Why is the right more angry than us?

[spotbird]

They have complete control. Whatever they want they've got. They won't be prosecuted for crimes, there is no hope for Democrats influence, so they can now correct all the mistakes they think we've made, but they rage. The domestic agenda is ripe for Christian molding, the budget is theirs to bankrupt, but they are more angry than ever, why?

They have everything they want but it isn't enough, what will it take to make them happy? Ann wants the non Christian world to convert so they can open gifts at Christmas too, would that do it?

[MSgt213]

1. Because being on the Right and Angry is an art form we haven't perfected

[spotbird]

4. Hasn't anyone told them they won?

Or at least they will have another four years, and much of the population believes they won?

[MSgt213]

11. But they are thinking beyond winning. That's what we don't get the

current victory means nothing or not at least what it would have meant to us to win this one. They are thinking about total control forever. We are thinking well maybe next time. Don't look for them to give up until the country is totally destroyed by their irresponsibility.

[itzamirakul]

38. Absolutely, 100% correct!

And as you say, we (or at least those boneheads that pass as our leaders) don't get it.

On Washington Week tonight, Gwen Ifill and panel discussed the fact that the Democratic Party is divided and has no leadership.

Welll, in my book, first we have to get rid of the LEADERSHIT!

[PROGRESSIVE1]

54. 100% CORRECT!!!

[Fla Dem]

60. So right. Republican Presidents 24 years in last 36 years. And yet

they have so denomized democrats for all that they perceive is wrong in the USA, you'd think we had Democratic Presidents for all those 36 years. They are still blaming Carter(4years) and Clinton(8 Years) for everything. Or they will say it was because of the democratically controlled Senate and Congress.

They have to keep their base angry, that way their base will not see the bastards for what they truly are; rapers of the environment, opposers of equal rights and civil rights, oppressors of the middle and lower class, corporation whores, and power hungry ideologues.

[Not_Giving_Up]

2. Being angry is part of their deal

They always have to be angry about something...then they can make other people angry...Then they can blame it all on Dems.

[7th_Sephiroth]

12. no

thier anger comes from sexual impotency, closet homosexuality, and blind stupidity

[The Judged]

40. WRONG!! But what about their corrective lenses and their contact lenses?

Partially blind stupidity! Do we have a deal?

[Tony_Illinois]

3. I believe it is a deep, perhaps even unconscious,

self-loathing.

[Cats Against Frist]

45. You got it right, there

It's called "splitting and projecting." When insecure people who think in black and white are "threatened," they divide things up into simple binaries -- the good object and the bad object. Then, they project their own insecurities onto the "bad" object, which is called scapegoating, and they let it whip them all up.

Everyone knows that all humans have the capacity to be really wonderful (yes, even Republicans) and real assholes (yes, even Democrats) and that the human psyche is a complex place filled with lots of nature and nurture, and there is no "evil" person or "perfect" person. Many conservatives -- particularly the reactionaries -- who tend to think in black and white have a hard time understanding this, due to this simple binary, "totalitarian" mindset.

It explains why they're always accusing us of being things or displaying characteristics that they obviously display, themselves, such as anger/hatred/division, etc. They're projecting onto us -- and not just their negative feelings, but also rationalization for their own failures, fears and weaknesses. It's an ugly, ugly thing.

[Career Prole]

5. Their leaders and their propaganda ministers keep them roiled.

It's central to their plan.

[snippy]

14. You are right.

If the people making up the republican base are not manipulated into angry hatred on a daily basis the possibility exists that they would begin to wonder about whether they are being exploited by the republican party. And if the republican base ever realized that democrats are virtually powerless on the national level they might begin to hold republicans responsible for what the government does. The leadership of the republican party does not want that.

[Mist]

31. I think that's it

Plus, they're totally drunk on self-righteousness.

[ElectroPrincess]

46. Oh that so true lulu my dear ; )

You just nailed it IMHO with the following:

Right Wing Christians are "totally drunk on self-righteousness"

It's like heroin for their ego. The more they get the more they want because THEY'RE BETTER. <cough>

Disgusting isn't it?

My best advice is to "act" just as outraged. A couple of months ago a fellow Christian said, point blank before a church meeting, "I just HATE everything about John Kerry." I immediately retorted, "That's exactly how I feel about George W. Bush. Honestly, let's not talk politics in a place of worship because it can get ugly?" I received a few curt looks but it was a good (dare I use this term) "preemptive strike." LOL

Truth is, it would be easy to HATE everything about GW Bush but I fight that feeling and despise his actions instead.

My point: To effectively counter the RW, us thoughtful Liberals must reach down real deep and "act" to express as much moral outrage and seeming self-righteousness at each confrontation. No, it ain't pretty and also tempting to *give-into* the hate spewing from such reactions. However, it's absolutely necessary IF we wish to dampen their sheer hatred of all beings NOT like them.

