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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:40 AM
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John Kerry is asking Condiliar questions now
on C-SPAN.
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:41 AM
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1. finally...
as I said on another thread...

someone with BALLS...!
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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:41 AM
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2. He's going after some of the condasleeza lies
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blueblitzkrieg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:42 AM
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3. Kerry says hes disturbed by Condis answer on # of troops
does not know how he will vote

seeing him talk, I gotta admit I kinda miss the lug..why isnt he president??
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:44 AM
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cags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:45 AM
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6. No, They should all yell "Dogpile" and lay on her.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:45 AM
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7. Condi is a Neo-Con and a War Criminal!!!
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:45 AM
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8. Well that's just super
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:45 AM
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9. you are on the wrong forum pally.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:47 AM
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:48 AM
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16. Race has nothing to do with it.
What kind of racism are you suffering?
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:50 AM
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19. I believe you were told you were on the wrong board
before anyone knew you were black. I suspect flamebait. The right wingers are getting very comfortable with their victim status. Frankly, I'm tired of their whining.
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iwantmycountryback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:51 AM
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21. You're kidding me right freeper?
Where do you see any evidence of racism? We don't like her because she's a liar and a war criminal. Try actually defending that instead of just shouting racist.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:53 AM
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27. no one here knows the color of your skin.
Please don't tell me you like that fucking wench just because her skin color is the same as yours? Have you ANY idea what that witch has done? If not, do a google search. She's a lying warmonger. :grr:
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livinginphotographs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:57 AM
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32. Are you still here?
:eyes:
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drscm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:04 PM
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42. Condi's Race has everything to do with it...
Bush's cynical brain, Karl Rove, calls her one of "The Untouchables" because the repugs can play the race card even though she is a neo-Con.

Do not judge Condi by her actions because she is Black. Now that is racist!
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phantomvotes Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:30 PM
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56. Some great black congress persons;
Mr. Conyers, Jesse Jackson and Mrs. Tubbs are the some of most intelligent, influential and great congress persons of the United states and standing for a fair laws and democracy.

The CON Condi and Blackwell should be sitting in a federal prison for the rest of their lives for acts of crimes against democracy and humanity. Is there a law against political prostitution? If there is they should be convicted.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:46 AM
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10. Really? Ms. "who knew they'd use planes as weapons" Rice?
There's not much to like with this dangerous idiot. In fact, there's a lot to hate.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:49 AM
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:52 AM
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25. It was her job to know about such things
and her shock came from her ignorance. Personally I think she was lying.
Sorry you think the color of her skin has anything to so with the matter.
Incompetent boobs come in all colors.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:54 AM
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28. WTF are you talking about?
Where is the racism?
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:56 AM
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30. hey, people of all races LIE
... and just because she's black she is no less guilty of it than anybody else
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:57 AM
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31. He's a freeper... ignore. n/t
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loritooker Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:03 PM
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41. she said "who knew that planes could be used as weapons". nt
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:46 AM
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11. Just one question
Why?

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iwantmycountryback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:50 AM
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18. Actually they should grill the living shit out of her
And make her look horrible.
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denese Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:13 PM
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52. She has made herself look horrible
They should merely point it out.
denese
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cidliz2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 02:10 PM
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65. When Kerry mentioned other countries telling him
that they volunteered more help to the U.S. and the U.S. declined their offers why didn't Kerry have a list of the specific countries and the specific offers? If Kerry would have done this it would have finished Rice on this issue. He was a prosecuter....WTF?

By presenting a specific list of countries and offers of help it would have shown Rice to be a liar. It would have shown her to be
inadequate when it comes to qualifications as Secretary of State.

All Kerry had to do was to wait for her to say "I am not aware of any offers of help from other countries...and Kerry could have hit her with a list and she would have been exposed - if nothing else many of us DU'ers would have had a good moment today.

Another disappointing Kerry performance.

