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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 06:04 PM
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why is it the repuke agenda to destroy the Murkan economy?
Why do they want to destroy the economy?

eliminate Social Security?

eliminate Medicare?

eliminate all social programs?

destroy public education?

what is their purpose?
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 06:06 PM
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1. To impoverish the majority of us
and turn us into serfs, while the filthy rich grab everything and run the country. Naturally.

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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 06:13 PM
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9. And kill those of us who are already impoverished. n/t
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 06:07 PM
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2. I believe the republicult agenda is to destroy the U.S. Government.
The economy just happens to be collateral damage.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 06:08 PM
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3. but why?
what is their ultimate goal?
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AG78 Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 06:51 PM
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20. What was
the slave owners ultimate goal?

What was the ultimate goal of the empires that tried to colonize the Middle East? Africa? North America?

Just look at what centers of power have done all throughout human history. Their ultimate goal is power, simply power. Some do it with economics. Some do it with outright violence. You can do it with almost anything.
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 07:02 PM
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21. Because "Starve the Beast" is the central tenet of their ideology.
Check out the writings of Grover Norquist and Leo Strauss, the intellectual godfathers of the neoconservative movement.

But if you are looking for rational reasons, well, there aren't any.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 12:06 AM
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24. bingo
a couple of thousand people seek ultimate power and wealth

EVERY LAST one of the rest of them is irrational.
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Danocrat Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 06:08 PM
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4. To redistribute the wealth
back to 1% of the population like it was in 1929. It took 70 years to reverse that situation and boy are they pissed about it.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 06:10 PM
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5. why does anyone outside that 1% help them then?
I can understand the current mass brainwashing that took the repukes from 20% to 50%,

but they've always had 20% of Murkans on their side? Why would 19% of Murkans want to screw themselves?
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 06:17 PM
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12. Because there are plenty of them...
... who really, really believe that associating with Repugs will make them rich, too....

It's scary, but true. There are people out there who are selfish, greedy, avaricious self-interested slobs who think that Social Security is communism and the progressive tax is against god's law. They believe the Repugs will fix those things, and so far, they're right--the Repugs have been working hard to "fix" those things.

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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 06:10 PM
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6. It will only destroy the economy for the masses at the bottom.
Edited on Mon Mar-07-05 06:12 PM by CrispyQGirl
Their agenda is to turn the country (world) into a corporate slave state. The little income the masses make will be taxed to support global dominion so the rich can get richer.

on edit:

Here's an interesting take on it:

"The Republicans Sinister Plan"

http://fixco1.com/bushplan.html
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 06:12 PM
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8. I agree that they want to do this, but
why destroy Social Security, which is paid for by middle and low-income wage earners?
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Nimrod Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 06:11 PM
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7. Desperate people have fewer choices
I honestly believe that's it. Once 99% of the population is too poor/ill/uneducated/oppressed to continue to exist normally in this prepackaged, saran-wrapped society we've created, taking final control will be much easier. People will be willing to embrace anything that offers the tiniest bit of lip service to their well being.

Sometimes I suspect the current administration is the "larval stage". Even though there's little chance they'll be able to escape this destruction of theirs unnoticed, the PNAC folks are waiting quietly in the wings preparing to step forward as the saviors. "We know those horrid people have ruined you, but look! We can make everything better if you just appoint us supreme overlords for life."

Remember that Hitler was adored by huge portions of his nation, because he stepped forward as a savior at a time when Germany was about to fall apart.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 06:15 PM
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11. At the time of the New Deal, the Repukes were about 25% of Murka
yet repuke policieswork to the advantage of only 1 or 2% of Murkans.

Why do the others work toward their own economic destruction?
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Nimrod Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 06:23 PM
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13. They've been trained well
Quite simply, they've been trained that those Goddamn homo-humping Liberals want to indoctrinate their children into homosexual training camps, murder their babies in their cribs, and take their entire paycheck away and give it to crack dealers.

Watch Animal Farm sometime. It's an allegory of Communism, but it equates very nicely to our own American culture as well. Watch Boxer the horse work himself literally to death, constantly repeating "Napoleon knows best, Napoleon is always right" like a mantra. This is your average American.

