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snowbird42 Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 04:33 PM
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Hinchey affair
http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php

they just had a CNN piece on this Hinchey thing I heard the "Rove" word mentioned
What do you know?
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snowbird42 Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 04:37 PM
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1. Some of what Hinchey said
Congressman Maurice Hinchey (D-NY): Well, you know, they are manipulating the media, they did it in the very beginning through intimidation. They would intimidate the people in the, uh, in the press conference. And ... they would ask — they would allow questions to be asked only of people that they knew were going to ask the right kind of questions, from their point of view. And, you know, that has its effect, had, had its effect on people. People have been — people in the media have been intimidated. The media has changed in the last four years. People have changed in the last four years. They’ve had a very very direct, aggressive attack on the, on the media, and the way it’s handled. Probably the most flagrant example of that is the way they set up Dan Rather. Now, I mean, I have my own beliefs about how that happened: it originated with Karl Rove, in my belief, in the White House. They set that up with those false papers. Why did they do it? They knew that Bush was a draft dodger. They knew that he had run away from his responsibilties in the Air National Guard in Texas, gone out of the state intentionally for a long period of time. They knew that he had no defense for that period in his life. And so what they did was, expecting that that was going to come up, they accentuated it: they produced papers that made it look even worse. And they — and they distributed those out to elements of the media. And it was only — what, like was it CBS? Or whatever, whatever which one Rather works for. They — the people there — they finally bought into it, and they, and they aired it. And when they did, they had ’em. They didn’t care who did it! All they had to do is to get some element of the media to advance that issue. Based upon the false papers that they produced.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 04:38 PM
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2. First I've heard of this
Good for him. Someone is getting it and isn't afraid.
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snowbird42 Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 04:39 PM
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3. The wingers are after him
Im not sure why this was on CNN,s new blog piece.
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Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 07:15 PM
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11. They're after his seat.
n/t
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 04:41 PM
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4. Link to blog and audio
Yesterday Congressman Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) hosted a community forum in Ithaca, New York, on The Future Of Social Security.

An LGF reader was present in the audience and happened to be recording as Rep. Hinchey launched into a barking moonbat conspiracy rant worthy of Democratic Underground, telling the audience he believed the fake CBS memos were planted by Karl Rove to discredit Dan Rather, and divert attention from President Bush’s “draft dodging.”

When our reader asked Hinchey if he had evidence for these charges, he first said, “Yes, I do,” but when asked a second time he admitted he did not.

Our reader pressed the issue, “Don’t you think it’s irresponsible to make charges like that?” Hinchey replied, “No, I don’t, I think it’s very important to make charges like that ... I think it’s very important to combat this kind of activity in every way that you can, and I’m willing, as most people are not, to step forward in situations like this and take risks.”

And the crowd burst into applause and cheering. http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php

audio: http://homepage.mac.com/cfj/.Music/karl_rove_dupes_cbs.mp3
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snowbird42 Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 04:43 PM
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5. Big deal over there!!
Our first post about Democratic Congressman Maurice Hinchey’s outrageous charges is filling up with comments so fast that I’m opening another thread for discussion.
there are over 600 posts on this.
Check out the website above

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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 04:52 PM
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6. I think he's in a pretty safe district.
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Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 05:08 PM
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7. He's in the district next to mine...
I should be in his district (I live 5 minutes outside of Binghamton), but due to Pataki's recent gerrymandering redistricting, we were lumped in a district whose epicenter is Syracuse/Utica (about and hour and half away from me!)

Hinchey's district isn't that secure. If a strong repuke was run, it could go either way.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 05:34 PM
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8. Havw you heard of any
strong Repukes that would run against him. Hinchey is sort of the Bernie Sanders of NY right? We can't lose him.
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Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 06:51 PM
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9. Some of the local businessmen might run...
who are big shots in the local Repuke Party.

Former Broome County Executive Jeffrey Kraham might do it as well. He was just voted out of office in 2004 (by the slimmest of margins), but Pataki just gave him a job in his administration in order to bolster his resume. On the positive side, scandals follow Kraham around, like flies to shit, but the voters around here have a short memory and often lean repuke (UPstate NY tends to be conservative).

I've met Hinchey twice. He's a geniune nice guy and does lean progressive (although not as far to the left as Sanders).

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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 07:07 PM
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10. Then he needs to be supported.
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 07:07 PM by calimary
Calcium supplement to his spine via calls to his office (check www.congress.org for contact info for him in Washington and his district office), or maybe faxes or snail mail or emails. He needs to know he's done a good thing and that he has lots of support and approval behind him.

That's what's pushed Barbara Boxer forward.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 07:21 PM
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12. I'm in Hinchey's District
He's a very good man. I've only lived here for a few years but he is well liked by many Republicans also. He's honest and a straight shooter. He pays a lot of attention to his district and the needs of his constituents and always has competent local staff. He would be difficult to beat, but nothing is impossible if big money goes after him I suppose. He won by a landslide in 2004 but his district is a mix of somewhat Liberal pockets in a largely moderate to Conservative sea. We are blessed to have him, I would expect a moderate Democrat or Republican to hold this seat. Hinchey was one of the Representatives who signed on to the original challenge of the Ohio Electors. He is up to speed on the issue of voter fraud, and was firmly against the Iraq invasion also. You can count on progressive Democrats around here defending him.
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Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 10:40 AM
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13. The local Repuke attack apparatus is starting to go after him
They are taking a page right out of KKKarl Roves' playbook. In 2004, Rove smeared Kerry into being "the most liberal" Senator in Washington. It looks like they are starting to do the same thing to Hinchey.


http://www.pressconnects.com/today/news/stories/ne022205s149941.shtml
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