Try the above once - harsh retorts to Right Wingers. You'll discover that they'll fold like a cheap suit. LOL

[ixion]

6. reacting in anger to anything 'unknown' is a common reaction

and since rethugs don't know much about anything, they're scared of everything, and that manifests in anger.

[bucknaked]

7. Conservatives just aren't happy unless their mad.

I swear, they search high and low to find things to whine about; perfect example being the whole Merry Christmas vs. Happy Holidays temper-tantrum they threw this past season.

They simply thrive on complaining. Hell, they made an industry of it (talk radio).

[dogman]

8. It's their paranoia about holding their gains.

They need complete irrevocable control. They will never be happy because they have a hole in their soul. That's why the RW evangelicals are able to hold them with their offer of eternal bliss. What's funny is they think young Muslims are insane for dying for the sake of martyrdom

[Vanje]

9. Anger is all they've got

The whole modern rightwing movement is based on a warped "righteous anger"
That is what defines them.

They know its real because they can feel it physically.
It emerges as spasm in their guts from nerve impulse from the deepest level of the reptilian brainstem, unencumbered and unsullied from any impulse from the higher hemispheres.

[Warren DeMontague]

10. Deep frustration related to unsatisfying-- or nonexistent-- sex lives.

...Next question?

[peacebird]

15. bless you for that freerepublic Abstinence Only bit - ROFLMAO!!!

[TayTay]

13. Angry because they won

The vast majority of the Rethug machine is geared to getting people to vote against their personal interests. It worked and the Rethugs are firmly in control. Changes to make things better for middle and lower class citizens will not happen and this will breed more anger. The Rethug deflection of this anger from Rethuglicans to liberals and Democrats has been amazingly effective. (They have been playing this tune for years. It has worked. It needs to stop and the lies have to be exposed. This might also take years.)

I do wonder how long this can go on. There have been some amazing Democratic successes this year in the American West and those successes were earned by putting a mirror up to the anger myths and showing them for what they were. This can be done. It remains to be seen if it will be done.

[Demit]

16. Justification. They need to justify what they're saying; acting outraged,

they think, will make it more believable to others, and to themselves as well. That's why they have to keep repeating the same memes, like the Clinton stuff--gotta keep up that level of outrage, in case it starts to flag.

[GOPFighter]

17. Good question

Fear and paranoia. Their leaders just keep fueling the fire. It works wonders for fundraising!

[harper]

18. You've got it backwards

They're conservatives BECAUSE they are angry people.

[Davis_X_Machina]

19. Their country...

...is less straight, less white, less native-born, less Protestant, less rural, less 2.1 kids-and-a-picket-fence each year than it was the year before.

It's all slipping away from them, just as they finally got their hands on it.

No wonder they're pissed.

[donheld]

20. Because they have Rush, Hannity, Coulter, Falwell etc

who keep them fired up. They have a constant stream of vile hate filled venom coming at them day and night.

Ted Nugent
Michael Reagan
Michael Medved
Laura Ingraham
Michael Savage
Joe Scarborough
Pat Robertson
Fred Phelps
Phyllis Schafly

the list of hate spewers goes on and on

[gumby]

21. Their operating principle depends on external enemies,

both religiously and politically. They see the world as good and evil and think that life is a continuous battle. They are so void of internal cohesion, they must define themselves by the never-ending source of external enemies:

Commies, socialists, non-Christians, politically incorrect Christians, feminists, homosexuals, people of color, environmentalists, scientists, scientific principles, immigrants, the liberal media, the Liberal Elite, Hollywood types, anyone opposed to the use of lethal and unlimited US power, anyone opposed to their revisionist history. The list goes on and on.

Eventually they will fight against each other because they can never obtain perfection -- so it will always be someone else's fault.

[tanyev]

26. So true.

Perfectly illustrated by Bill Frist's comments on the tsunami disaster:

"I feel like I've been hit in the stomach," Frist, R-Tenn., said in an e-mail to friends and supporters. "It is like 9/11 but so different. There is no one to blame."

[noamnety]

22. bigots have a never ending supply of anger

like a little golden stream that never runs dry.

(any metaphorical similarities to peeing continually on others is strictly coincidental)

[jjtss]

23. Why is the Right angry

their anger derives from their guilt feelings because they gained nothing without lying, cheating and stealing. Don't see how any one can be happy with ill gotten gains. Winning probably ruined their holidays and that increases their anger. I think I said before that I am of two minds about the election. On the one hand I am distraught the the Democrats won't be able to put things right, and on the other hand I'm glad G.Brish and friends can't walk away from the mess they have made.
:D }(

[purduejake]

24. Have you ever tried to party with freepers?

They're in all of our family holidays and at school, too. They're miserable people who don't know how to have fun and enjoy life for what it is.

