I guess some "Democrats" would find "acceptable" to have Mengele as AG

[RaulVB]

"Let's save the filibuster for more important things..."

I mean, standing up against torture?

...some more coffee here!

[whistle]

1. Torture is only torture if I say it is torture, otherwise it is not! Gonza

[Vanje]

2. Opposition to Mengele would be branded as bigotry

against honorable hard working Germanic people.

[G_j]

3. Gonzales OK Could Be Seen as OK for Torture Rules

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0202-01.htm

Published on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 by the San Francisco Chronicle

Gonzales OK Could Be Seen as OK for Torture Rules

by Robert Collier

After a year of near-constant revelations and allegations, the controversy over the use of torture in the war on terror is reaching its crucial moment in the Senate debate over whether to confirm Alberto Gonzales as attorney general. If Gonzales is confirmed, which appears likely, the Bush administration is likely to claim that Congress has given a firm mandate for its interrogation policies, just as President Bush said his re-election victory in November was a new mandate for his policies on Iraq.

"People who wanted a public discussion of this issue of interrogation methods have had it, for almost a year now," said John Yoo, a UC Berkeley law professor who played a key role in helping craft the administration's policies on torture when he was a Justice Department official from 2001 to 2003.

"There has been debate, press leaks, hearings. Sen. (John) Kerry could have attacked President Bush on torture during the election campaign, but in fact, he tried to outflank the president on the right on terrorism. Congress could have expanded the statute on terrorism to tighten interrogation rules, but it hasn't. The election and the confirmation of Gonzales are a sign of general support of the administration's anti-terrorism policies, which include interrogation and the Patriot Act."

<snip>
"It would send the wrong signal, it would say that Abu Ghraib-style abuses are to be winked at," said Avidan Cover, a lawyer for Human Rights First, a New York legal group, referring to the Iraqi prison that sparked worldwide outrage when abuses there were revealed last May.


..more..

[Hugin]

4. Mengele was an M.D...

Infact most of the High Command was...

Little known fact.

[MNTrueBlue]

10. Another little known fact...

Hitler was a vegetarian. Funny how a vegetarian artist turned into one of the worst monsters of history.

[Hugin]

15. Himmler was a disgruntled chicken farmer...

"Himmler returned to poultry farming for a time but was singularly unsuccessful in the business of raising chickens."

Maybe that's why they put him in charge of the camps?

http://www.thirdreich.net/Himmler_Bio.html

[saracat]

5. Good one!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

6. Well, you know, we can't win without the "moderate" Nazis.

I'm sure the DLC would be happy to send you charts and colored graphs to support that obvious fact.

[RaulVB]

7. Right...

You can't "alienate the Southern KKK voter..."

[MNTrueBlue]

8. This all reminds me of...

...an old co-worker. I used to work at a gas station with a guy that was a conservative pig in the worst way. One of the regulars at the store was a skinhead, tattoos of SS soldiers and everything. My co-worker had this to say about him one night, "You know, other than being a skinhead, he's a really nice guy." Yeah, Reinhardt Heydrich (architect of the Holocaust) was a dedicated family man, too but that doesn't overshadow his wrongs.

[AntiCoup2K4]

9. The Fuhrer is entitled to select his own cabinet, right?

That seems to be the rationalization for allowing Speedy the war criminal. Dr Joe has promised every Senator who votes for him a nice new lampshade.

[JNelson6563]

11. Well there's really no

hard evidence....

Some people are so happy in the land of head-up-their-ass that they'd actually have to see the skin lampshades being made before they'd believe it, no matter what.

It makes capitulation and selling out easier to reconcile in a mind uncluttered with facts and reality. This is how people are easily manipulated by cults etc. They refuse to believe things they don't want to be true and so are happily led down a path of willful ignorance. Makes me wish there was a hell....

Julie

[electropop]

12. No hell?

I think there is one, and we're in it. I know now how decent Germans felt in the 1930's. Can we stop the madmen?

[Hugin]

16. "They Thought They Were Free"

Interesting article along those lines electropop.

http://www.thirdreich.net/Thought_They_Were_Free.html

[electropop]

17. Makes my blood run cold.

I think I heard somebody read that article on Air America recently, but it chills me again to see it in type. Substitute a few names, and it's about Bushit Inc.

[Hugin]

18. Yeah... No kidding...

I happened on it just now while I was looking to see if
there were any lawyers among the members of the last Reich.

That article chilled me to a standstill.

[Cocoa]

13. there will be a nearly party-line vote on Gonzales

we are the anti-torture party! :bounce:

[Fleshdancer]

14. I agree. If human rights aren't important enough to filibuster for...

then someone please educate me on what is. :shrug: