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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:31 PM
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Levin ambivalent about Dean as DNC chair(fixed link I hope)
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 09:28 PM by candy331
Senator also calls for reform to Democratic primary process and

Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) expressed reservations about new Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean yesterday in the Michigan Union.

“I have mixed feelings in terms of Dean,” he said. “I think he brings some tremendous plusses to the table, in terms of his appeal to people that have never been involved. He opened up a whole new way of raising money that is healthy and successful. The minuses are that the image he brings to the party is not the image that attracts a lot of independent voters. That’s why he wasn’t nominated.”

Despite being an early favorite for Democratic presidential nominee last year, Dean, the former governor of Vermont, was unable to stop Sen. John Kerry’s (D-Mass.) momentum after Kerry won in Iowa and New Hampshire. Levin criticized the privileged position these two states hold in the nominating process.

“I would end Iowa and New Hampshire’s hugely disproportional impact on this system,” he said. “Where we go is not important to me frankly. We should alternate by who goes first, probably region-by-region. The Democratic Party is an egalitarian party. We don’t believe in privilege. Those two states have privileges that no one else has — that’s wrong.”

----www.michigandaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/02/23/421c691acc062




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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:34 PM
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1. I'll reserve judgment until after 2006, or 2008.
Until then, Dean has my full support.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:56 PM
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2. here come the disruptors--giddy at the opportunity to bash a liberal dem
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:59 PM
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3. Gee, I thought he was pretty mild in his comments, actually
Didn't seem giddy, nor like a bash. An expression of an opinion, maybe.

So let Dr. Dean prove him wrong, then.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:01 PM
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4. Darn, the link doesn't work..
Time will tell how Dean does..so far.. so Great!
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:01 PM
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5. at least he didn't say 'not some wild-eyed, left-wing nut'
Was this 'take a shot at Dean Day'? Is the rove-machine calling in chits inside the democratic party?

Oh by the way Carl, Howard got clobbered in the Iowa caucuses, where the 'independent vote' doesn't actually exist, and then he got media-whored out of contention, so nothing else much mattered. So your thesis is like totally bogus, dude.





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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:36 PM
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7. LOL, only Harry Reid said that. What a weird compliment.
"not some wild-eyed, left-wing nut'"

I read that article and thought, oh jeez, Harry, what a strange compliment. :evilgrin:
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:19 PM
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6. He's the only one, though.
In all seriousness, ambivalance isn't a bad thing, and his criticisms of Dean were mild, if incorrect.

I'm frankly not concerned, and will let time tell.

So far, I'm very pleased with what Dean has been doing.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:40 PM
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9. That's what I saw as well, sounded like a fairly honest reaction
Sort of like he's waiting and seeing. So Dean needs to show the party that he can get the job done. And some in the party need to not be a stumbling block.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:40 PM
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8. Maybe he was critical to put in a plug for "Primary Reform." I'd go for
that? :shrug: I DO think Iowa and NH have served their time and we need to do a region float or mix it up with states from different regions.

This primary season was so short that many of us never had a chance to vote in our states. In NC it was the Repugs who held up our Dem Primary by rigging districts and our weak Dem Governor was okay with it, I guess.

Something needs to change with the primaries. It's hurting us...Giving us a "Front Runner' too soon before the "voters" know the candidates and too long a time for the Repugs to devise a strategy to shoot the front runner down. I'm with Levin if he wants Primary Reform. McAuliff or any of the others wouldn't have given it to us...so I don't know why Levin is trashing Dean ...unless it's to "get his ear" on this. :shrug:
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:40 PM
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10. I love you Carl but
you need to give it up man. You were schillin' for Kerry long, long ago when everyone else at least made attempts to appear neutral. Let's fact it, the Senate is another brotherhood of sorts. Kinda like skull and bones. ;-)

Julie
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 11:34 PM
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11. I agree with Levin on one point: End the New Hampshire/Iowa
death-grip on determining the Democratic candidate. That's the only major point of disagreement I have with Dean.
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