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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:34 AM
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What these Europeans don't understand, and what they keep asking me, is why. "America had everything going for it," said noted Dutch author Karel von Wolfen to me the other day. "America had the respect of just about the whole world. No one here can possibly fathom why they would so quickly and so brazenly throw that all away."

Explaining this whole phenomenon is a bit like trying to unravel a Robert Ludlum plot. It is part fantasy, part madness, part greed, bound together with the barbed wire of an unyielding ideology. I try, again and again, to make it all clear.

I tell them that all this started in 1932 with the election of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. This election ushered in the phenomenon known as the New Deal - the rise of Social Security, the eventual rise of Medicare, the development of dozens of other social programs, and the enshrinement of the basic idea that the Federal government in America can be a force for good within the populace. Even in 1932, such an idea was anathema to unrestricted free-market profiteers and powerful business interests, for the rise of a powerful Federal government also heralded the rise of regulation.

Within the ebb and drift of American politics, those who stood agains tthe concepts espoused by FDR and his adherents drifted inexorably into what is now the modern Republican Party. This drift was aided by the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which motivated the last vestiges of the old, racist, Confederate Democratic Party to bolt to the right. Lyndon Johnson's Great Society plan further widened the rift, and the progressive activism in the 1960's and 1970's solidified the battle lines. Once the shift was completed, the stage was set for the kind of political to-the-knife trench warfare that has been happening to this day.

Many issues were bandied about in the no-man's land between the lines, but at the end of the day, the issue to be tested was that basic premise brought by FDR: What will the place of the Federal government be in the lives of the American people? Can that government be a help?

Those who argued against this idea had ample rationales for their resistance, some of them uncomfortable to hear in the light of day. The activism of the Federal government brought about racial desegregation and the rise of minority rights, something a segment of the right finds unacceptable to this day. The activism of the federal government made it difficult for unrestricted free-market loyalists to secure the privatization of available mass markets like health care, insurance and Social Security. The activism of the Federal government kept mega-businesses from the ability to grow to whatever size they pleased, even though such growth was death to the basic capitalist concept of competition. The activism of the Federal government forced these businesses to spend a portion of their profits on pollution controls. The list of complaints went on and on. In a corner of their hearts, many who stood against FDR's plans did so because the rise of an activist Federal government smelled a little too much like Soviet-style communism for comfort.

And so the trenches were dug, the bayonet?s were fixed, and the war dragged on and on. The right howled that such an activist government would require the American people to be taxed to death. The right howled that public schooling did not work, and they de-funded public education on the state and local levels to prove their point. The right invented bugaboos like the "welfare queen," with her Cadillac and ten children, who avoided working and lived of the sweat from the honest man's brow. Often, the American people listened to their arguments. The rise of Ronald Reagan is evidence that their message had strength, if not merit.

The problem, as ever, became clear before too long. Unrestricted free-marketeering, deficit spending, tax cuts for the richest people in the country which would purportedly cause the trickling down of monies to the rest, unrestricted polluting, unrestricted defense spending, and the deregulation of absolutely everything, is poison to any economy that is subjected to it. George Herbert Walker Bush was left holding this particular bag in 1992, and he was not enough of a salesman to convince the American people that it was still working.

This, I tell my European counterparts, is when all hell really began to break loose.

Many people believe the statement that "Bill Clinton was the best Republican President we've ever had." There are a great many facts to back this assertion, but it begs the question: If Clinton was the best Republican President we've ever had, why did the Republicans work every night and every day for eight years, why do they continue to work to this day, to destroy him and the economic legacy he left behind?

The answer is complex. Clinton is labeled 'Republican' by the Left because of the passage of NAFTA, of GATT, of the Welfare Reform Act, of the Telecommunications Act, and for a variety of other reasons. In many ways, however, this does not tell the entire story. The passage of these rightist packages came, in no small part, because Clinton had no hard-core activated base pushing him in the proper direction. After twelve years of warfare against Reagan and Bush, a massive swath of the progressive community saw Clinton's victory in 1992 and felt like they had at last won the fight. They threw their activism into neutral, leaving Clinton with no army to back him up. One can hardly blame them for doing so after such a protracted struggle.

But this left Clinton exposed. The onslaughts of the right pushed him inexorably in their direction, because there was no powerful progressive network there to push back. Only after the impeachment mayhem broke loose did the tattered threads of progressive activism come back together again, but by then the damage had been done. Certainly, there were many progressives in America who fought the good fight every step of the way, but there were not enough of them. Progressives in 2003 who label Clinton as 'Republican' should take a long look in the mirror, and remember what they were not doing from 1993 to 1998, before casting final judgment. I am, sadly, one who has trouble facing that mirror.

An analysis of the facts, and the record, reveals Clinton to have been one of the most effective progressive Presidents in American history. By 1998 he had managed to create an economic system that filled the Federal treasury with unprecedented amounts of available money, and he had also managed to pass a variety of progressive social programs that benefited vast numbers of middle-class Americans. When Clinton stood up in 1998, with a massive budget surplus waiting in the wings, and cried, "Save Social Security first!" he was roaring a battle cry across the trenches that had been there since 1932. Such a surplus would fund social programs all across the country. Such a surplus would, at long last, settle the argument: An activist Federal government can be a force for good within the American populace, and once more, can be paid for with extra left over. The New Deal/Great Society wars seemed to be coming to an end.

This was why he had to be destroyed.

The rest is coda. The impeachment, funded by right-wing activists and business interests, stormed along by a mainstream media whose Reagan-era deregulated status led to a complete breakdown in journalistic ethics, and all buttressed by years of unsubstantiated scandals pushed along by congressional zealots with subpoena power, left the American population exhausted enough to vote against their own best interests in 2000. Too many didn't vote at all. The "Clinton! Clinton! Clinton!" drumbeat that lasted over 2,000 days drove the voters into thinking a change was required. Though Gore won the election, the margin of victory was small enough to be exposed to theft by a partisan Supreme Court which, by rights, should not have come within a country mile of touching that case. A corrupted news media, again, pushed the whole farce along.

Now, we have a nation run by profiteers who preach the gospel of privatization in all things. When Bush, on October 4, 2001, argued that more massive tax cuts for rich people were needed to "counteract the shockwave of the evildoer," while a pall of poison smoke still hung over New York City, the truth was there for all to see. Now, pollution controls have ceased to exist, and the private realm of defense contractors are seeing more money than they ever dreamed they could. The simple truth that the Federal government can be a force for good within the American populace, a truth realized in 1998, has been flushed down the toilet by a pack of right-wing activists who are links in a chain of warfare that stretches back to 1932.

