agency's clandestine service is also gone."

http://nytimes.com/2004/12/29/national/29intel.html?hp&ex=1104296400&en=298bf1d6514365b4&ei=5094&partner=homepage
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Well, WAS the CIA responsible for the failure of intelligence?
Here's an article from motherjones, about the fake intel unit set up inside Pentagon to cook data and present them as arguments for war:

The Lie Factory:
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2004/01/12_405.html



More:
The Misinformers
http://www.motherjones.com/news/qa/2003/04/we_352_01.html

Clueless in Langley
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2002/01/cia_langley.html

West Wing Pipe Dream
http://www.motherjones.com/news/update/2003/07/we_489_01.html

These are MoJo articles only, but there was info all over the net about how the administration was kicking out the CIA (and the military intel) to put their own people in charge.

Original post in Latest Breaking News:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1105321&mesg_id=1105912&page=

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 05:13 PM
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1. Well you answer your own question with your links
There WAS no failure of intelligence. They knew exactly what they were doing.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 05:19 PM
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2. You covered it...n/t
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 05:49 PM
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3. There was no "intelligence failure"
It was more like an idiot success.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:15 AM
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4. Bad habit to kick own thread, but...
Important issue?
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:20 AM
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5. the intelligence of the govt is the only thing that failed -
Edited on Thu Dec-30-04 08:21 AM by rman
it ignored warnings it received from intel agencies.
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