Maddy McCall
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Fri Jan-07-05 01:04 AM
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I advise anyone who doesn't to run for president in 2008. Maybe you can do a better job...
or at least run for city council member, or school board member before you diss Kerry.
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Fri Jan-07-05 01:04 AM
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and the ends my brief trip back to hell.
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Fri Jan-07-05 01:06 AM
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GO KERRY!!
KERRY/EDWARDS 2008!!!!
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Fri Jan-07-05 01:06 AM
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Though that sentiment seems to be in the minority here today, in general.
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Fri Jan-07-05 01:33 AM
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I'm really only interested in bashing Bush.
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Fri Jan-07-05 01:08 AM
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Me, too.
'Voted for both the Johns and would do it again in a heartbeat.
I'm dispirited by having Dubya in there now and am trying to look down the road to better times.
I think our ticket worked hard, had genuine support, and still deserves respect and praise.
Nice to meet you on DU.
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Maddy McCall
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Fri Jan-07-05 01:10 AM
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8. Nice to meet you, too. |
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and I agree with EVERY WORD you said. :hi:
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Fri Jan-07-05 01:11 AM
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Fri Jan-07-05 01:11 AM
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9. I like Kerry I wasn't trying to diss him |
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Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 01:12 AM by politicasista
It's just feels like me and a few are the only peeps that would support him after today. It is always Dean, Clark, or someone else. Jesse Jackson, Michael Moore, and others seemed let down by his early concession and I got tired of the Kerry bashing. I voted for the man and I would support him again if he decided to run. Please don't label me a freeper.
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Maddy McCall
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Fri Jan-07-05 01:13 AM
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11. I am not labeling you one... |
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sorry if it appeared that way. Nothing sickens me more than seeing the progressive "purists" spitting on Kerry today. It's just disgusting.
Cheers to you. :toast: I would support him and work just as hard for him if he ever runs again. :-)
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Fri Jan-07-05 01:15 AM
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My "nobody likes Kerry" post was sarcastic. It's all good.:pals:
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Fri Jan-07-05 01:16 AM
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15. Please see my post to you in your thread... |
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Fri Jan-07-05 01:13 AM
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Not so much fun to imagine oneself in the center of the circular firing squad, I suppose.
I like Kerry too.
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Fri Jan-07-05 01:15 AM
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13. even one of the Olsen twins could do a better job |
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I don't think they would cave so fast and so cowardly as the 'hero' who failed to report for duty. So fast even Edwards was disgusted.
Good-bye Kerry, don't let the door hit you on your way out.
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Fri Jan-07-05 01:18 AM
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17. You need a dose of reality. |
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The Olsen Twins couldn't run, anyway. They aren't old enough. :silly:
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Fri Jan-07-05 01:24 AM
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18. they'd STILL do a better job. |
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Fri Jan-07-05 01:26 AM
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Fri Jan-07-05 01:27 AM
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20. Kerry's great as a person, |
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but as a politician, at least NOW, he's freaking useless.
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Fri Jan-07-05 01:28 AM
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21. You must be a Deaniac or Clarkie. |
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Fri Jan-07-05 01:32 AM
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22. Of course- I knew about Kerry's antics well before the campaign started. |
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Of course I'm a Deaniac or a Clarkie.
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Fri Jan-07-05 04:10 AM
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Fri Jan-07-05 04:49 AM
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25. those evil Deaniacs and Clarkies.... |
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Fri Jan-07-05 09:45 PM
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Sorry, I couldn't resist the bad joke. :evilgrin:
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Sat Jan-08-05 01:31 AM
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40. This Deaniac/Kucinich Freak |
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still loves Kerry, as human being and as a politician. Ya gotta know when to stand and when to compromise, and Kerry knows. I am a true believer!
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Fri Jan-07-05 08:43 PM
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26. I like him too-- but not as a presidential candidate |
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He was the wrong man at the wrong time. He was too politically compromised to be an effective opposition candidate. He has been a great Senator (or, at least he was until 1992 or so), and a decent Democrat.
I still like Kerry. But I don't think he ran a good campaign in 2004.
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Fri Jan-07-05 10:58 PM
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34. I think Kerry's campaign issues can be summed up in two words |
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BOB SCHRUM. Why do we keep letting this man run campaigns? I believe he's been a key figure in every losing campaign for the last 20 years. He has yet to win. Whoever our next candidate is, and I doubt it will be Kerry, I hope he has the good sense to stay as far from Schrum as possible.
Personally, I like Kerry (he's my senator) although I never had a good feeling about his campaign after Schrum got on board.
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Fri Jan-07-05 08:50 PM
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27. I like him too. Too bad he's so unelectable & had poor campaign advisors |
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He could've made a good president
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Fri Jan-07-05 09:15 PM
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28. I like him, too, and pushed him as candidate to my friends in 2003 but ... |
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... his campaign really was pathetic.
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Fri Jan-07-05 09:32 PM
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29. I agree with you Maddy. |
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I'll even give you a big AMEN!
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Fri Jan-07-05 09:36 PM
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Fri Jan-07-05 09:42 PM
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31. Wake up and smell the coffee.He didn't keep one promise he made-he caved |
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within an hour---after promising he had 10,000lawyers (and they were there for free) to fight.
Didn't even show up to object to the Ohio vote.
I worked day and night for that ticket. What a sham.
John Kerry is an absolute SHIT.