Mission accomplished indeed.

The fallout from this has been extreme. Trickle-down economics have returned to America, with the inevitable economic downturn and unemployment riding sidecar. The Federal Treasury, once full to bursting, has been looted completely. This, in the end, was the mission. That money could not be allowed to stay in the Treasury, because the American people would have expected it to be used to fund the programs they depend on. The Bush administration moved every penny of that money into the wealthiest portions of the private sector, using September 11 and terrorism and fear and war as an excuse to storm the trenches their forefathers had been shooting into for over 70 years. It was a smash-and-grab robbery writ large.

When I explain all this to these Europeans, they want to know if the war is over. Not hardly, I tell them. The hubris of these zealots has led to economic problems in America that are quickly moving beyond the reach of spin. The hubris of these zealots has caused the Central Intelligence Agency to act in their own defense, a deadly turn of events for the Bush administration. The last two Presidents who found themselves on the bad side of the CIA, Kennedy and Johnson, did not end their terms comfortably. The war in Iraq, begun in no small part to further loot the Treasury, has loosed a tiger with very sharp claws. Internationally, the realization that the Atlantic Alliance is gone has begun to take root, and forces beyond the control of the Bush administration are coming together globally to act as a counterweight to all that is happening in America.

The laughable irony of it all, also, may come to aid their undoing. Consider the fact that the Bush administration worked hammer and tong to discredit the work of the weapons inspectors in Iraq in the run-up to the war. Fast-forward to today, and the administration is telling everyone to be patient, be trusting, be faithful in the weapons inspection work being done by Dr. David Kay in Iraq on behalf of the administration. The massive stockpiles of weapons we heard about ad nauseam are still missing, with the sole exception of a vial of botulinum toxin that was found, sitting spoiled in the refrigerator of an Iraqi scientist for ten long years. The essential contradiction is so blatant that the evening comedy programs in America are making hay out of it. When this kind of silliness makes prime-time, the writing is on the wall.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/101003A.shtml

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The two great myths that have settled across the nation, beyond the Hussein-9/11 connection, are that Clinton did not do enough during his tenure to stop the spread of radical terrorist organizations like al Qaeda, and that the attacks themselves could not have been anticipated or stopped. Blumenthal's insider perspective on these matters bursts the myths entirely, and reveals a level of complicity regarding the attacks within the journalistic realm and the conservative political ranks that is infuriating and disturbing.

Starting in 1995, Clinton took actions against terrorism that were unprecedented in American history. He poured billions and billions of dollars into counterterrorism activities across the entire spectrum of the intelligence community. He poured billions more into the protection of critical infrastructure. He ordered massive federal stockpiling of antidotes and vaccines to prepare for a possible bioterror attack. He order a reorganization of the intelligence community itself, ramming through reforms and new procedures to address the demonstrable threat. Within the National Security Council, "threat meetings" were held three times a week to assess looming conspiracies. His National Security Advisor, Sandy Berger, prepared a voluminous dossier on al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden, actively tracking them across the planet. Clinton raised the issue of terrorism in virtually every important speech he gave in the last three years of his tenure. In 1996, Clinton delivered a major address to the United Nations on the matter of international terrorism, calling it "The enemy of our generation."

Behind the scenes, he leaned vigorously on the leaders of nations within the terrorist sphere. In particular, he pushed Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif to assist him in dealing with the threat from neighboring Afghanistan and its favorite guest, Osama bin Laden. Before Sharif could be compelled to act, he was thrown out of office by his own army. His replacement, Pervez Musharraf, pointedly refused to do anything to assist Clinton in dealing with these threats. Despite these and other diplomatic setbacks, terrorist cell after terrorist cell were destroyed across the world, and bomb plots against American embassies were thwarted. Because of security concerns, these victories were never revealed to the American people until very recently.

In America, few people heard anything about this. Clinton's dire public warnings about the threat posed by terrorism, and the massive non-secret actions taken to thwart it, went completely unreported by the media, which was far more concerned with stained dresses and baseless Drudge Report rumors. When the administration did act militarily against bin Laden and his terrorist network, the actions were dismissed by partisans within the media and Congress as scandalous "wag the dog" tactics. The TV networks actually broadcast clips of the movie "Wag The Dog" to accentuate the idea that everything the administration was doing was contrived fakery.

The bombing of the Sundanese factory at al-Shifa, in particular, drew wide condemnation from these quarters, despite the fact that the CIA found and certified VX nerve agent precursor in the ground outside the factory, despite the fact that the factory was owned by Osama bin Laden's Military Industrial Corporation, and despite the fact that the manager of the factory lived in bin Laden's villa in Khartoum. The book "Age of Sacred Terror" quantifies the al-Shifa issue thusly: "The dismissal of the al-Shifa attack as a scandalous blunder had serious consequences, including the failure of the public to comprehend the nature of the al Qaeda threat."

In Congress, Clinton was thwarted by the reactionary conservative majority in virtually every attempt he made to pass legislation that would attack al Qaeda and terrorism. His 1996 omnibus terror bill, which included many of the anti-terror measures we now take for granted after September 11, was withered almost to the point of uselessness by attacks from the right; Jesse Helms and Trent Lott were openly dismissive of the threats Clinton spoke of.

Clinton wanted to attack the financial underpinnings of the al-Qaeda network by banning American companies and individuals from dealing with foreign banks and financial institutions that al Qaeda was using for its money-laundering operations. Texas Senator Phil Gramm, chairman of the Banking Committee, killed Clinton's bill on this matter and called it "totalitarian." In fact, he was compelled to kill the bill because his most devoted patrons, the Enron Corporation and its criminal executives in Houston, were using those same terrorist financial networks to launder their own dirty money and rip off the Enron stockholders.

Just before departing office, Clinton managed to make a deal with the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development to have some twenty nations close tax havens used by al Qaeda. His term ended before the deal was sealed, and the incoming Bush administration acted immediately to destroy the agreement. According to Time magazine, in an article entitled "Banking on Secrecy" published in October of 2001, Bush economic advisors Larry Lindsey and R. Glenn Hubbard were urged by think tanks like the Center for Freedom and Prosperity to opt out of the coalition Clinton had formed. The conservative Heritage Foundation lobbied Bush's Treasury Secretary, Paul O'Neill, to do the same. In the end, the lobbyists got what they wanted, and the Bush administration pulled America out of the plan. The Time article stated, "Without the world's financial superpower, the biggest effort in years to rid the world's financial system of dirty money was short-circuited."

