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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 01:51 PM
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You want to start a writing campaign to oust Britt Hume?
I would want us to write the FCC, our two senators, our congressional rep, FOX News, and other big news sources (including CBS). I would like for us two send out more than 5000 letters to call for the resignation of Britt Hume. I would like bloggers to continually post about Britt Hume's lies. We have a better grass roots voices.

Swamp all media with letters, Whose with me?
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 01:53 PM
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1. Brit's on a CABLE news channel
So the FCC doesn't have much influence - only BROADcasters. But it wouldn't hurt to get the meme going that Faux is complete sell-out to anything coming from the White House.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 01:54 PM
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2. Sure, why not?
I don't think he'll resign or be forced out, but I have no problem with spreading the word on what a phony he is.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:04 PM
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3. We better do something! Bill Bennett is already quoting his BS!
I am outraged about this and we cant let them keep dong this. I am in like Flin.
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andyhappy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:19 PM
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4. it wont matter
Edited on Wed Feb-09-05 02:20 PM by andyhappy
its fox news that needs to go.

Get rid of Brit and they will just replace him with some other right wing mouth-piece.

whatever happened to Al Gores liberal news network! We need a voice on the TV! We need something big out there to fight the echo chamber that is the right and the over-bloated news networks.
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borg5575 Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:36 PM
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6. No
Fox news is very biased in favor of the Republicans, but it doesn't "need to go" as you put it.

We progressives need to support the concept of free speech. Fox has a free speech right to say what they want to. It's up to us to counter what they say.

I agree that we need a liberal news network to counter Fox, but Fox should be allowed to stay on the air and so should Mr. Hume.

I know that you have the best of intentions, and Fox frustrates me too, but Fox has a right to exist whether we like them or not.
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 03:12 PM
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8. I agree - they have the right to air opinions
Where I draw the line is when they out-and-out lie. There should be some mechanism that requires FOX to correct misstatements made by their anchors and guests, but there isn't (newspapers, for example, print corrections, but FOX's lies float out there forever without correction).
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 03:38 PM
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11. Hey Moggie
Once we get our website up and running perhaps these are the kinds of things we can try to impact.
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borg5575 Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 04:59 PM
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16. In America...
people should even have the freedom of speech to lie.

I don't like their lies anymore than you do, but if we try to take them off the air then the Rethug side might be tempted to use those same tactics to take progressive viewpoints off the air too. How would you like it for instance if they claim that lies are being told on Air America so it needs to be taken off the air? (It wouldn't surprise me if they are trying that already BTW.)

We need to fight the lies told on Fox tooth and nail. My only problem is with people who advocate actually trying to force Fox off the air.

A caveat to my statement is that a boycott of Fox would be a different story. If their ratings go way down due to a boycott and they are losing money and they die of their own volition, that's fine with me. In fact, I'd love to see that happen. But that's not forcing them off the air. That's just the power of the people at work. But unfortunately we have a long ways to go in that regard since Fox is the highest rated cable news network.
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andyhappy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 03:23 PM
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9. I disagree
Edited on Wed Feb-09-05 03:24 PM by andyhappy
Free speech is well and good but it doesn't mean anyone can say anything they want at anytime. You can't shout 'fire!' in a crowded theater and a news channel shouldn't be allowed to lie and distort under the guise of fair and balanced news.

if coca-cola came out with a commercial saying that pepsi causes cancer there would be a million lawsuits, but then these 'news guys' can say whatever they want and nobody calls them on it.

on edit --
welcome to the DU!
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simcha_6 Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 03:42 PM
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12. Good point
Does anyone know how Gore's station is going? We need to figure out some way to oust Faux on all its lies and misstatements, but we'd probably be better off getting a liberal alternative for now.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 04:21 PM
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14. SOoooooooooooooooo... maybe we just let everything he spews
Edited on Wed Feb-09-05 04:23 PM by calimary
stand, unchallenged? Or we send him a message, so he knows that not everybody who's WATCHING him is a dittohead.

I say go for it.

All's fair in love and war (and news - and "neww").

CALL HIM ON IT. DON'T GIVE HIM A FREE RIDE. DON'T MAKE IT EASY FOR HIM, or for ANYBODY on the Pox "news" channel.

Here's my suggestion, humbly but earnestly submitted:

Any time, and I do mean ANY time you hear some wrong-winger or wrong-winger in sheep's clothing, like a judy woodruff or paula zahn or wolf blitzer or joe scarborough or tweety or george will or ANY of those pundit types, go into thermonuclear war mode (hey, the republi-CONS would do no less if they felt they were attacked). STORM them with angry emails, faxes, letters, phone calls. SAME THING for anything you read in any newspaper, magazine, weekly, or online whatever. RESPOND. And do so QUICKLY. RAPID RESPONSE is EVERYTHING. They should know that whatever it is that they're trying to do to tear down Howard Dean will NOT be tolerated.

Like, for example, your dog keeps trying to jump on you when you want him to stay on all fours, do you keep letting him do it with no behavior correction, or do you give him a firm, loud "NO!" immediately upon the offense, so the dog will connect the two? When you're trying to potty-train your kid, is one time enough to take him or her to the potty, just assuming he/she will get it instantly, or is it something you need to do over and over and over and over until it finally sinks in?

