Guys, before we let the Guckert ball roll between our legs. . .

[marcologico]

Would it be so bad to politely ask Chairman Dean to speak out forcefully on this issue, and quickly? Administrations have been toppled by far less!

And wouldn't it be nice to bid an early farewell to BushCo?


au revoir!

[MADem]

1. THE STORY HAS LEGS!!!!!!!! Don Imus, GOP toady and

...general asshole, is devoting a HUGE portion of his show to Guckert and the Valerie Plame case. He and Chris Matthews are, at this writing, beating that thing like a bad piece of meat. It is WONDERFUL to hear!!! Huzzah!!!

[rodeodance]

10. yes, Imus is on the case--good to hear it this am

[KoKo]

30. This needs to be talked about by the MSM. And Tom Daschle

is the one who needs to speak out about it...not Dean. Democrats have no power to hold anything but their own hearings which no one will report on and few Dems will even show up.

This has nothing to do with Dean. The White House and Repugs should be talking about this breach of security.

White House would love to shift this argument to the Dems.

[DemoTex]

11. I had to switch off Tweety last night so maybe I missed it.

Tweety's billing and cooing and fawning over how good the Wead tapes made Bu$h look revolted me. He spent waaaaaaaay too much time gushing over that red herring. Sorry I missed any decent coverage by Tweety on Gannon/Guckert.

[MADem]

13. No, he was a call-in to Imus this morning (not last night's show)

...and he had some good input. Maybe he will get off his ass and cover it tonight on his program.

[Maraya1969]

19. Who is "Tweety" N/T

[ElaineinIN]

27. chris matthews eom

[Julius Civitatus]

32. Chris Matthews was called "Tweety" by his employees...

because he used to dye his hair with this obviously fake, bright blond color. "Tweety" seemed like a natural way to go.

Here's a cartoon of Tweety Matthews I made for Media Whores Online a few years ago:



Spittle and all!

[lojasmo]

15. Stooges like Imus and Tweety are the EXACT people

who are right to cover this crap. If dean does anything, he should talk about journalistic integrity in general. If he never mentions Gannon's name, I'll be just fine with that.

[MADem]

16. I agree--no need for Dean to get down in the mud

I think the media has finally gotten their lips around the JimmyJeff matter, so to speak. They are always so damn slow out of the gate!

[Califooyah Operative]

43. yep

and the dems in congress are getting involved, cbs too, it's got legs, and it hasn't fully died, i think we're doing ok at ignoring the bush pot story, the msm seems to have dropped it,

[La Femme]

2. Dean

Yes, I too was hoping Dean would help push this story into the spotlight. No more rolling over for the Democratic party. When these events take place, we need to use them to our advantage and stop playing nice. We've seen where "nice" gets us. Just look at the last two elections. If this had occurred under Clinton.....

[Warren Stupidity]

4. actually I think Dean ought to keep a distance

Right now gannongate needs solid investigation and reporting that is non-partisan. Like for example, how has Guckert kept himself in suits and paid the rent for the last few years? The most Dean should be doing is framing the whole thing in terms of journalistic ethics and responsibility - for example that Gannon is another symptom of a bought and paid for media shilling for the bush administration.

[FreedomAngel82]

18. I agree

I think the more the story comes out and there's more to say about it then Dean should be all over it. I think he probably knows what he's doing.

[trogdor]

3. So now we're the party of Bill Buckner?

Sorry, couldn't resist. /86 Sox

[SpiralHawk]

12. The past is over. We are the party of the 2004 Bosox

World Series Champions, and NE Patriots, holders of a newly minted SuperBowl Dynasty.

Too bad sports don't count for shit in politics...

At any rate, I think you have a good idea Marco. Dean could be a decisively effictive force in this if he just raises plainly the BIG HONKING QUESTIONS that the press is too corrupt and feeble to articulate.

[bunkerbuster1]

5. The LEAST the party could do

would be to have a page (or three) accessible from their website, if only about the FOI requests made by Dem Congresscritters.

As I'd complained last week, it's ridiculous that a search of "gannon" and "guckert" STILL yields nothing from democrats.org.

[marcologico]

22. That would be a start! n/t

[RetroLounge]

6. And if Dean did, you rag on him about it

Sorry, you have an agenda, we know it.

B'Bye...

RL

[Vinnie From Indy]

8. Bingo! You are too obvious dude! n/t

[marcologico]

37. Look if Dean does something worth praising I'll be the first to lay it on

thick. But where is he? He's the only Dem with 100% electoral immunity and he's not talking. Who the hell else is going to if he doesn't?

[sendero]

7. Why in the world..

... would you expect a party chair to do this over a sitting senator?

I won't even mention his name, but we all know who is dropping the ball here.

[marcologico]

9. Look, if Dean pumps this up as only he can, Chimpster is through,

at least legislatively and maybe altogether, and if he does, I'll change my sig to "I love Dean" and I'll mean it!

I'm not kidding. The others can't or won't, and I'd be happy to discuss why, but this is clearly a job Dean can and I hope will do.

[lojasmo]

14. Like I said before in THE OTHER THREAD. Write him!

Then you can stop reposting the same drivel here.

For my part, I'm not going to encourage him to bird-dog this relative non-issue.

