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Thu Jan-06-05 03:24 PM
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Everybody give $2 to Greens today |
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For no particular reason other than to let the dems know we're leaving.
We need to Push the 527s like Moveon not to defer to Dems in deciding strategy as they did when Kerry asked them to pull ads attacking Bush for being AWOL.
I will still support democratic candidates who stand by New Deal principles, but I won't give money to the party or support candidates who are stealth republicans.
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Thu Jan-06-05 03:30 PM
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No more free rides just because you put a D on your office door.
I'm talking to YOU Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. (And way too many others...)
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Thu Jan-06-05 03:30 PM
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Still I was a Democrat for way longer than I was a Republican or independent. :)
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Thu Jan-06-05 03:44 PM
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3. I'm staying and will send some dem senators who stood up some cash |
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Thu Jan-06-05 03:45 PM
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4. Right ..Boxer and Levin are the only ones I will support |
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Thu Jan-06-05 03:46 PM
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5. There are only two: Boxer and Levin |
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the rest of them capitulated!
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Thu Jan-06-05 03:51 PM
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6. So the Democrats do something you wanted them to do |
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And they get punished for it? I don't understand.
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Thu Jan-06-05 03:52 PM
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8. Only 2 Senators, who deserve our support for all eternity |
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and at least 15 members of the House.
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Thu Jan-06-05 03:54 PM
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10. It isn't so black and white |
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And pledging eternal service to a senator based on a single vote is the most ridiculous thing I've heard. Doubtless you said the same about Byrd during the IWR debate, who voted "no" today, I believe. Now he is a damned Repuke sympathizer unworthy of our spittle, I'm sure.
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Thu Jan-06-05 03:57 PM
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12. The right to vote is a sacred right |
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If the party as a whole won't fight for our right to vote, it can disappear into the dustbin of history.
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Thu Jan-06-05 04:00 PM
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Using a means of fighting that would avoid burying the entire issue in a triumphal Republican PR victory. Your chosen method wouldn't be so lucky. It seems you care less about actual results on voting rights than about moving the bar every time the Dems actually do something so a victory can be declared a failure.
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Thu Jan-06-05 04:16 PM
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18. There is the whiff of appeasement in the air |
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the same whiff I smelled when many of our Democratic representatives voted for PATRIOT and IWR so as to not give ammo to the GOP. That's some winning strategy, isn't it?
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Thu Jan-06-05 05:01 PM
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29. 74-1 Is a Triumphant repug PR victory! |
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cause the one that voted against the majority is now painted as just a wacko.
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Thu Jan-06-05 05:41 PM
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33. ding ding ding, right answer! |
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strength in unity. we understood that -- MANY times. our democratic leaders didn't. for that they shall be condemned. period. no more debate. play horse trade with the most sacred and last check to power there is in the face of fascist threat is outright assault on your freedom. the question for people now is "will you go down with the gop choking you with a rope and call it a victory because the rope's not attached to a tree?" i choose no. i recommend other sensible people to choose no.
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Thu Jan-06-05 03:51 PM
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7. Where's the link? (Greens) |
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One of my Senators is Boxer, she did the right thing!
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Thu Jan-06-05 03:53 PM
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9. To my happy surprise, Barbara Boxer came through |
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the little Jewish woman did what Hillary could not do: stand on principle!
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Thu Jan-06-05 03:58 PM
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14. I was pleasantly surprised by Boxer, too |
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Shame that she ended up being marginalized by all the other Senate Dems...
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Thu Jan-06-05 03:55 PM
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but the punitive attitude toward dems is bullshit.
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Thu Jan-06-05 03:57 PM
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13. If the Dems in Congress aren't representing the |
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people and defending their rights, they don't deserve our support.
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Thu Jan-06-05 04:02 PM
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16. Do you really see it as punitive? |
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Like Nick said above, Congressional Dems need to earn our support.
Beginning with the lack of reaction to the theft of 2000, thru PATRIOT, IWR, and so, so many disappointments, I've been saying "OK, one more chance." But like any bad relationship, there comes a time to say "enough." I suppose that for a lot of people, today was the final straw.