This laundry list of partisan catastrophes goes on and on. Far from being inept on the matter of terrorism, Clinton was profoundly activist in his attempts to address terrorism. Much of his work was foiled by right-wing Congressional conservatives who, simply, refused to accept the fact that he was President. These men, paid to work for the public trust, spent eight years working diligently to paralyze any and all Clinton policies, including anti-terror initiatives that, if enacted, would have gone a long way towards thwarting the September 11 attacks. Beyond them lay the worthless television media, which ignored and spun the terrorist issue as it pursued salacious leaks from Ken Starr's office, leaving the American people drowning in a swamp of ignorance on a matter of deadly global importance.

Over and above the theoretical questions regarding whether or not Clinton's anti-terror policies, if passed, would have stopped September 11 lies the very real fact that attacks very much like 9/11 were, in fact, stopped dead by the Clinton administration. The most glaring example of this came on December 31, 1999, when the world gathered to celebrate the passing of the millennium. On that night, al Qaeda was gathering as well.

The terrorist network planned to simultaneously attack the national airports in Washington DC and Los Angeles, the Amman Raddison Hotel in Jordan, a constellation of holy sites in Israel, and the USS The Sullivans at dock in Yemen. Each and every single one of these plots, which ranged from one side of the planet to the other, was foiled by the efforts of the Clinton administration. Speaking for the first time about these millennium plots, in a speech delivered to the Coast Guard Academy on May 17, 2000, Clinton said, "I want to tell you a story that, unfortunately, will not be the last example you will have to face."

Indeed.

Clinton proved that Osama bin Laden and his terror network can be foiled, can be thwarted, can be stopped. The multifaceted and complex nature of the international millennium plots rivals the plans laid before September 11, and involved counter-terrorism actions within several countries and across the entire American intelligence and military community. All resources were brought to bear, and the terrorists went down to defeat. The proof is in the pudding here. September 11, like the millennium plots, could have been avoided.

Couple this with other facts about the Bush administration we now have in hand. The administration was warned about a massive terror plot in the months before September by the security services of several countries, including Israel, Egypt, Germany and Russia. CIA Director George Tenet delivered a specific briefing on the matter to the administration on August 8, 2001. The massive compendium of data on Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda compiled by Sandy Berger, and delivered to Condoleezza Rice upon his departure, went completely and admittedly unread until the attacks took place. The attacks themselves managed, for over an hour, to pierce the most formidable air defense system in the history of the Earth without a single fighter aircraft taking wing until the catastrophe was concluded.

It is not fashionable these days to pine for the return of William Jefferson Clinton. Given the facts above, and the realities we face about the administration of George W. Bush, and the realities we endure regarding the aftermath of September 11, the United States of America would be, and was, well served by its previous leader. That we do not know this, that September 11 happened at all, that it was such a wretched shock to the American people, that we were so woefully unprepared, can be laid at the feet of a failed news media establishment, and at the feet of a pack of power-mad conservative extremists who now have a great deal to atone for.

Had Clinton been heeded, the measures he espoused would have been put in place, and a number of powerful bulwarks would have been thrown into the paths of those commercial airplanes. Had the news media been something other than a purveyor of masturbation fantasies from the far-right, the American people would have know the threats we faced, and would have compelled their Congressmen to act. Had Congress itself been something other than an institution ruled by narrow men whose only desire was to break a sitting President by any means necessary, we would very probably still have a New York skyline dominated by two soaring towers.

Had the Bush administration not continued this pattern of gross partisan ineptitude and heeded the blitz of domestic and international warnings, instead of trooping off to Texas for a month-long vacation, had Bush's National Security Advisor done one hour's worth of her homework, we probably would not be in the grotesque global mess that currently envelops us. Never forget that many of the activists who pushed throughout the 1990s for the annihilation of all things Clinton are now foursquare in charge of the country today.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/101303A.shtml
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:39 AM
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1. Simply Outsanding. Thank you!!!
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:31 AM
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51. But this leaves out the CIA rebound of post-60s fascism.
(I think this article about the rise of the American Ruling Class after WWII with the CIA controlling the press and organizing business is a must read to see how we got to what Seymour Hersh calls a 'cult' running the White House today.-JOM)

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-overclass.html
(The Origins of the Over Class, by Steve Kangas)
>snip<

The CIA to the rescue

In the mid-1970s, at this historic low point in American conservatism, the CIA began a major campaign to turn corporate fortunes around.

They did this in several ways. First, they helped create numerous foundations to finance their domestic operations. Even before 1973, the CIA had co-opted the most famous ones, like the Ford, Rockefeller and Carnegie Foundations. But after 1973, they created more. One of their most notorious recruits was billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife. During World War II, Scaife's father served in the OSS, the forerunner of the CIA. By his mid-twenties, both of Scaife's parents had died, and he inherited a fortune under four foundations: the Carthage Foundation, the Sarah Scaife Foundation, the Scaife Family Foundations and the Allegheny Foundation. In the early 1970s, Scaife was encouraged by CIA agent Frank Barnett to begin investing his fortune to fight the "Soviet menace." (18) From 1973 to 1975, Scaife ran Forum World Features, a foreign news service used as a front to disseminate CIA propaganda around the world. Shortly afterwards he began donating millions to fund the New Right.

Scaife's CIA roots are typical of those who head the new conservative foundations. By 1994 the most active were:

* Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation
* Carthage Foundation
* Earhart Foundation
* Charles G. Koch
* David H. Koch
* Claude R. Lambe
* Philip M. McKenna
* J.M. Foundation
* John M. Olin Foundation
* Henry Salvatori Foundation
* Sarah Scaife Foundation
* Smith Richardson Foundation

Between 1992 and 1994, these foundations gave $210 million to conservative causes. Here is the breakdown of their donations:

* $88.9 million for conservative scholarships;
* $79.2 million to enhance a national infrastructure of think tanks and advocacy groups;
* $16.3 million for alternative media outlets and watchdog groups;
* $10.5 million for conservative pro-market law firms;
* $9.3 million for regional and state think tanks and advocacy groups;
* $5.4 million to "organizations working to transform the nations social views and giving practices of the nation's religious and philanthropic leaders." (19)

The political machine they built is broad and comprehensive, covering every aspect of the political fight. It includes right-wing departments and chairs in the nation’s top universities, think tanks, public relations firms, media companies, fake grassroots organizations that pressure Congress (irreverently known as "Astroturf" movements), "Roll-out-the-vote" machines, pollsters, fax networks, lobbyist organizations, economic seminars for the nation’s judges, and more. And because corporations are the richest sector of society, their greater financing overwhelms similar efforts by Democrats.

Besides creating foundations, the CIA helped organize the business community. There have always been special interest groups representing business, like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the National Association of Manufacturers, and the CIA has long been involved with them. However, after 1973, a spate of powerful new groups would come into existence, like the Business Roundtable and the Trilateral Commission. These organizations quickly became powerhouses in promoting the business agenda.

Their efforts clearly succeeded. With the 1975 SUN-PAC decision, corporations persuaded government to legalize corporate Political Action Committees (the lobbyist organizations that bribe our government). By 1992, corporations formed 67 percent of all PACs, and they donated 79 percent of all campaign contributions to political parties. (20) In two landmark elections — 1980 and 1994 — corporations gave heavily and one-sidedly to Republicans, turning one or both houses of Congress over to the GOP. Democratic incumbents were shocked by the threat of being rolled completely out of power, so they quietly shifted to the right on economic issues, even though they continued a public façade of liberalism. Corporations went ahead and donated to Democratic incumbents in all other elections, but only as long as they abandoned the interests of workers, consumers, minorities and the poor. As expected, the new pro-corporate Congress passed laws favoring the rich: between 1975 and 1992, the amount of national household wealth owned by the richest 1 percent soared from 22 to 42 percent. (21)

The CIA also helped create the conservative think tank movement. Prior to the 70s, think tanks spanned the political spectrum, with moderate think tanks receiving three times as much funding as conservative ones. At these early think tanks, scholars typically brainstormed for creative solutions to policy problems. This would all change after the rise of conservative foundations in the early 70s. The Heritage Foundation opened its doors in 1973, the recipient of $250,000 in seed money from the Coors Foundation. A flood of conservative think tanks followed shortly thereafter, and by 1980 they overwhelmed the scene. The new think tanks turned out to be little more than propaganda mills, rigging studies to "prove" that their corporate sponsors needed tax breaks, deregulation and other favors from government.

Of course, think-tank studies are useless without publicity, and here the CIA proved especially valuable. Using propaganda techniques it had perfected at the Voice of America and Radio Free Europe, the CIA and its allies turned American AM radio into a haven for conservative talk show hosts. Yes — Rush Limbaugh uses the same propaganda techniques that Muscovites once heard from Voice of America. The CIA has also developed countless other media outlets, like Capital Cities (which eventually bought ABC), major PR firms like Hill & Knowlton, and of course, all the Agency’s connections in the national news media. (22)

The following is a typical example of how the "New Media" operates. As most political observers know, the Republicans suffer from a "gender gap," in which women prefer Democrats by huge majorities. This is, in fact, why Clinton has twice won the presidency. But, curiously enough, as the 90s progressed, conservative female pundits began popping up everywhere in the media. Hard-right pundits like Ann Coulter, Kellyanne Fitzpatrick, Laura Ingraham, Barbara Olson, Melinda Sidak, Anita Blair and Whitney Adams conditioned us to the idea of the conservative woman. This phenomenon was no accident. It turns out that Richard Mellon Scaife donated $450,000 over three years to the Independent Women's Forum, a booking agency that heavily seeds such female conservative pundits into the media. (23)

Conclusion

The most obvious criticism of the New Overclass is that their political machine is undemocratic. Using subversive techniques once aimed at communists, and with all the money they ever need to succeed, the Overclass undemocratically controls our government, our media, and even a growing part of academia. These institutions in turn allow the Overclass to control the supposedly "free" market. It doesn't win all the time, of course — witness Bill Clinton's impeachment trial — but it does score an endless string of other victories elsewhere, all to the detriment of workers, consumers, women, minorities and the poor. We need to fight it with everything we've got."
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:39 AM
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:51 AM
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6. I don't notice...
...the name Howard Dean anywhere in this essay...
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:02 AM
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23. Five words...
Howard Dean is the MAN
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:13 PM
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61. xultar, I just love your communication style *LOL* Will, you're awesome!
Will's perspective and writing is truly exceptional!!!
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:20 AM
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49. I like Dean, but does he have to be put into EVERY post?
This post isn't about Dean. Not everything on the DU is. OK?

It's good to have ammunition to say that the Democratic President most picked upon by the Republicans et al - excluding those that were assasinated - managed to do a damm good job.

Was it in spite of or because of the Republican machine torqued out at high spin during his entire administration? Who knows? The thing is when it was super hot in the kitchen, that man sat down and did his job.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Clinton was faithful to Hilary and he shouldn't have gotten blowed in the oval office, but Bush has been unfaithful to the nation and if he had his way, he'd screw us all.
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:50 AM
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3. While appreciating the many accomplishments and efforts
made by Bill Clinton, I must still ask: Why does he remain so immovably centrist? Once out of office, why is it necessary for him to belly-up to the bar with his tormentors? Why does he support so many of their policies and projects? Something just doesn't smell right...
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 09:38 AM
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20. One word answer
Hillary
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:28 AM
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50. I know centrist is a dirty word here....

but in the two party system we've had it has at least gotten us some progress. Imagine it as a tug-a-war.

You can't win a tug-a-war if you don't at least start in the middle and for years the flag has been dragged closer and closer to the right. Clinton got us back to center during his 8 years and then Bush has almost gotten the flag into Falwell's lap.

Sure it would be great to have the flag much closer to the left where clean water is a given and fuel efficient cars make sense and don't get pulled off the drawing board by oil execs afraid to lose money.

At center, at least the tug is hard enough that we get enough regulation that big business doesn't think it has a license to kill people and get away with it.

It has to start somewhere.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:21 AM
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72. License To Kill
That's what the pending "tort reform" is all about, and the so-called centrists who accept Big Money's vocabulary on the issue are not on our side.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:14 AM
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54. Well Said. That's exactly how I feel and what bothers me too...
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 04:26 AM by TheGoldenRule
I don't trust Bill or Hillary at all these days.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:50 AM
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4. This is a very good analysis of things.
It shows how petty the Republicans are.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:51 AM
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5. Thank you for posting this
Far too many are persuaded by arguments based on a few policies and catchwords, failing to grasp the complexity of the success of Clinton Presidency in it's entirety.