P.S. Yes, I realize that Rice still would have been approved, but I would (and somewhat expect) Kerry to have come on more strongly with SPECIFIC statements, charges and comments.

Does anybody in Washington talk directly?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:52 AM
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23. Hahahha Is she "pro Crusade" too?
Tell me PLEASE that you are a regular just pulling people's legs. I searched on your name- Some very funny posts.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:52 AM
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24. Suuuuure
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:58 AM
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33. If only "we" would all lay off Condi, "we'd" start winning elections again
Right? ;)
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:01 PM
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37. She is a liar with no credibility around the world...
bush appointing her as SOS is guaranteeing failure in US diplomacy, that may, indeed, be his agenda.
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toymachines Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:06 PM
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44. hahaha, someone liking condi, haha
she-bush scares me
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:51 AM
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22. Because God didn't want him to be President...
I'm God...


...and I approve of this President!
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:45 AM
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5. God I wish he was president.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:46 AM
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12. So, how does he plan to vote?
Don't get your hopes up, they are bound to be disappointed.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:02 PM
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40.  He's consistent. He's going to vote for her
before he votes against her. ;)
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rachelbirds Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:10 PM
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48. TOO funny!
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:10 PM
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49. heh heh nt
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 11:08 AM
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68. Way to keep those Republican talking points alive.
n/t
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 03:07 PM
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69. You mean like "get over it?"
Tit for tat. ;)

That said, I applaud him for his actual vote. All kidding aside.
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Acryliccalico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:46 AM
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13. listening n/t
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:48 AM
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15. "Welcome to the world of oaths and testimony and Congressional hearings."
That's how he started with her. Yes, folks: she's UNDER OATH. She's flatly lied in the past about warnings from the intelligence services, foreknowledge about using planes as missiles, and a host of other things. She should be pinned down on specifics.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:12 PM
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50. By whom?
She should be pinned down on specifics

It'll never happen with this poor excuse of a congress. The Dems are too busy kissing her ass and we all know the repukes wouldn't DARE pin her down on specifics.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:31 PM
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57. That was how Kerry started with her
You're right, though; she needs to asked about specifics. She's lied many times, but now she's under oath and should be asked the following:

You said you didn't know about planes being used as missiles before 9-11, yet this was a well-known threat and had been for years. Did you lie or were you derelict in your duties?

You personally hid and misrepresented the intelligence communities reservations about WMD evidence, connections with Al-Queda and other things. Why did you deliberately mislead?

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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:50 AM
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20. John Kerry is self-neutered
Now, I think we all agree that going into Iraq when there was no WMD, no connection to "Al-Queda", no threat to us or our allies -was at least a horrific blunder, if not treasonous offense...Lying to congress, the American people and the world, we should be outraged and demand investigation.

Knowing what we know now, we would NOT have approved going into Iraq!
Yet, when this question was posed to our boy, he replied in the campaign in the affirmative that he would still vote to go in...so I wouldn't look for Kerry to start grilling Condaliar or monkeyboy about it now.

The corporate fourth estate is complicit. Who among our so-called party leaders will stand up and call this administration to task?

Lies LIES LIES!
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:01 PM
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36. JK voted for authorization to use force. Bush abused this authority,
pulled out the UN inspectors and rushed to war all the while repeating that "war was his last resort."

Bush will be held accountable for the war in Iraq, altho Bush claims he was held accountable in the November election; he was not. We all know history will not deal kindly with Bush's disastrous decision to go to war in Iraq.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:06 PM
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45. Key phrase "Knowing what you know NOW"
would you still vote for authorization?

Kerry: "yes"

Self termination? taking a dive?


Self sabotage, you decide why.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 01:54 PM
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63. Without the threat of force in the resolutions, no UN inspectors in Iraq.
Do any of you Kerry bashers really think John Kerry would have yanked out the inspectors and rushed to war--all the while lying to the American people and the world that "war was his last resort." This is exactly what Bush did.

The Iraq War is Bush's war, and it is becoming increasingly obvious that his administration will continue on the same disastrous path. Condi made that clear this morning. These neocon ideologues have on blinders!

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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 02:00 PM
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64. It was always obvious. nt
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:09 PM
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47. Lame.
We all knew what was going on. Some of Kerry's peers knew as well, but they put truth and integrity before political ambitions. And, poorly advised ambition at that. So, here we see poor judgement in lining up behind Bush and poor judgement in pandering as political payoff and poor judgement in believing there would be a payoff. Ultimately Kerry was so compromised he had nothing but hairs to split--and that on top of an unattractive personality and style.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:27 PM
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55. Yep, "We all knew what was going on."
To claim that Bush pulled some kind of trick really makes us look even worse. Everyone knew what was going on.
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MsUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:53 AM
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26. It sounds, like she's putting him in his place......not good.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:56 AM
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29. Which confirmation are YOU watching.... LOL n/t
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:05 PM
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43. Same one I'm watching
She won the round with Kerry. Wish it weren't so, but denial isn't a good policy.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:08 PM
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46. No denial.. .she just did some spinning...
I see beyond that.
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rachelbirds Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:12 PM
Response to Reply #43
51. i don't like it
but she did win that round. Damn!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:58 AM
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34. Funny, I didn't think that at all.
She couldn't answer his questions, because she could care less about other countries wanting to provide aid.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:00 PM
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35. She is irrelevant and no one seriously can believe anything she says
They were disagreeing about whether foreign countries want to assist us with regard to Iraq and she said that that wasn't true. Whatever Condi you are a proven liar.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:01 PM
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39. She's so stupid. HE JUST TALKED TO ALL OF THEM!
You can't blow smoke up Kerry's ass because he sees right through it.
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PaganPreacher Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:20 PM
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54. I love your mixed metaphor, Hawk! Thanks!
Hawk, that sentence was the funniest thing I have read all day.

Your sentence may be read in either of two, equally plausible, ways:

1. Kerry can see "right through" his ass. (thanks to his transparent anus, presumably)

2. Kerry can see through smoke blown up his ass (thanks to that miner's light he put on before inserting his head up his ass, perhaps.)



(ring) "Hello? Oh, OK. Hawk, the Partnership of English Majors wants to talk to you."

The Pagan Preacher
I don't turn the other cheek.

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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #54
60. /ring... this is God. You need to STFU.
Have a bad day.
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PaganPreacher Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:54 PM
Response to Reply #60
61. I learned to refuse collect calls from your God.
Last time, he ran up my phone bill over a hundred bucks!

Thanks for calling, though!


If your God didn't look like Mark Twain, it would be easier to take him seriously.

The Pagan Preacher
I don't turn the other cheek.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #61
62. That's ok, you're probably a dead beat and never pay your bills anyway...
:silly:
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PaganPreacher Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 06:27 PM
Response to Reply #62
66. Since you declared yourself to be "God,"
Edited on Tue Jan-18-05 06:33 PM by PaganPreacher
(see post 60), then I figured you would cover it.

Never mind; I forgive You!

Next time, Almighty One, please use your calling card.


Use it on Earth, as it is in Heaven. Not valid in Utah.

The Pagan Preacher
I don't turn the other cheek.

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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:58 AM
Response to Reply #66
67. LOL! I have one of those on my desk right now actually...
3.47 cents a minute!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:47 PM
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59. Kerry is talking of getting them to the table and Condi dismisses him
same ol'-same ol'
Personally, I think kerry did just fine!!
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:01 PM
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38. I wish they would all tailor down the "pontificating"
and ask her some pointed questions.
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rachelbirds Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:14 PM
Response to Reply #38
53. agree
It's alot of pontificating, grandstanding and showboating! Does anyone here really think she won't get confirmed? I think it's already a done deal.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:33 PM
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58. wait... SENATORS are PONTIFICATING?
stop the presses!

this union has outlived its usefullness. cascadian independence!
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