[DFLforever]

25. Because they're the Party of Hate

They always need someone else to blame their misery on - the devil, Osama, liberals, Muslims, gays, women, Clinton, the UN.

Nasty little fascist trait.

[XemaSab]

28. You forgot the French and the Mexicans

n/t

[Lexingtonian]

27. They now have everything they wanted...everything to lose, too

And lose it they're going to- they know it.

The worst thing is, they cravenly imagined it would save them. But it can't. All the wealth and all the power can't hide that they're historically just about obsolete as a group.

It's the hatred Dickens gives Scrooge. The people who have nothing material, who are politically nearly powerless, have Time, possess the Future.

[karlrschneider]

29. I can't imagine any wingnut being angrier than I am, it's just that

the corporate media doesn't give me any air time.
:grr:

[d_b]

30. Probably because they own everything,

control the debate, and still can't win by any substantial margin.

I'd be pissed too.

[emulatorloo]

32. IMHO most of it is FALSE MANUFACTURED OUTRAGE designed to

influence their supporters though lies and distortions. The goal is hatred of Dems and Democratic principles/values.

Think Lynne Cheney, "one angry mother," when Kerry dared to call her daughter one of God's Children on National TV.

[The Judged]

43. Hey, it's called ACTING! DRAMA! ... They project feelings by acting!

[quiet.american]

51. Excellent phrase

"FALSE MANUFACTURED OUTRAGE" says it all.

[housewolf]

33. Because they believe that they are persecuted

by the so-called "liberal elite" and liberals. They can't help it, the more christian they become the more they bring in a christian heritage (Heritage Foundation???) of being persecuted. It's in their genes, it's in their make-up. They haven't figured out how to do the work of freeing themselves from their past - in fact, they embrace and rely upon it.

I know, I know, .... it doesn't make a bit of sense. But what can you do? There's no reasoning with them. The NEED enemies ir order to provide meaning for their moviement and their lives.

[MKE Dem]

34. You raise a good point

I have a freeper Uncle, and he is the angriest most bitter man I have ever met.

I find this topic to be very interesting, all joking aside why is the right so angry. They have all the power and money and influence they want and a press that follows them like my hounds on a scent.

I think the answer might Be (IMHO here) that the need to be angry. The majority of the freepers I know (middle class) have what they need. House in the burb's, job, wife and 2.3 kids with a beagle. They have nothing to be angry at. My uncle still brings up Clinton like he is Satan and blames everything on him. I think they have this need to hate, to belittle and to destroy. Why they have this need I wish I knew.

I asked one of my many fundie/freeper co-workers why they are still so wound up over Clinton (She was upset that he did not wait until Bush had spoke until he made a statement, mind you waiting for Bush to say tsunami correctly could take a while) Her reply was that he lied and brought shame to the White House. I reminded her that Bush lied and some think that the way he has destroyed America's standing and reputation is worse than anything Clinton ever did.

Her reply was interesting to me, as I was speaking her eyes glazed over and she completely missed my point. Her reply "Clinton Lied"


Sorry for the long post, I know I really did not shed a lot of light on the subject, but think there anger is misplaced, and maybe all freeepers are just sheep who are easily led.

[spotbird]

35. Good post.

More than once a freeper has asked me to explain my position then replied that they have nothing to add since I know more about the subject then they do. Like ignorance of facts is a perfectly reasonable way to form an opinion.

[Piperay]

36. It's WHO

they are, if they aren't angry they aren't the right. As far as being happy, they are incapable.

[thoughtanarchist]

37. Global Domination...

is not something calm happy people tend to agree with...

[The Judged]

39. Because they have better sex lives, and their wives found out?

[shiina]

41. HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT!!!!!!!!!!

lol

[shiina]

42. And now for a serious answer

1. Outrage is how they keep their base together. People like to feel like victims and blame others for their problems. They like to feel righteous. If you're angry at someone, then you're better than them because you know what's right and they did something wrong.

2. It keeps their base irrational, so that they don' realize what they're being told is complete BS and that they're screwing themselves over by voting for these guys.

3. REAL reporters don't scream, whine, yell, rage, go on tirades, etc...but the right-wing fascist press do.

[sorechasm]

52. Anger as Glue

The only cohesive forces in the Republican Party are fear and anger.

"I hate the Red Menace...oh they're gone...I mean Clenis...oh we impeached him...I mean Saddam...oh he's captured...I mean Osama...oh he's not capturable...uh..the liberals...oh we beat them up...the Happy Holidays crowd. Yeah now there's a good target for my anger."

[NVMojo]

44. because they know what they have was gotten illegally ....which means

they are afraid someone is going to do the same thing back at them. Kinda like Karma....