I would also point out, in regard your first piece about the failure of progressives to "push" Clinton, that even before his second term, most of us were so busy defending him from right-wing attacks and the Republicans in congress, with their endless "investigations", that there was no energy or will to criticize Clinton on his policies. To a certain extent, this was also true for Clinton himself, who, it seems to me, feels regret about lack of action in his second term regarding more progressive policies and agendas.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:55 AM
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7. I see the beginning of a new book, Will Pitt...
:)
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RealDems Donating Member (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:56 AM
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8. I disagree
with the idea that Clinton governed to the Right because no activated progressive base existed. All strong leaders on both sides of the political spectrum have to be willing to lead a movement, and not just buckle because one doesn't already exist.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 04:18 AM
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9. Good post! :-) n/t
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 05:58 AM
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10. Thank you, Will ... I did not know all of this.
Some, yes - but not alot. I'm a little more shaken, now. The more I learn, the more anger I feel - towards *ush, the repub politicos, myself for allowing myself to remain so blind, for so long.

Keep it coming, I fear I have so much to learn & so very little time.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 06:02 AM
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11. I like this piece, Will... but I have an observation
Edited on Wed Jan-26-05 06:04 AM by wyldwolf
Clinton is labeled 'Republican' by the Left because of the passage of NAFTA, of GATT, of the Welfare Reform Act, of the Telecommunications Act...The passage of these rightist packages...

While these "packages" have certainly benefited those on the right much more so than those on the left (and have actually hurt the left as well), many variations of several of these had Democratic support all along.

Kennedy, Johnson, and FDR himself was in favor of some type of welfare reform. Clinton ran on the topic I believe.

Many Democrats were in favor of NAFTA but have since called for it to be modified or scraped.

Hindsight is always 20/20.

Yes, I know there were always people on the left warning against these measures but we can't lay it entirely at Clinton's feet nor can we say they were totally "rightist." Perhaps a better description would be that they did little or nothing to help the working class.

But I agree fully about Clinton lacking the progressive network to back him. Sure, there are always fringe professional protestors on the left, but they hate everything to do with "working for the man."
They, themselves, hated Clinton in '92. For each good thing Clinton accomplished, they would say, "it isn't enough." For every bad thing, their cry was, "corporatist pig! See, I told you so!"

So, yes, it did take the impeachment to wake the base up and nudge the (as Michael Moore calls them) professional left into action in defense of Clinton.

And, indeed, people did vote against their own interests in 2000. Just as we appease a crying child with candy so it will hush, many voters grew weary of the "Clinton drumbeat" from the right and may very well have voted for Bush so they would just shut up!

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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 03:40 PM
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36. Many Democrats were in favor of NAFTA but have since called for it to be m
"Many Democrats were in favor of NAFTA but have since called for it to be modified or scraped."


There is NO WAY this criminal legislation passes w/o Clinton and the DLC suckering the Dems.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 04:05 PM
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38. such emotion
...and so little credit to the Dems.

"suckered."

Bwahahahahaha!
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 07:07 AM
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12. Excellent, well reasoned and eloquent, thanks Will
This is the sort of thing that makes me come back to DU when I get tired of all the intraparty negativity that goes on here.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:34 AM
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52. I agree, this is food for thought. High Quality imput. n/t
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 07:49 AM
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13. They opposed Clinton because he wasn't radical enough
and if you provide rationale of Clinton's failing as lack of progressive support then, why does he oppose it now?

Clinton slowed the process, he didn't oppose it. He represented the superficial "middle-class"--the Yuppie era.

Terrorism is the tool, not the cause in and of itself. Had Clinton actually been "even-handed" instead of trying to pass off "Barak's generous offer" as a legitimate settlement of the I/P conflict, he would've done more to defang terrorism than any security of US infrastructure.
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mirrera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 07:54 AM
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14. Good history...but
I could be wrong because I am new to history, but wasn't Clinton involved in the Iran Contra drug running out of a small air strip in Mena Arkansas? The fact that he is doing relief work with Poppy Bush seemed strange. Is that just a rumor?

One other big missing piece of your history is to paint 9/11 as a blunder. After reading Richard Clark's book "Against all Enemies", I also came to understand Clinton's accomplishments and saw 9/11 as a blunder. Now I am reading "Crossing the Rubicon" and there is so much more— well documented —information available, that it becomes more difficult to believe in error. For instance when you mention that no aircraft were launched after the attack, most people do not know that there were many war games going on simultaneously ON sept. 11. They are never brought up at the 9/11 hearing, but they are now documented in the book. Someone was running all those games, one of which was a "hijacking". Cheney had to have known according to the areas that Bush put him in charge of. Many of the AlQaida members were assets of the CIA and we are very good at intercepting their communications. There are FBI agents that have come forward to say they were stopped from certain investigations that may have stopped 9/11. The same Security Supervisor did the stopping again and again, and has since been promoted. There was MAJOR insider trading, people counting on the stocks of the airliners going down. It was covered in the press (like Ohio was covered), then it wasn't. The more the dots (many of which, like Clinton's successes, are kept out of the Corporate Media) are connected, the harder it is to believe this was a blunder. And I WANT to believe it was stupidity, but the fact that they are gaming our election system, gaming our media, gaming our money, and gaming our constitution, takes away the stupidity scenario. I think only when we realize the extent to which these characters will go, can we realize the danger.

Oh and OIL. Oil has peaked, and Cheney's energy meeting, the one where he won't reveal who was present, had to have discussed this.

If the planet's last oil reserves were based in unstable parts of the world, everything in our society is based on oil, and "The American way of life is not negotiable"....how far would these guys go?

I just heard a great line yesterday, I can't remember where it was something to the effect of "If you call me a conspiracy theorist, can I call you a coincidence theorist?"
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 09:10 AM
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17. Oh, gee
"Clinton involved in the Iran Contra drug running out of a small air strip in Mena Arkansas"

That this right wing trash could even be posted on a site like DU is a terrible thing.


But, Will, great work by you. We truly needed this at this very moment. :thumbsup:
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mirrera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 08:21 PM
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41. I was honestly asking if this was a rumor...
Right wing? If you knew who I was you would be ROTFL... But at least I know I can "pass".. jesus..woops...f-ck...oops
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:58 AM
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56. I wasn't referring to you as right wing
But to the rumor you posted and its ultimate source. If you haven't read it already, Joe Conason examines this history in The Hunting of the President, tracking it to where all such crap originated. It took them ten years to infect the country with falsehood and scandal about Bill Clinton; this good work by right wing deceivers is still paying off if we can this see it repeated on a site like DU.

No personal offense to you intended, though :hi:
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mirrera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:49 PM
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62. Wow, I will definitely have to read that!
I am not kidding, it has shown up in things I have read, and it sounded plausible. I am honestly trying to learn history (I was stoned in High School). I learned for the FIRST time during Kucinich's campaign, who I was for and pushed at our tiny caucus in small town Maine, that the press is totally corrupt. I knew it on an intellectual level, but with my awareness of how Kucinich was not covered, or worse, dismissed, it became a reality. From that moment on I have been reading books. I just joined Netflix and the Hunting of the President documentary is on my que of movies. I am SO encouraged to hear this is not true! Any book recommendations are greatly appreciated, and I hope I didn't freak anyone out!