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Thu Jan-06-05 04:21 PM
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19. I think it would be an excellent idea for those who don't want the Dems |
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appeasing the corporations to send a small contribution to the Greens and then to send the DNC a photocopy of the check. :-)
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Thu Jan-06-05 04:23 PM
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21. I like that idea n/t. |
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Thu Jan-06-05 04:25 PM
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23. I say next to a member of the DNC at a (my first) DFA meeting last night. |
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He actually said "some of the DLC's ideas are good."
I think I'll follow through on your suggestion. I'm going Green, too. Fuck the Dems if they don't care about fraud that will lead to their extinction (which it will, when THEY get blackboxed, too)!
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Thu Jan-06-05 05:42 PM
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35. Include a photocopy of... |
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voter registration form with party change too.
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Thu Jan-06-05 04:22 PM
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I've been a lifelong Dem and starting working for the party when I was eight years old. I've been adamantly anti-Green/ third party since 2000, but recently that has changed. I'm sick of having to vote for moderate right wing wimps because they are my only viable option. More of the same only means...more of the same; losing. If a Progressive leader with a strong backbone and a loud voice stands up to these anti-Americans, then I'll back him/her, even if they are green party/third party.
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Thu Jan-06-05 04:14 PM
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Thu Jan-06-05 04:25 PM
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22. Didn't the Greens do enough in 2000? It's amazing to me... |
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Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 04:28 PM by Kahuna
that the Greens, who put the repukes in total control of the government, bitch and howl the loudest about the repukes having total control of the government. What part of this didn't they understand in 2000 when they GLEEFULLY, cast their lots with the devil? Amazing. Now they want the DEMS to be purer than snow. Hypocrasy knows no bounds.
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Thu Jan-06-05 04:35 PM
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25. Not one Democratic Senator joined the Black Caucus in 2000 |
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Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 04:35 PM by IndianaGreen
to challenge the Florida electors. So, don't you lecture us about the Greens "putting the repukes in control." That's as much a red herring as blaming Bush exclusively for the war in Iraq, when in fact many Democrats voted for the Iraq WAR Resolution.
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Thu Jan-06-05 04:38 PM
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26. Yeah, yeah, the Greens "put the repukes in control" in 2000 |
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Hey, IG- haven't seen you around much lately!
I've always respected your intellect- maybe you can explain to me how the Greens in 2000 has ANY relevance to 2002 or 2004?
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Thu Jan-06-05 05:08 PM
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31. Is there enough of this dead horse left to beat? *lol* |
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Maybe an ear and a whisker or two? :eyes: ------------------------------------------------------ Election reform can help save this country! http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/electionreform.htm
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Thu Jan-06-05 05:08 PM
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32. It was the Greens and Libertarians who got us as far as we did. |
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There would be NO legal actions in OH right now without them.
The Democratic Party is dead. Face it.
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Thu Jan-06-05 04:28 PM
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24. For every $2 you give to the Greens |
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I'll give $20 to the Dems.
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Thu Jan-06-05 04:42 PM
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27. Well, thanks, but I urge you to help rebuild the system from the ground up |
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as well. :) ------------------------------------------------------ Election reform can help save this country! http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/electionreform.htm
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Thu Jan-06-05 04:55 PM
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28. Are the suits going to proceed anyway, or will they be kicked out |
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by the courts now and dropped?
They did such a steller job spearheading the litigation and investigation on this.
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Thu Jan-06-05 05:07 PM
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I mean, what the fuck. Why stay with a party to chicken-shit to fight?
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Thu Jan-06-05 05:42 PM
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34. I support only Democrats who will stand up |
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for progressive values. PERIOD. I DO NOT SUPPORT Dems who can't even find their BALLS.
Period.
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Thu Jan-06-05 05:45 PM
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36. What about Dean's organization? |
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Democracy for America?
I'm giving money to Greens and money to DFA. DFA at least remembers what progressive principles ARE.
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