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Sat Jan-08-05 12:54 PM
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45. To fight for what? A one in a million chance? |
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The guy spent two years campaigning day and night for President, which is probably more than you did. If Ohio had come to a couple hundred votes, he would have fought. But there's no reason for him to have to draw out a painful loss to pursue something that's impossible to achieve.
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Fri Jan-07-05 10:45 PM
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33. I like him to; I just don't like the idea of him being the nominee in 2008 |
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Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 10:46 PM by Clarkie1
I want our party to win.
Nothing personal against Kerry.
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Fri Jan-07-05 11:14 PM
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35. I like him. Always have. I think he's a fine man. But I don't want.. |
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him to be the nominee in '08. And I don't have to personally run against him. I can support a candidate that i prefer to be the nominee.
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Fri Jan-07-05 11:37 PM
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Just don't know how well he'll do in 2008!
I saw him in person and looked into his eyes... there's some real DEPTH there regardless of how many times he's been DISSED here at DU!
Nobody's perfect!
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Fri Jan-07-05 11:54 PM
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37. People don't realize how hard it is to unseat a sitting President |
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who has already won over half or more of the country before. (Yes, Bush lost the popular vote in 2000, but 9/11 pretty much erased that and the 90% approval ratings bought him a new "mandate" in that most of the country has approved of his job before. So even if people disapprove of the job he's doing, it's not always been that way.) Just think - in the past hundred or so years, eight Presidents who ran won re-election (McKinley, Wilson, FDR, Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Nixon, and Eisenhower) while only four didn't (Carter, Bush, Taft, and Hoover). Of those four, three presided over crappy economies in peacetime and the other was challenged by Teddy Roosevelt. Really, the fact that Kerry did as well as he did says a lot.
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Sat Jan-08-05 01:48 AM
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43. But we all know history is no guide... |
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Sat Jan-08-05 12:38 AM
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38. I do too. I refuse to condemn Kerry for not being perfect. |
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And I just don't see his handling of the post-election issues as the kind of "horrific betrayal" that many on DU have made it out to be.
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Sat Jan-08-05 01:24 AM
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39. He wasn't my choice, but I supported the party and worked for him and it - |
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now I won't have anything to do with the democratic party . We need a new one.
He's a dilletante. All show and no substance. Talk. and no follow through.
A publicity hound...and such a coward, that he had Edwards out there saying we won;t give in, and then sent Edwards out again to say" We're giving in.
I dont think Edwards liked that one bit.
My choice was Edwards or Dean.
But the Party Machine chose Kerry cause he was closest to Bush's policies.
Bush- lite.
Cheezus - are you people smoking something or what?
Did any of you WORK at any of the campaign headquarters.
He let us down. And that's all there is to it. He threw the fight. period.
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Sat Jan-08-05 02:15 PM
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47. He wasn't my first choice, either. |
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I honestly didn't think much of Kerry, until I started reading about his past achievements from people on this board, like JohnKleeb. Take an honest look at John Kerry's life and his entire political career and there's no way you could call him a "coward" or "Bush-lite".
And what and where is this "party machine" that supposedly over-ruled the caucus and primary voters?! If you're talking about the DLC, then we'd be talking about the primary victory of Joe Lieberman or probably even John Edwards, right now.
It suffices to say that we also share a strong disagreement over how John Kerry should've handled issues surrounding the election. I think it's politically smart to fight this battle in a way that doesn't make it look like the battle is all about him. This argument is, of course, being debated all the time on DU.
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Sat Jan-08-05 01:44 AM
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It appears the backlash against Kerry bashing here has begun and I couldn't be happier. Nobody is perfect, including Kerry, but some people here have gone way over the edge with the Monday morning quarterbacking.
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Sat Jan-08-05 01:46 AM
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42. No problem with Kerry. Pursue Election Reform |
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Sat Jan-08-05 01:54 AM
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44. I think we'll see more good stuff from Kerry. |
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2008 is a long way off.
The man seems to be getting to work for the Party already. Taking apart the basis of the Bush 'mandate' that emanates from Iraq and such, if I understand what he's doing correctly.
Whether or not he runs again, giving him or the next nominee a better Party to work with along the way is our part of the job. Flush the morons and obstructing conservatives out of being able to demand tribute and compromising the whole, under whatever banner they're operating.
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Sat Jan-08-05 01:17 PM
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At first, I didn't; I thought he was a creep. I supported Dean in the primaries and I still support Dean for DNC chair. But once Kerry was the inevitabe nominee, I was prepared to swallow my pride and support him, even if I didn't like him much. Over time, however, I came to really admire Kerry, and after the convention, I was behind him 100%. After the debates, it was 1000%. He's been a great senator and if he's the nominee again in 2008, I'd vote for him in a heartbeat.
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Sat Jan-08-05 02:18 PM
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48. What would you all be saying if he'd won Ohio? |
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Jeesh. 115,000 + votes (either cast or counted) and the guy would be President. Would you still be complaining that he was a lousy candidate?
Why do we Democrats always eat our own? Republicans rarely turn on each other like this. :(
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Sat Jan-08-05 02:19 PM
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49. I would strongly support some DUers running for office |
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even running for dog catcher is better than bitching about politicians. Then maybe people will bitch about you?
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Sat Jan-08-05 02:22 PM
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And I think it's a testament that the people who don't wanna like him here have to pull some story about him not challenging the Ohio votes without any evidence out of their asses in order to find something to complain about.
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