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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:41 AM
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53. Ahhh, now I know why my husband's Aunt from Arkansas thought
Clinton was such a bad guy. She must have been immersed in that whole Iran Contra rumor. She's such a caring and generous person and it's so hard to understand why she's repub.... She's smart as a whip on some things, but closed minded on others.

How she missed the part of Ollie North and Reagan is beyond me.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:07 AM
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57. Yeah, in Arkansas
They really worked it and worked it, way before it started coming out to the rest of the country. I imagine it's very hard for anyone to know what to think in what must have been the central pressure cooker for these lies.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 07:01 AM
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68. as someone in the middle of that pressure cooker ...
I thought it was horseshit and the part that the gop ALWAYS forgets to mention is that Asa Hutch, the Bob-Jones bastard of the 3rd district, was the US Attorney during the time, in a far more likely position than the Governor, mucho miles away, of having direct information regarding the machinitions of Ollie, et al.

Remember, the informants in the Mena Airport fingered gops, not BC.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 08:01 AM
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15. Did Bill Clinton pay you for this?
:-) Armstrong you :-)

good one.
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hollowdweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 08:10 AM
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16. This is excellent!
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 09:17 AM
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18. Good work! Bravo!
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 09:25 AM
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19. I'd say it started in 1954
The day the Supreme Court struck down segregation in public schools.

That was the genesis of the current red/blue state scenario. It was accelerated by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. LBJ was right when he said he was handing the South over to the Republicans.

The GOP has played that resentment for all its worth and has been helped along by the gradual shift in population to the South.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 09:39 AM
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21. Unfortunately Will, your words of wisdom will fall on deaf ears.
Why, because here at DU there appears to be those who have bought into the Right's attempt to destroy Clinton or there are inflitrators from the Right here to ensure that their destruction ploy contiues.

In any event. I thank you for your words. I hope people can see the error of their ways. But I doubt it. We've really lost our direction and we are destroying ourselves in the process. :cry:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 09:50 AM
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22. I read it, I didn't buy into it
It falls into the category of DUDQ as far as I'm concerned. Clinton was and remains an asshole. Flowery words of praise to his (selkf-inflicted) martyrdom notwithstanding.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:49 AM
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27. OK why dont you tell him that? Why post it to me? WTF?
:shrug:
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:02 PM
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43. If Clinton were allowed to run for President I would Vote for him a Third
time!
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:11 AM
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58. Heh
My sister, who never voted anything but Republican before 2004 and absolutely despised Bill Clinton in the '90s, says she wishes she could wake up one morning and find he'd been elected president a third time.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:06 AM
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24. Excellent work.
Progressives in 2003 who label Clinton as 'Republican' should take a long look in the mirror, and remember what they were not doing from 1993 to 1998, before casting final judgment. I am, sadly, one who has trouble facing that mirror.

I wasn't all that political in those days, so I can't say I did much, either. Never voting Republican & subscribing to The Texas Observer don't amount to a hill of beans.

Surely, all the Clinton bashers posting on this thread will be able to detail their own progressive activities between 1993 and 1998.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:07 AM
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25. Nice piece Will, but a bit faulty on Clintonian history
Edited on Wed Jan-26-05 10:16 AM by MadHound
You fault progressives on the left for not pushing Clinton in the right direction, for letting their guard down after the twelve years of Reagan/Bush, for letting the right determine the direction Clinton would go. A faulty premise, but not entirely your fault. All throughout Clinton's presidency there were massive protests against his policies, were talking in the hundred of thousands, virtually every year that Clinton was in office. Yet they didn't get into the mainstream media, a task made more difficult still by Clinton's cave to the telecom industry with the '96 Telecom Act. Yes, some journals were reporting these facts, and trying to urge Clinton to move further to the left, but they were marginalized, and Clinton also simply refused to listen to them.

Clinton also had clear evidence that he had the popular support on such issues as universal health care, with polls running in the sixty to eightieth percentile in favor of UHC. Yet he chose to cave to the AMA and insurance industry, diluting all talk of UHC with the confounding and confusing entity known as Hilarycare.

And again, he refused to be decisive when it came to the military in general. Afraid of the label "draft dodger" he set out to out-hawk the war hawks. With no enemy standing since the Soviet Union collapsed, with the public calling lound and long for the benefits of a "peace dividend", Clinton instead decided to be a hawk in order to shore up his re-election chances. The cuts to the military weren't deep at all, a mere 2.7%, and we continued to meddle into foreign conflicts where we didn't belong. Rather than actively work for peace throughout the world, we continued to intervene militarily, and ramped up our arms sales to the point where we were the number one arms supplier, selling quantities greater than every other country combined.

Clinton, when push came to shove, was simply another corporatist candidate, doing what his corporate masters asked of him. The reason why he was attacked by Republicans and their spin machinery so savagely is because they saw him as a huge threat, a Democratic president who was adroitly enacting all of the Republican programs. Such a president could banish the Republicans to the political wilderness for decades if not stopped. So they revved up their spin machine and went to work tearing him down. It succeeded to a certain extent.

But Clinton's march to the right wasn't due to lack of pressure from the left. Instead it was a move dictated by Clinton's corporate handlers, who handily shut out the voices from the left, and left progressive and liberals stranded with little recourse.

I would suggest that if you wish to research this more, you read the last few chapters of Howard Zinn's book "A Peoples' History of the United States" I would also suggest that you peruse the back issues of Mother Jones magazine for further confirmation of the lefts' activism throughout Clinton's term in office.

Clinton was a bit of relief from the hard core right during the Reagan/Bush years, but was the kind of relief one feels when one goes from getting shot to getting slapped. You aren't feeling as much pain, but you are still suffering. Clinton didn't relief the suffering of many millions of people, both here and abroad, he simply slowed the rate of damage.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:32 AM
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63. Well, some lefties breathed a sigh of relief and went slack
Mea culpa. That changed in 2000 for me and I'm working as hard as I can, partly in atonement.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 07:05 AM
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69. I disagree vehemently ...
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 07:05 AM by Pepperbelly
When Bill first drove up, he really tried for universal health care coverage and the Democrats abandoned him in the face of the insurance/hmo industry's bitter opposition. He had no support in Congress where it was needed and the party allowed the gop to make UHC a fucking punch line.

