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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 07:30 PM
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Gannon story should be about Plame, not gays.
They are scared of the Gannon story. All this stuff about gayness, about liberal bloggers, that's all noice meant to distract people. Lies or unimportant crap to get people yelling about anything, ANYTHING, but what they are truly afraid of.

Don't loose focus!

Gannon recieved a memo that outed Plame. He is a right winger, planted by the WH into the WH press corp in order to promote the spread of WH propoganda. AND HE RECIEVED THE PLAME MEMO.

He links the Plame outing to the White House. Plain and simple.

Any other fact is unimportant filler compared to the Plame-WH link.

Connections to the gay community are either lies or embarassing, but not Key. Raising kane about the actions of liberal bloggers is pure smokescreen.

But they reacted to this hard, and reacted to it fast. They are afraid. Don't let them shake you from the one key fact.

Gannon Links the Plame Outing to the White House.
Gannon Links the Plame Outing to the White House.

Don't forget it. Don't loose sight of it. Note who tries to distract you from it, and thus learn who the enemy is.

Think DU.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 07:36 PM
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1. "Gay Pimp Who Outs Plame Had Special White House Access"
;)

We heard all about blue dresses and cigars because the media loves salacious details.

But I get the greater point. I emailed Kurtz this information, not that he cares.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 07:38 PM
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2. I agree about the distraction
This guy is obviously part of the Whitehouse media manipultation team.

If he cops a plea things could get very Watergatey very quickly.





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Steven_S Donating Member (810 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 07:43 PM
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4. Gee, I hope the poor bastard doesn't get suicided.......
I would like to see this story all the way through.

All the way.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 07:40 PM
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3. More info please
Could you link to this info. I agree it isn't about gays or liberals or bloggers. To me it's about the WH propaganda machine. How did this guy get into these briefings?
http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=346

But I'm definitely interested in the Plame connection too.
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 07:48 PM
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6. lightupthedarkness .........very interesting comments on the blog
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 08:02 PM
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10. Gannons own article
I haven't found a link directly to it, but have found links that reference it. Here's one from the Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A45953-2004Mar10¬Found=true

(Of note, there were links to the article on GOPUSA.COM site, but those links are now dead.)

In that article he chronicles an interview with Joseph Wilson, and one of the questions is this. Gannon: "An internal government memo prepared by U.S. intelligence personnel details a meeting in early 2002 where your wife, a member of the agency for clandestine service working on Iraqi weapons issues, suggested that you could be sent to investigate the reports. Do you dispute that?"

Apparently Gannon is the only reporter to have recieved that memo.

Where is it now? Who did he get it from?

We now know he was in the White House Press corp under odd circumstances, which can pretty much only have occurred with White House permission.

Since 9/11 we have been told that we need to connect the dots. I see dots.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 08:08 PM
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12. I got it
I copied it from Google cache. Or is there another one I need to try and find? I see a frickin beeline!!!

http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/gannon.htm
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 08:45 PM
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16. Been trying to find Talon Article.
Talon, GOPUSA and Jeff Gannons own site all appear to have been connected in some way, and all appear to have been somewhat shut down. In trying to find the original article with his interview I've only succeeded in finding it via search engines at Mens News Daily.

I've hesitated to use those links, as the place seems pretty questionable. Links might not be considered workplace safe by some:

Part 1:
http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/newswire/nw03/talonnews/1003/102803-wilson.htm

Part 2:
http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/newswire/nw03/talonnews/1003/102903-wilson.htm

Part 3:
http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/newswire/nw03/talonnews/1103/110303-wilson.htm
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 08:48 PM
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17. I copied it too
For future reference, I found it in Google cache and copied it on that same page I posted before, and one other article too.

I still think that we have to use him as an example, along with the 3 paid journalists, overseas propaganda news, and Penatagon news channel to make the case of what this WH is doing. Trying to get him to talk would be a bonus. But if he knows anything, I bet he does talk.

He brewed himself up a heap of trouble didn't he. People in glass houses...
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 07:46 PM
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5. Exactly!
it's unconscionable, and as he knows who leaked the memo he should be plunked in front of the Plame grand jury ASAP. You're right about the gay thing being a distraction, but then these people have no scruples about using the gays to further their agenda in any sleazy way they can, whether it is a low pandering to their base or as a distraction.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 08:36 PM
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15. He did appear before the grand jury...nt
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 07:49 PM
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7. I'd like to hear more
because it sounds like you have some information. What do you think happened with the Plame revelation? Did he plan on revealing something and the Bushies told him they would blackmail him on the gay pimp thing?

More info is desperately needed!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 07:49 PM
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8. Partly correct.
Numero uno priority - Plame - access to critical memo. Agree.

One is for the country.

The other is personal and the accusation is 'male prostitution' - not just gay. If true, it means that Republicans are not the saints and holy people they claim to be. I just love the 'bringing honor and integrity to the White House promise.

Agree, very personal, very condemning and....

the focus should be on Plame. We can't forget the leak lies and law breaking.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 07:49 PM
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9. The titillattion facttor sex will get initial traction.
I agree, but It is about both IMO when he is also a publically boastful member of the religious right.
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National Bible Reading Marathon Off To A Wet And Wonderful Start!



Rev. Michael Hall is interviewed by German Public Radio. As Mr. Jeff Gannon of Talon News Service reads at the podium, other readers wait their turn bundled in thick rain coats.

http://www.faithandaction.org/050304NBRMDay1.htm
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The sex will get attention, the treason will make them stay
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 08:56 PM
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18. Exactly! Sex always makes the politically uncaring
sit up and notice. They didn't care much about Whitewater, but Monica got the whole country to sit up. The hypocrisy of a guy who claims to be a Bible thumper running a male prostitution ring-sorry, but you HAVE to talk about it if you want people to sit through the Plame story as well.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 08:08 PM
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11. My note to Kurtz the apologist for Gannon
Dear Mr. Kurtz,

How quickly you and Wolf forget it was the Right Wing Bloggers who went after Dan Rather. They were not ‘blamed’ for improperly outing Rather for what in the end was a truthful story.

You left off the damning evidence all Americans deserve to know which is that the WH exposed classified info (Plame) to its ‘ reporter’ Gannon. Gannon has no journalistic credentials that qualify him to be where he was in the WH. He does apparently have other corrupt type creds involving gay sex and military prostitution and an association with a GOP funded fake news front, Talon. The WH used him to peddle propaganda even after Bush publicly said this practice had to end and denied knowledge of it. (Many think Bush knows Gannon and some think a photo exists of the two in close proximity to each other. It is being looked into by others.)

Why rush to cover this story, and why be an apologist for Gannon today, and place the emphasis on bloggers who merely showed the White House Press Corps was corrupted by a GOP plant. There by corrupting access to information reporters could not get because they were ignored by McClellan in favor of the hand fed questions Gannon used. The American public has a right to clean information on the activities and policies of this highly corrupt President. Perhaps you should get a wif of what clean smells like, its been awhile hasn’t it.

xxxxx xxx

America put at risk by a ‘free press’

cc: DU
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montana500 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 08:19 PM
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13. it should be about plame and gop media nm
nm
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 08:35 PM
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14. Plame and WH propaganda machine
Agreed. I could care less about the gay issue.
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