[DemVIctory]

47. They aren't as angry in my

experience. I have run into a few R's and just blown my gasget.
1. Tax cuts to rich and deficit to our country. ($30 in pocket of average Americans)
2. INVADING A NON-THREATENING COUNTRY. (Just always a no-no)
3. Abu-Ghrabe- Mr. R what do you think they will do to American POW's like my grandfather was in WWII?
4. Male-cheerleader- draft-dodger- intoxicated on D & A screw-up, family priviledge to bail him out of countless situations. (Not an American tough guy if you asked me)

When I talk to an R it is me who is angry and rightfully so. Freak out in the face of an R- it may knock some sense into them.

The R's I've 'talked' to understand why I'm angry- IT IS BECAUSE I LOVE MY COUNTRY AND HATE WHAT w IS DOING TO IT! Keep it simple and rightous- they are just wrong and have NO proof other wise!

[peacebird]

49. i have had the same experience

the r's are so stunned that anyone would get in their face and challenge them with facts that they collapse quicker than a house of cards on a windy day.

i think it is good to take the fight to THEM at each and every chance we get. forces them to retreat and perhaps when they get tired of running away with their tail tucked between their legs, maybe - just maybe the aversion therapy will cause them to think.

[unblock]

48. they LOOOOOOOVE being angry!

they think anger is righteous indignation, which is fighting for right, or fighting for the lord.

they LOOOOOOOVE that crap.

[DemVIctory]

50. I agree Peacebird

It almost catches you off guard how quickly they fold! Be passionate and have the facts on your side (since they just are) They will understand quickly that they are wrong, wrong, wrong, and we are angry for VERY GOOD reason. They have nothing to bitch about- what is happening is THEIR fault!

[HeatherG.]

55. You Are Right

There is nothing Christian about the way they set out to destroy people who have not done anything to them. They don't see democrats as real people and that is how they justify the way they treat them. Rush even compared a 13 year old Chelsea Clinton to a dog on his show. A real man would instinctively know that is wrong. I would like some help getting more negative reviews for Unfit For Command on Amazon. Amazon only allows one review per product now so I feel helpless and outnumbered. The dailyhowler website can help you articulate your points. If you know other websites that debunk Unfit use them too.

[KayLaw]

53. Because they're victims

It's got to be hell to be a white, straight, male Christian in this country.

:eyes:

[Starlight]

56. It's a mental illness. Serious issues with anger & hostility.

I'm serious. Have you talked to some of these people? Being angry, nasty, mean, bitter, jealous, resentful and full of hate is a core part of their being. It's what they do. :eyes:

[hangloose]

57. They don't get any sex

[Vidar]

58. Bigotry must be nurtured by anger.

[NuttyFluffers]

59. because they never get laid?

seriously, i have no idea. they were born bitter i guess. they really do look like they recently sucked down a cup of bitters and was then told someone killed their favorite dog.

you can't help these people. their only joy in life is making others as miserable as they. stop trying to make sense of them, there's no reason, and they are lost cases. nothing but to watch them flay in their misery and try to avoid their direct influence as much as possible. in other words, our country is in for deep shit soon.

[FormerDittoHead]

61. CURIOUS: Were the Nazi's ever *not* ANGRY as well?

I'm not one to back down from making the analogy. We're not accusing them of mass murder (that we know of) but of rallying people using hatred and anger? I doubt a better analogy could be made.

They're always "setting it right", "getting back what they deserve", "taking back what was taken from them", "doing what was done to them".

Sound familiar?

How can you get ANGRY if your agenda is "making a sacrifice for others less fortunate", "protecting the future", "trying to leave the world a better place", "doing what's best for everyone". FRUSTRATED, but ANGER wouldn't be a part of this...

[okieinpain]

62. they are fucking crazy. just look at "we're not sorry" web site.

[librechik]

63. cuz they're Nazi assholes who can't tolerate dissent

believe me, it's nothing deeper than that, and it's not our fault. We ought to be biting back hard, but no, we're TOO NICE!! and for that WE get called the angry ones!

[Nimrod]

64. There's good money in antagonism

That's the tall and short of it, as I see it.

[Liberal In Texas]

65. They're bullies

Some types or combinations of:

1) Disenfranchised lower middle class, probably social outcasts. Probably overweight white males. More than likely unemployed or they work in grunt jobs. This is a way to strike out at people they think have been looking down on them. (The elitist theory.)

2) Closet bigots. They can't come right out any more in public and say the things they think. So they strike out semi-privately (say on the freeper site) at minorities who they think are living off the gov't dole. They fear people who are not like them (foreigners, blacks, asians, arabs etc.)

3) Some self-employed or middle to upper manager types who hate paying taxes and see shrub as their way to bigger incomes through lower taxes. They also believe that "I got mine, let the poor work hard to get theirs." All the while paying their employees as little as they can get away with. They don't give a wit about helping anyone but their own.

Anyone have any more?