They left him swinging out on that limb with NO ONE standing by him in the fight.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:52 AM
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28. Here's a constructive reply to your post that wasn't directed to you
specifically.

"I read it, I didn't buy into it"

It falls into the category of DUDQ as far as I'm concerned. Clinton was and remains an asshole. Flowery words of praise to his (selkf-inflicted) martyrdom notwithstanding.


It was sent to me for some unknown reason. I don't know why. Seems it would be more helpful to you. Cheers...




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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:48 AM
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29. Mmmm...constructive
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 12:19 PM
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30. Great article start here, not like the one on truthout.
This was compelling from the start. Often I feel like I'm weighing through a pound of bread before I reach the sandwich meat.

There is so much good information about Clinton. This has pretty good choices.

Thanks.
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Shalom Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 12:29 PM
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31. Was it an accident that Clinton's warnings were ignored by Bush ?
Edited on Wed Jan-26-05 12:30 PM by Shalom
Remember that 9/11 was a gift to Bush, which he has used to tremendous advantage in seizing power, making America militarist, and which he has exploited with "shock and awe" pyscho-ops against Americans to steal a 2nd term.

This proves that it was to Bush's ADVANTAGE to ignore the warnings of 9/11. Since he has used this incident to INCREASE the threat of terrorism by creating a terrorist incubator in Iraq, it again demonstrates that TERRORISM IS BUSH'S FRIEND.

Take a good look at everything that happened before, during, and after 9/11, and realize IT WAS NO ACCIDENT.

We must face this horrible truth in order to see the horrible face of those who now control our country.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:17 PM
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32. Noting the date this was posted, I have to wonder about the revisitation.
This was dead on accurate, and continues to be today.

Knowing that Clinton and the Bush "people" are well aware of the social/fiscal war that they are engaged in, I have to wonder about Bill Clinton's current efforts to engage the Bushes.

The only two possibilities I can think of are:

1. Clinton knows the Bushes have already checkmated the American system of government.

or

2. Bush holds the key to Clinton getting the UN Sec. General post, and Clinton wants the post enough to make nice.

Otherwise, fantastic insights.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:54 PM
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33. or
3) The Ex-President Club has very few members and everyone else is 'common folk'.
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Bethany Rockafella Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 03:27 PM
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34. Man that is deep writing!
I think I may email these articles to the Clinton foundation.
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_Wayne_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 03:30 PM
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35. Will most of your articles have sucked in the last several months
But this one is outstanding; an enormous success, powerful, inspiring, truthful. It's vintage Pitt.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 03:47 PM
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37. Probably your most comprehensive article yet.
Salute.
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JoshK Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 06:10 PM
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39. Ugh. This is like reading comic-book history.
What's worse, the guy you are trying to build into a principled hero a la FDR is a corporate whore, who is now eagerly sucking up to the Bush family, & who has not so much as voiced a single peep against the Iraq War or the phony "WoT."

Among the many major problems in your essay, let's look at this:

When Clinton stood up in 1998, with a massive budget surplus waiting in the wings, and cried, "Save Social Security first!" he was roaring a battle cry across the trenches that had been there since 1932. .... Such a surplus would, at long last, settle the argument: An activist Federal government can be a force for good within the American populace....

This was why he had to be destroyed.


If he had to be destroyed for gallantly championing Social Security in 1998, why were the rightwingers trying to destroy him 5 years before that? And, if what Clinton really stood for was the principle that the Federal govt can be a force for good for the broad populace, why did he sell out to the corporations on NAFTA/GATT, the Telecom Act, Welfare Reform, & much else, way before 1998? You know of course that he was a Trilateralist while still Ark. Gov., & impressed David Rockefeller through that connection. Do you suppose David Rockefeller is a great supporter of economic populism?

Actually, all Clinton was, was a skillful whore. He was good at going on TV and employing the mannerisms and rhetorical devices of "liberal sensitivity," while pushing for a pro-corporate agenda.

One of the funniest things about Clinton-defenders is that they keep giving him credit for the short-lived budget "surplus." The surplus, dear friends, resulted from the stock market boom and the transient increase in capital gains taxes. The boom itself was helped along by people like Lieberman who voted to change accounting rules, so that Wall St could report falsely-inflated profits. This is not the stuff of real achievement. It's not like Clinton cut the defense budget a single penny in his whole term in office (which would be a principled and constructive way of cutting the deficit). The only thing Clinton did that deserves credit, regarding the budget, was the small tax increase on the highest bracket, passed in the summer of '93, without a single Republican vote.

And it was for THIS sort of relatively limited thing that the rightwing wanted to destroy him. That is: he only gave them 99% of everything they wanted. But they loathe anyone who doesn't give them 110%.
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mirrera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 09:32 PM
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42. At the risk of being hated...I like your post!
I agree. And I LOVED Clinton. I voted for him because i wanted health care. I knew nothing, believed everything. I still WANT to believe, but his silence is LOUD!
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:50 AM
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46. Clintons positions on these issues
Were laid out in plain enough language during his campaigns and frequent press statements. He did what he promised, realizing he lost some battles with congress.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:54 AM
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60. Criticizing Democrats is allowed....
But do you EVER post anything that's critical of Republicans?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 06:42 PM
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40. Thanks Will for taking the time
to research this and write it.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:14 PM
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44. Very nice piece but...
Edited on Wed Jan-26-05 10:16 PM by ultraist
I'm surprised you didn't include Brown vs. Board (1954)in discussing the shift in the Republican party but instead used 1964 as a marker. IMO, the Republican party started moving into a transitional era post 1954.

I noticed you didn't mention DOMA.

Great piece, but hey, it really glorifies Clinton.

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:53 PM
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45. Breathtaking!
:toast:
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:12 AM
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47. Very interesting. Made me think, the more you hear....


....about the things Clinton did behind the scenes as President, the better one understands that he WAS there - doing his job - AND that he cared about what happened to people.

I'm not saying he was perfect, but no one is.

However, the more I find out about what Bush does behind the scenes, the more I feel like I'm watching him and Chenny play Cleatus and Boss Hogg from the Dukes of Hazzard.

It's bizzare the stuff they get away with and the absolute insane abiltiy they have to lie to the camera straight faced as if butter wouldn't melt in their mouth, like they'd practised all their lives for this moment in time to hoodwink someone.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:16 AM
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48. I don't buy the Bogeman of "Terrorism" . I think it's manufactured.
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 01:17 AM by radio4progressives
And the so called "Third Way" Neo Liberalism is only a "liberal" version of Neo Conservatism. They both embrace economic poliices advancing the cause of imperialistic global hegemony.

