thefloyd
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Sun Feb-20-05 07:39 PM
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What new ideas have the cons come up with? |
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I am watching the CCRAP conference on Cspan and all cons talk about are new ideas, They are the party of "New Ideas". What ideas are they fucking talking about? Trickle down economics? Jesus
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punpirate
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Sun Feb-20-05 07:50 PM
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1. They really don't have new ideas... |
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... that's what conservatism is all about--resisting change and new ideas. Ultimately, in the long term, it's why conservatism can't flourish--the world keeps on going and new problems arrive every day, many of which aren't amenable to the solutions always proposed by conservatives.
When your entire political philosophy can be reduced to trying to stop the hands of the clock, enhancing the power of government and aristocratic wealth accrual, you're not going to have any new ideas--just rehashes of old ones. Take peak oil, for example--the neo-cons' solution is to try to rule the world, and as quickly as possible, so as to ensure that the US continues to behave in a way that makes the problem accelerate. That's not new thinking--that's as old as humanity.
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Sun Feb-20-05 07:52 PM
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2. Well, the cons do come with new ways to lie..... |
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Not to mention con, bamboozle, and scam the american people...:eyes:
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punpirate
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Sun Feb-20-05 08:16 PM
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... they aren't very creative. The means used by them to con the public into supporting the war in Iraq (and for that matter, bombing civilians in Afghanistan) are exactly the same tactics as was used by Hitler and his people as learned from the proponents of modern advertising. More sophisticated today, surely, and immensely aided by the inherent power of television, but no different--big lies are more believable than small ones and are more likely to be believed if repeated over and over.
Every piece of legislation proposed by them, right down to the way they use titles, is a variant on the old "bait and switch" routine, which is as old as the hills.
Not long after the invasion, a significant number of people believed that Hussein helped the 9/11 attackers, that some of the hijackers were from Iraq, that there were associations between al-Qaeda and Hussein. There was no proof for any of this, but people believed it, nevertheless. Why? Because the Bushies put 9/11 and Hussein together in every paragraph they wrote and every sentence they uttered, and did so for months. That's an ancient trick--more commonly known as guilt by association. From the time that motion pictures were created, juxtaposition became a common technique--create an association between two disparate things by splicing them together.
I think you'll find that, reduced to the essentials, every tactic used by the neo-cons is an old trick. Why? Because people are still gullible, and still trust their government. If they weren't, the old tricks wouldn't work. :)
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Mich Otter
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Sun Feb-20-05 09:56 PM
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4. "Tinkle On Economics"? |
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I always picture the Republican economic plan as like a Totem pole, with the wealthiest on top, tinkling on those below. Those at the very bottom are trying to avoid drowning in all the piss they get from everyone on the Totem pole above them. "Tinkle On" economics don't seem to be working for me; I have yet to get any money from Bill Gates although he has gotten some from me.
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Sun Feb-20-05 09:57 PM
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5. well now they pass taxes to increase the loot they can steal |
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I think you will see this happening in various communities as we have here.
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Sun Feb-20-05 09:59 PM
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6. NeoClown deficit reduction: abolish the IRS, restore slavery. |
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