Same thing with this.

And not only that, but...

I posted this in the Jeff Gannon QUITS thread - in the context of - well, we outed this one guy, but in the grand tradition of you-see-one-cockroach-on-the-wall-it-means-there-are-thousands-more-behind-the-woodwork, we DO have to be aware that there are others. Just as it's REEEEEALLLLY easy for bush to boast about all the al Qaeda leaders depicted on those playing cards who have been arrested or killed - uh - excuse me, but you don't think for one instant that there aren't hundreds of others who've streamed in to take their places? Funny, they never mention THAT. Anyway, the best thing to do, I think, is to UNDERSCORE, as ruthlessly and relentlessly as possible, that you are ONTO THEM and you won't let go until they start doing their jobs and start telling the truth. So I sugggest the following strategy (in response to a poster who called his satellite company to complain about the fraud being perpetrated, in this Jeff Gannon contest):

Follow up to the company with a paper letter. If, by any chance, you got the name of the fellow you talked to, send it to him ALSO.

I say ALSO because at the bottom of your letter, make sure you CC: it to a number of other people:

This company's competitors. An Eliot Spitzer (NY attorney general) type if you have one even remotely near you or your state level, your local newspaper(s), perhaps a larger regional newspaper, your local news radio station(s), your local TV station(s), your congressman/woman, your two senators.

Yes, I know it's a lot of work. Mostly Xeroxing. And, yes, postage. But isn't it worth the price of one visit to the snack bar or the latte counter? Emailing this won't do that much. People don't always pay a lot of attention to emails and they're easily deleted so nobody else has to know. This way, a LOT of other people know and see this. Furthermore, a paper letter can get copied and posted on the bulliten board in the lunch room or passed around among those of like mind, who might - just might - be motivated to show some guts on their own. You MUST figure that if you feel this way, there HAVE TO BE many others who do also, but just haven't had the time or the inclination to do something about it the way you have.

I read an article (posted here, once upon a time) about a lady who participated in an anti-war rally in New York City during the run-up to the Iraq war (so this was, obviously, awhile ago). She later read, and got ticked off by, the coverage of said rally in the New York Times. As expected, they low-balled the crowd-size estimate. She knew the truth because she'd been there and seen its far-larger size for herself. So she complained. Here's how: She wrote a letter to the Times. But she didn't stop there. She CC:ed it to several departments at the Times, I believe LTTEs, news desk, president of the company, and the reporters responsible for the actual story. And she didn't even stop THERE. She further CC:ed that same letter to the main competition of the Times (the Washington Post) AND, I believe, to Editor & Publisher or some such publication/website that's seen by A LOT of news people from all over - so, in effect, a WHOLE LOT of people, including its competitition, could see and enjoy that the Times was being outed for lousy reporting. There was a correction printed almost immediately.

If this woman had merely sent one little little-guy complaint, it would have been seen for the weight and influence it had - one little piece of paper from one litte-guy type who didn't have much clout. She made it a WHOLE LOT beefier and more effective.


Here's the thread this was in, originally:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 03:32 PM
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10. Yes it will, here is why.....
If you make enough fuss it will at the least paint Fox News as propagandist. Or it all goes well, it may just get rid of Hume. We all complain here that no one does anything, why not do something?
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andyhappy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 04:06 PM
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13. reluctantly i agree
but the gen x'er in my says why bother.

you are right though, you are right. We have to fight these guys and expose them for the quacks that they are ...though sadly I think that their viewers will not care.

the more the right fought clinton and called him a liar and no war for monica blah blah blah, the more we all (democrats) loved him. Its the same way with Bush. It doesn't seem like any amount of information changes the allegiance of the people who support these guys.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 04:31 PM
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15. And HOW. Remember the scene in, I think, "Jurassic Park 2"
in which one of the big blustery guys was in the woods, and one of those little bitty "yapping dog"-type dinosaurs came up to him. He sneered at it and kicked it out of the way. But it came back. He sneered and scared it off again. But then, it came back with a buddy. He still sneered, but you could tell he didn't care for this terribly much. He scared them off - but not very far off. Then they came back. With more buddies. Now he's not sneering anymore. He's backing away. They advance. More of their buddies suddenly appear, and they advance, too. He REALLY doesn't like this now, and backs away until he trips and falls. All of a sudden, they're on him like sharks on a piece of raw meat. And suddenly, he's a goner.

Think about it. That's what the "buckhead" types did to Dan Rather. Who the hell is Brit Hume that he's entitled to be immune?
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:20 PM
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5. Franken played Hume and showed him as propagandist!
Hume quotes FDR saying what sounds like he is supporting the shift to private accounts (back in 1939). But, hardly suprising, its out of context, totally, and it lays Hume out as a propagandist, this is not lieing, its deliberate misleading! So Hume and basically all of FOX "NEWS" needs to be removed from the air! I suggest boycotting there sponsers, and write the sponser so they know why! PROPAGANDA is the keystone to bush's control!
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 03:02 PM
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7. He lives one town over from me
here in northern VA. Unlike other folks who live around here (Willard Scott, Steve Case, etc.) I NEVER see him out in the "real" world.

I'd be happy to relay any messages if I do, however... :)
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