Wakeup call for Democrats! (CARTOON)

[NYCGirl]

by Mike Lane



http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=18588

[CWebster]

1. In the meantime, Dems hold their fire again.

I guess they must be waiting for that next big fight over yonder hill.

"Dems Lie Down for Chertoff

...They all took a dive, even though Chertoff doesn’t deserve the post.

A chief Ashcroft aide, Chertoff was in on some of the most anti-liberty policies of this Administration, as the ACLU notes in a devastating memodated January 28 and available on its website at www.aclu.org.

Chertoff was instrumental in the policy of rounding up Arab and Muslim men on mere pretexts after 9/11.

Chertoff was instrumental in holding them on specious material witness grounds.

Chertoff was instrumental in lifting the thirty-year ban on the FBI spying on public meetings or in houses of worship without probable cause.

Chertoff was instrumental in drafting Ashcroft’s edict to allow the government to eavesdrop on prisoner-client conversations.

And Chertoff, according to The New York Times, told the CIA it was OK to subject detainees to such torture tactics as waterboarding.

Even on procedural grounds, at least one Democrat or two should have voted against Chertoff because the Bush Administration withheld an FBI document on him that may have shed light on his knowledge of torture at Guantanamo..."


http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0217-30.htm


Not one.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

2. Alright then, you nominate a GOP candidate for the job that's qualified.

When are people here going to realize we're not going to get who we want in these posts and that no matter WHO Bush puts in his cabinet, they're going to do his bidding as he pleases?

The courts are one thing. Those are lifetime appointments that we can and should fight against viciously. The cabinet is entirely another. You simply aren't going to win. So you save your bullets for when it matters.

[CWebster]

4. If they aren't going to win

what's the harm in making a fucking stand for their own morale and integrity?

What ever happened to the "we will hold their feet to the fire" when it is just rationalization and continued justification to excuse them every single time?

How long can you tread water?

[RoBear]

7. Right.

Pick your battles. Don't try to fight them all. Fight the ones that matter.

[CWebster]

8. What is wrong with now and always as the right time?

It is sort of like picking your select battles against Hitler.

Someone said the battle wasn't with Chamberlain, but Hitler, but the point is in order to win, Chamberlain had to go--and Churchhill's mindset was to NEVER surender.

[RoBear]

10. That's what's known as a Red Herring.

How the hell did we get from the Simpleton's cabinet nominations to Hitler?

[CWebster]

11. No it's not

Don't see the irony between these remarks and the cartoon, do you?

War criminals and the like are Nazis to me, but don't let me disturb yourdismissal of the simpleton.

[signmike]

3. "Waterboarding" ? WTF?

:shrug:

[MountainLaurel]

12. A definition from Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding

And according to another source, you can see an example of this form of torture used in the film "The Battle of Algiers"

[Arkana]

5. Ain't THAT the truth

Dean is definitely the shot in the arm we needed.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

6. .....

[doodadem]

9. Trashing Dean

There was some rutabaga brain on Chris Matthews show last night, blathering about how he was just thrilled that Dean had won this position, because he was so far to the left and out of touch with the mainstream, it would finish off the Dems. That must be like, standard talking points they're handing out from the Whitehouse right now.........