They'll figure it out eventually, but probably not before it's too late to turn back. Even those that DO figure it out will probably go along with it all anyway rather than admit they were wrong. Ego comes before self-preservation all too often.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 12:15 AM
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25. they accept some basic Republican ideas religiously
Edited on Tue Mar-08-05 12:16 AM by leftofthedial
I mean literally religiously--despite all evidence and reason to the contrary

all taxes are bad

all welfare is bad

all social programs is bad

republicans mean smaller gummint

republicans are good for business

all demonstrably false

and this doesn't begin to address the blatant lies they believe about Democrats and 'liberals"
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Nimrod Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 07:00 AM
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26. Oh yeah
None of this is exaggerated, these people really BELIEVE all of this in the literal sense. It's not a vague "Republicans are Good, Liberals are Bad" belief, it's literal.

I had someone tell me with a straight face that the economic boom under Clinton was actually Reaganomics kicking in - naturally our current slump is Clinton killing off all that propsperity for his own gain.

I opened my mouth. Closed it. Opened it. Closed it. Then just finally shook my head a little sadly and walked away.
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 06:15 PM
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10. For some, they just don't give a sh*t about anyone but themselves.
Edited on Mon Mar-07-05 06:17 PM by Lone_Wolf_Moderate
For most decent Republicans, they honestly think their policies will work.
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CindyDale Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 06:24 PM
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14. There is no reason
They are just ignorant, and the people who support them are deluded.
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 06:31 PM
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15. To Bring About the Rapture, Baby!
Jeebus won't come back until it's all Hell on Earth. That's RW thought for ya!
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 06:42 PM
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16. cuz they figure they'll be raptured any day now, read Moyers article
Edited on Mon Mar-07-05 06:43 PM by AZDemDist6
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AG78 Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 06:44 PM
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17. Same old story
"Why do they want to destroy the economy?"

They don't. They want to make it favor them even more.

"eliminate Social Security?"

Because we're all expendable, especially with a global economy. Once you're too old, too sick, too whatever(except poor...can't be too poor), they want you fighting with the other sick and old people for jobs. It'll make you "compete" harder.

"eliminate Medicare?"

Health is not a right.

"eliminate all social programs?"

Easier to divide people that way. Get the people fighting themselves.

"destroy public education?"

They know the power of education.

"what is their purpose?"

Total control. Feudalism. Privitize everything, eliminate the rabble from civil society, and hire a few of the bigger and stronger men of the population to protect them. Hey, if those hired goons have to kick your ass so that their family can eat, they'll take the money and do it.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 06:47 PM
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18. Regular Americans are likely the most dangerous threat to the global elite
Edited on Mon Mar-07-05 06:49 PM by w4rma
of any single group of people in the world. We may be mostly ignorant of the world, but we are also the folks with the most power to change it, for now.
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burn the bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 06:49 PM
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19. when we all lose our propery due to job loss or being uninsured
Guess who is gonna come in and buy up all of that reduced priced US property?
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 07:06 PM
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22. calvinism, maybe....
john calvin was a protestant reformer around the time of the 'discovery' of america who believed mankind was depraved beyond hope, with god the only soveriegn and an 'elect' predestined for salvation, an 'elect' guided by a puritanical moral code (no masturbating, no pleasure for its own sake etc) that they tell everybody to live by, and demand laws be used to enforce it
calvinism was natural progression of protestantism....once a human pope and institutional church laws were replaced by an every man for himself system (sorry ladies...inclusive language doesn't really work) and 'faith versus works' etc it all became rather confused, and confusion allowed hypocrites to sneak around, and to use the fukked up system to protect themselves, indeed to pass on their genes!
like someone once said 'nothing FAILS like success when working for the devil' and the devil today is the successful busheviks...someone should tell the american people (lol)
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 09:04 PM
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23. None of that hurts the elites and the bankruptcy makes it hard
for the next democratic President to rebuild. Otherwise known as scorched earth policy. ***holes!
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