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mumon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 10:42 AM
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Good meme on Social Security : They're waging "generational warfare."
Remeber class warfare? Well, go to the story linked on my blog today (http://mumonno.blogspot.com/2005/02/why-is-bush-waging-generational.html) and it's clear that's what Bush is doing- pitting one generation against another.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 10:56 AM
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1. "Generational warfare." I like that. - n/t
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 10:56 AM
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2. bush's plan hurts young people even more
charts presented on the Senate floor yesterday citing several different sources including the Congressional Budget Office showed that young people would actually be worse off with "privatization" than older people ...

so, not only is bush's generational warfare divisive, but it actually does the most damage to the age group he's trying to sell his case to ...
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 11:16 AM
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3. RW has been doing it for decades. Ever go to one of those communities
that limits residents to 55 years or older? They incorporate and practice age discrimination so they don't have to fund schools! If that isn't generational warfare, I don't know what is! Those places are pretty far right on the political scale.

Have heard so many comments along the lines of: 'Our kids are grown, why should we have to pay for schools now?' from the good Americans in these towns without children in the sunny Southwest. If you push them and ask about their grandkids' educational needs, they generally respond that their grandkids are in Minnesota, North Dakota, Illinois, or other nasty climate, so why should they pay to educate kids in AZ, NM, NV, or other arthritis friendly climate? If you ask them if they expect to be cared for by well educated medical staffs, pharmacists. doctors, nurses in their old age, they will say 'Hell Yes!'. When you ask them how those trained professionals are to be educated, they will change the subject.

Well, those retirees will not have to worry about their Social Security. They have been getting paid for a nice long while. But the people they stiffed by leaving and not engaging in the civic responsibility of helping pay for education of the next batch of youngsters, well, those people better worry about what the RW has in store for them now.

Many of the more affluent seniors who have been getting checks paid for from current payroll deductions ducked out on paying property taxes to educate the next generation of wage earners/payroll tax payers. They left for the "Seniors Only" scene and low property taxes. That means tax burden for others rose in their absence.

Those who shouldered that additional tax burden to pay for education now face the prospect of workers after them NOT paying into the system they need to help in their old age.

The boomers paid for the older generation's dotage, and that is good. So now they are getting long of tooth and frail of body and looks like the rug gets pulled out from under many of them by a scheme to sucker younger workers into 'investing' part of their payroll taxes in the stock market. Yep, that'd be the same stock market which took millions of boomer voluntary investment $$ down the corporate crapper just recently.

Generational Warfare indeed. And as with any war the neocons instigate, there will be profiteers. Again, as in any war the neocons instigate, those making the $$ will NOT be the same as those making the sacrifices.

The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Until the poor have nothing to lose and have to resort to eating the rich. Ah, the tragic lessons of history which go unlearned...
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mumon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 02:02 PM
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4. Good point...
Remember: the Repubs only win if they divide Americans. Let's call 'em on it.

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cattleman22 Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 04:33 PM
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5. SS is a generational transfer of money from the poorer generation to the
wealthier generation.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 04:49 PM
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6. Salon Article from August - Generational Just One Trap
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http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2004/08/25/bush_second_term/index.html

And you thought his first term was a nightmare
What Bush has planned for America if he wins.
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By Charles Tiefer


Aug. 25, 2004 | .... Under Bush's slogan of an "ownership society," the Republicans intend a long-term effort, using changes in Medicare, Social Security and taxes to pit better-off and worse-off Democrats against each other, offering all-but-irresistible incentives for some to desert the others -- and any progressive national coalition. .... A second-term Bush agenda will constantly impale Democrats on the dilemma of abandoning their poorer, sicker, older and minority groups, or seeing their better-off, healthier and younger members lured off to the other party. If it sounds like a political nightmare for the Democrats, that's because that's what it is planned to be. ....

********UNQUOTE*******

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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 04:52 PM
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7. They have always found ways to divide the people.
Vietnam Vets against Vietnam Vets (Swiftboats)

So called "extreme left" - liberal - moderate

Republican - Democrat

Moderate - Neocon

Healthy - Disabled

Rich - Poor

Religion - Religion

Race - Race

Young - Old

Elite - Average Joe

Hollywood - Average Joe



They have turned this country into a "ME Society", some people don't want to help out those less fortunate and greed has become the norm.

These people never mention the word "compassion", it doesn't exist. Orwell at his finest.


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