Byrd voted NO??? Democracy is officially dead folks....

[Pachamama]

Rest in NO Peace....

I'm going to switch parties later today at the City Hall...

I'm not a Democrat after today...

I'll support Barbara Boxer and My Representative Lynn Woolsey because they are great leaders, patriots and Americans....

I will no longer call myself a Democrat after today....The fact that Robert Byrd couldn't even vote yes, is all I needed to know...

[propagandafreegal]

1. All of them voted No: Clinton, Schumer, Obama, Feingold, Biden, Harkin etc

they are letting
Bush get away with this shite.

[Guns Aximbo]

24. It's a losing cause.

Let Bush & fascists party he leads slit their own throat.

[BurtWorm]

2. I meant to warn you not to get your hopes up too high.

You can't expect spineless jellyfish to become sharks overnight. Today was a step in the right direction.

What's really sad is that they must have known that only a small cadre of Democrats would be watching their every move, because only C-SPAN would be covering it. This won't be mentioned at great length on tonight's news shows or in tomorrow's papers. As far as the media go, this was not great history, or even great drama. This was as some here have said a "waste of time." So it seems to me we should feel some gratitude for the organization that permitted this to take place. I'd like to know if there was serious pressure on Boxer not to do what she did, or if there was an agreement of some kind that this had to be done.

[Rhiannon12866]

14. Can you explain to me why?

I realize that we had no hope of overturning the election, and that that wasn't the point of all this. So why would all these senators, who aren't afraid to speak out, like my own outspoken Sen. Clinton, lack the courage to vote their convictions?:shrug:

[BurtWorm]

16. Esoteric political reasons.

They did not want to endanger a single Democratic seat in the precarious Senate. Boxer had just won her election in a blue state in a big way, so she is the safest of safe Dems in the Senate. All they wanted to do (this is a theory, not a fact) was get it down that they were willing to take even this risk (which, admittedly, doesn't look like much to DUers) to besmirch the Bush place in history, and that the Bushists shouldn't get comfortable thinking the Dems weren't willing to take greater risks in the future. This may be a very rose-colored look, but I prefer to see it as realistic.

[Rhiannon12866]

17. Thank you for answering my question.

I guess we do see things a little differently than the average voter and it's easy to forget that. But isn't that an aim of Democrats, to besmirch the Bush* place in history? As far as I'm concerned, he already did his own besmirching, all by himself, in a really serious way, without any of our help. Most everyone I know feels that way, and finds it totally unbelievable that anyone at all can even take this guy seriously, let alone support him. But I understand what you're saying.:-(

However, Hillary isn't up for re-election until 2006, and is going to hear from me for lacking the courage of her convictions. And Schumer was also just re-elected, in a blue state, having faced only half-hearted opposition. But I'm already seriously disappointed in him. He appeared on "The Daily Show," right after the election. When Jon Stewart asked him what went wrong, he practically just shrugged.:grr:

[BurtWorm]

21. Schumer is very disappointing, I agree.

Come to think of it, his landslide in NY was similar to Boxer's in California. But I get the impression he and Hillary are on some self-imposed post-9/11 mission to out-rightwing each other, as though they think New Yorkers went right wing after 9/11 and never came back--despite strong evidence to the contrary! I'm pissed at Schumer for making Dershowitz-esque noises in support of state-sponsored terrorism last summer during questioning of Ashcroft by the Senate Judiciary committee. I think that's why he can't be relied on to grill Gonzales.

[Radical Activist]

3. Get a grip

The point wasn't to overturn the election. It was to raise the issue of election fraud so it is dealt with in the future better than it was last time. Most of the speakers in the House made the point that Bush won and this wasn't about oveturning the election.

[BrklynLiberal]

10. So even if what you say is true, why not vote yes??????????

[Radical Activist]

11. Because it distracts from the real issue

Which is about election reform, not about one election. It also makes people look like mean-spirited partisans that are out of touch with reality.

[Individualist]

4. Indeed, it died today

Fool me once (2001), shame on you; fool me twice (2005), shame on me.

[TheDonkey]

5. even if he voted yes nothing would change

you are taking this situation to seriosuly. It matters how he votes on the electoral reform legislation votes go that really matters.

[BrklynLiberal]

9. If they did not vote yes today,they will not vote yes on voter legislation

that has any teeth in it...if any legislation even gets to the floor of either house. This vote was a show of courage and integrity, which it seems only Levin and Boxer have. What an incredible disappointment.
Altho I did not expect any better from Schumer, Leiberman, and some of the other Repug "lites"

[Telly Savalas]

6. If Democracy is dead...

then does it really matter fuck all which party you're registered to?

[BrklynLiberal]

7. It does matter how they vote. It shows if they have any integrity on this

matter and if they care about voters rights. If they vote no today what makes you think they will vote yes on a voters rights bill????
Why should they?

[DemGirl7]

8. Got a question...

Should I burn my copy of his "Losing America" with I got for Christmas?? I'm VERY Angry right now...and I need vent my extreme anger for the democrats somehow...

[Zhade]

12. There should be a single day affliation switch.

Say, January 21st. Show the Dems just what they've lost, en masse.

[Bouncy Ball]

15. Hear, hear.

Here in TX you don't register by party, you just register, so there's nothing to switch for me.

But I will be making checks out to a different group of people, I think.

[Rhiannon12866]

18. That's exactly what a friend of mine suggested

Because, if there is a sudden and large enough number of voters leaving the party, it sends a definite message. It's about time that our representatives became a little afraid of us, and the power that we have to vote them in or out of office, than of offending the damn Republicans!:grr:

[GreenPartyVoter]

13. Pachamama, the system is so screwed up it can't get fixed at the top, so

help me and a lot of other folks pull it apart and rebuild it from the bottom on up!

*hugs*

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Election reform can help save this country!
http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/electionreform.htm

[erpowers]

19. I am Disappointed in Him

I was hoping that since he is at an advanced age and probably will not be running for Senate too many more times. I felt that he should stand up and challenge the vote since close to his last go. It seems like he would want to go out with a fight.

[Fla_Democrat]

20. Looking into it online tonight

Wonder if that name change amnesty is still in effect. :argh:

[formernaderite]

22. Instead of quitting the democratic party.....VOTE them out!!!

We need new democrats who believe in the issues. Senators and congressional reps do not have the right to lifetime appointments. This old crowd is all about the relationships they have....they party, wine and dine with the republicans and won't rock the boat.

[0007]

23. All that yapping, all that saliva drolling was just another show

Yawn!