And it's the Neo Liberal agenda that brought about the so called New Democratic Network doctrine (espoused by Simon Rosenberg and the Clintons)which is a liberal version of the Neo Cons doctrine PNAC.

Much of the text of each doctrine, is almost identical to the other. they are bookends of different shades of pink and red.

Btw, does anyone else see the odd cosmic irony that the color Red, is now associated with the Republican Party? That was Hitler's favorite color too, and China's and the former Soviet Union.

hmmm...




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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:37 AM
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55. Great piece, Will. Thank you. n/t
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:44 AM
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59. Not bad-- that is, if you're middle- or upper-class
You didn't mention that the working class didn't make much of an improvement in the 1990s.

The middle class and upper class did quite well, thankyouverymuch, while the working class got little more than a "trickle" down from on high.

The gap between the rich and poor got wider and wider, and workers wages only stopped their downward slide since the 1970s by a very small margin. In fact, due to the repeal of depression-era laws on the financial markets, more wealth "migrated" upward in the 1990s due to the easy availability of "investments" and loose credit.

Indeed, the effects of these two policies (encouraged by Clinton and Alan Greenspan) have been outright disastrous on low-income Americans. Due to wage stagnation, more working-class Americans have had to borrow money, just to keep up with what they previously earned in wages. Personal bankruptcies are spiraling out of control, and more Americans owe more money now than ever before.

Lax regulation of the securities markets (and the virtual destruction of the Glass-Steagal act-- the law that separates banking from insurance and investments) led to a free-for-all on the securities markets. More and more working-class, unsophisticated investors saw the markets as a cash machine, not aware of the true risks of investing. This led to a huge bubble which inevitably burst in 2000, causing many working- and middle-class people to lose their investments.

True, Greenspan may have been a Reagan appointee, but he was reappointed by Clinton. This is a Fed chairman who said, repeatedly, that growth of workers' wages was a BAD thing, because it "could" lead to inflation.

In retrospect, Clinton may seem progressive (even inspired when compared to what followed), but his neo-liberal "trickle-down" economic policies did little to change the declining plight of the working class in this country.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:35 AM
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64. Not to mention dramatic rises in the prison population
Mostly POWs in the War on Some Drugs. Minorities most likely to be incarcerated, though no more likely to use illegal drugs. And many then were felons, which made it harder than hell for them to vote for Gore or other Dems. Smooth move, Ex-Lax
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:31 AM
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65. You are wrong about Al-Shifa. Please correct your article.
Clinton did more than anyone ever appreciated in thwarting terror plots, but the the attack on the chemical plant was based on bogus information. I don't give a flying fuck about what the ownership papers said--terrorists have their sticky fingers into all kinds of legitimate enterprises, and Islamic ones also like to rack up street cred doing actual charitable work, like making cheap medicine. (Hamas is the best known example, here.)

The only relevant information on the subject must come from chemists, and you're treading on my professional turf here. (I hardly ever get to pull rank on the Internet based on my job qualifications, but I'm doing it now to set the record straight.) I'm posting links to Chemical and Engineering News, which you have to be a member of ACS to access on line, but if you want to follow up, I'm sure any university library would have bound copies.

Here is the initial report of 1998

http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/bottomframe.cgi?7635notw6

An intelligence official, who asked not to be named, tells C&EN, "We have acquired physical evidence in the form of a soil sample, and analysis has revealed the presence of EMPTA." EMPTA, she explains, "is a known nerve agent precursor and an indicator of VX production." It "has no commercial application, is not found naturally in the environment, and is not a by-product from another chemical process," she adds.

The official would not offer C&EN information on where the soil sample was collected (in or outside the plant), who collected it, what the sample's chain of custody had been, how much EMPTA was found, or what other chemicals were also detected. She also refused to name the lab that analyzed the sample--supposedly collected two months ago, but analyzed just last month.

Note the bolded sentences describing the information that the intelligence official refused to supply. In 1999, another article was published in which the lead chemist and the engineering firm are identified, and the collection methods, analytical methods and detection limits are all described. These folks didn't find any evidence of VX manufacture, and you'd have to be a complete moron to conclude that their statements are bogus and the people who won't tell you how they got their results the first time are telling the truth.

No Trace of Nerve Gas Precursor Found at Bombed Sudan Plant

Rouhi, Maureen, "Analytical credibility," Chemical and Engineering News, Vol. 77, No. 8, February 22, 1999.

http://pubs.acs.org/isubscribe/journals/cen/77/i07/html/7707notw4.html?emFrom=emLogin

Thomas D. Tullius, chairman of the chemistry department at Boston University, directed the study, which was executed by three European laboratories and the engineering firm Dames & Moore, Manchester, England.

Using gas chromatography/mass spectrometry, the two labs screened for 25 organophosphorus pesticides, as well as EMPTA and its hydrolysis product, EMPA (O-ethylmethylphosphonic acid). All they detected were very low levels of the common pesticides chlorpyrifos and diazinon in four soil samples from the rose garden. A gardener who tended the roses reported using diazinon, Tullius says. "There is no known chemistry by which these would break down to EMPTA," he adds.

Further studies of EMPTA and EMPA were performed by a third European lab, one certified by the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons to do chemical analyses relevant to the Chemical Weapons Convention. This lab showed that within five days EMPTA in soil is converted almost completely to EMPA. On the other hand, EMPA persists for months and likely even for years. Using liquid chromatography/mass spectrometry protocols that give high extraction recoveries and detection limits of 10 ppb for EMPTA and 5 ppb for EMPA, the lab found neither in any of the samples.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:40 AM
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66. "EMPTA in soil is converted almost completely to EMPA"
within five days. Note that the US intelligence does not say when their sample was collected, either. A plant with a large-scale operation should have substantial levels of the breakdown product all over the place, and EMPA was never even mentioned.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:04 AM
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67. Superb work, Will.
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 05:36 AM by KrazyKat
And I see that you've stirred up some Clinton detractors here -- *that's* how powerful this piece is.

:thumbsup:

On edit, I see that this piece is from 2003 -- it holds up perfectly, with the exception of your noting the possibility of *'s undoing back then.

(More) Time will tell.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 07:34 AM
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70. Bill Clinton was...
a Pres. that pleased the upper class and the conservative Dems. Now he is setting up his wife for the 2008 Pres. bid. No doubt that he is a charismatic person and a great sales person but not a exactly a friend to to Working Class. I feel that he and his wife really like to be royalty.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:00 AM
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71. and then Clinton says "I like Bush, i understand him"
Clinton didn't *have* to say that, but he did, obviously with a purpose.
What message is he trying to send to dems?

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