[marcologico]

20. Thanks, I think we've established where you stand :)

[lojasmo]

28. As have we you....

Now let it go, please.

[KoKo]

31. This isn't Dean's problem....it's Bush's & Repugs problem....eom

[NYCGirl]

17. Lojasmo's right. Here's the information. Write or phone and ask.

I'm sure the DNC will give your suggestion the consideration it deserves.

Don't ask us to do your work for you.


Mailing Address:

Democratic National Committee
430 S. Capitol St. SE
Washington, DC 20003

Main Phone Number:

202-863-8000

[marcologico]

21. Thanks, but how about an email address?

tempis fugit! :)

edit to correct latin

[NYCGirl]

23. What's the matter? Do your damn homework.

We're tired of doing it for you.

www.democrats.org

BTW, they suggest if you want a response, you mail or phone them.

Now get off your butt and do it!

[marcologico]

24. Dean is the head of the party, and wanted to be,so the ball's in his court

If he drops it, we're screwed. It's that simple.

edit to simplify

[NYCGirl]

25. Just because you keep repeating that doesn't make it correct.

It's not a partisan issue, and shouldn't be made one.

[marcologico]

26. So now he's not the head of the party?

Make up your mind already.

p.s. I'm pulling your leg. Anyway gotsta go... bye.

[calimary]

38. BALONEY. If he drops it it makes NO difference WHATSOEVER.

Not that he'll drop it. But whether he does or not, WE NEED TO KEEP CARRYING THE BALL.

[marcologico]

40. He already dropped it. Durbin is in charge now.

But it still wouldn't hurt to let him know we'd like some action on this.

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/index.php?p=117

[John_H]

29. Yup. The "Judo Chess" crowd makes their mark on Dean

Here it is, folks: The down side of keeping all those 0-3 message people employed in the party. The dems could easily--and I mean in a heartbeat, force the whores to report this story, just by a unified effort to bring it up.

But, alas, this would involve some risk and as soon as a tiny bit of risk shows up, the Dem child-press-operatives get wobbly, start telling their bosses, also inclined to avoid conflict with bush, to run away. So they do.

Tick. Tick. Tick, folks. The Rethugs are gearing up for 06--and as the Washington Monthly points out, scouring the country for new political and communications talent. We're keeping the same local small-town dim bulbs in place, just because.....well...they're already in place.

[gulfcoastliberal]

35. Bingo!

Until the Dem's stand up and confront this illegal administration, the appeasers will continue their work of making the part irrelevant.

I am so sick of the spineless jellyfish routine. Did the "lets not attack bush" theme work during the Kerry campaign? Obviously not. I was so embarrassed by the Dem convention and how they painfully avoided criticizing *, then the repukes ran their hatefest against Kerry. Now they have this prime opportunity right in front of them and they are, as usual, scurrying away from the fight.

[Bethany Rockafella]

33. Geeze. Did you have to title your thread in those words?

:-)

[marcologico]

36. LMAO, how did that one get by me

:crazy:

[latteromden]

42. I was thinkin' the same thing! Gannon jokes are just TOO easy. ;)

[Al-CIAda]

34. Dean should sure as hell speak out on all the documented paid propaganda

and media shills. Hell, if Biden can, why can't Dean?

[marcologico]

39. forget Deano, Dick Durbin is taking control!!!

DURBIN YOU GO!!

:)



http://rawstory.com/news/2005/index.php?p=117

[zulchzulu]

41. Agreed...Dean needs to go on Meet The Russert and talk about his....

...first weeks.

He should also do a preemptive agreement with Ried, Boxer, Kerry, Biden, Kennedy and Pelosi to DEMAND AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION on the three matters of:

1. Sharing CIA information with a known homosexual prostitute with unheard off White House access to the Press Corps, thus breaching security principles and endangering the Presidency of The Untied States This information also contains possible treasonous acts upon the United States of America with links to the White House.

2. How and why was Gannon picked for the number of questions and why were they exactly phrased on Hannity's and Rush's shows?

3. How could someone like Gannon get access to the White House Press Corps when he would have had to go through security which demands CIA approval of his REAL name, which would have been easily traceable as him having gay porn web sites under his name and other breaches of security.

Others...

[sepia_steel]

44. That would be heaven.

Bye, bye, *!

[Q]

45. Why Dean?

Is this how it's suppose to work? While Dean may have an OPINION on this scandal...isn't it up to the LAWMAKERS to hold hearings and investigate this matter?

It's time that our representatives stop worrying about their careers or the next election and stand up for what's right. They need to be upfront in fighting this stuff. They have all the information and evidence they need to proceed. They just need to get on with it.

[lojasmo]

46. Exactly, last time I read up on "checks and ballances", it was congress,

and the supreme court who held the responsibility to keep the administration honest. Has something changed?

[marcologico]

47. Dean is the only Dem riding in a bulletproof train.

He can say what he wants about anything because he doesn't have to worry about any home-state military bases closing or getting Diebolded or SBVT-ed in the next election.

[fresnobill314]

48. Let Barbara do it!

Give that job to Barbara Boxer. She has grown a very large pair of testicles these days. I've already written her office about this. Send more letters to her.

But.....Let's not forget to protect the filibuster and Social Security. And the federal civil service.