Why are Democratic Senators enabling this evil man?

[MikeG]

Again yesterday, Democrats break ranks to support the ruination of the bankruptcy law.

Not one Republican breaks ranks.

What is the solution to this?

Don't punish the traitors?

Or wait for our luck to change?

[kentuck]

1. We need to take a critical look at our Party...

imo...

[rkc3]

7. The dems have let the repubs have their way with them for a long while.

I don't know if the ghosts of Clinton are still scaring the shit out of them or if they are only out for themselves and shilling for their corporate masters.

Either way, they have let the repubs pass some of the worst legislation for citizens in a long, long time - without much of a fight.

[Skidmore]

20. The problem is the Dem politicos think that if they just look like

they are engaged in active listening and mouth a few platitudes to us and go about business as usual, that is all that is needed. It will take the 06 election cycle for some of them to get clobbered for them to understand and take seriously a grassroots movement. They deserve to get clobbered.

[lojasmo]

2. Ooh, support them when they run for president....that's a plan! EOM

[MadAsHellNewYorker]

3. The problem is some of these "Traitors"

are outspoken against the chimp and most of his policies. I wish the democrats were more like the republicans in refusing to break rank and support this (R) president.

What is with the democrats and trying to keep an air of "non-partisanship"? Those days are long over. The republicans are more partisan than democrats ever were.

[CrispyQ]

4. Letters, letters, letters!

To the congresspeople who broke rank & to your congresspeople & to the editor to educate the voters just how their elected Dems are voting.

I have my second letter to Mr. Salazar ready to go & am working on one for the two local papers to tell people just how this DINO has voted his first 2 months in office.

It gets more grim everyday.

[MikeG]

5. None of the traitors are in my state.

[confludemocrat]

6. This is true

Take some time, write a snappy one to one or more of these people.

BTW, have we heard from any of these people WHY THEY FUCKING DID THIS
TO US??!!

[flordehinojos]

8. THE DEMOCRATS HAVE LOST THEIR RUTTER!!!!!!!!

[wildmanj]

9. dems

let's face the cold hard facts of life----WE HAVE THE BEST GOVERNMENT THAT MONEY CAN BUY

[OneBlueSky]

10. because they're all bought and paid for by the corporations . . .

the ONLY solution to this entire mess is dis-empowering corporations . . . which means refusing all political contributions from corporations, and ultimately revoking corporate personhood . . . as it stands now, corporations (and the wealthy individuals who run them) control EVERYTHING, and there's NO ONE representing the average citizen, i.e. you and me . . . real change will come only when corporations are no longer calling all the shots . . . how this can happen when all of our representatives are in the corporate back pocket is beyond me . . .

[w4rma]

11. The DLC is a corrupt organization. The "Dems" who did this were DLCers(nt)

[JI7]

13. is Robert Byrd DLC ?

[cestpaspossible]

15. The villians are the Senators who voted for cloture

Biden (D-DE), Yea
Byrd (D-WV), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Pryor (D-AR), Yea
Salazar (D-CO), Yea
Stabenow (D-MI), Yea

these sixteen individuals are to blame and no one else. It was their responsibility and they are the ones who deserve the anger and withered support.

[TankGirlUSMC]

12. Say what you want but Republicans have

party unity and we don't!

[kentuck]

14. Why was this poster banned ??

Did she say something else more telling? ?

[strategery blunder]

18. She couldn't have. She only had one post.

:shrug:

And her assertion is blatantly obvious, proven by recent vote tallies.

[Padraig18]

16. First, we need to learn to think critically about legislation.

This whole 'if the Repubs favor it then we MUST oppose it' mentality is as mindless as it is destructive to our own long-term interests. While the Repubs have certainly sponsored a fair amount of downright mean-spirited and atrocious legislation, it does not automatically follow that EVERY bill introduced by someone in the opposite party is a bad bill. The truth of the matter is that bankruptcy DOES need reform, both in terms of creditor AND debtor rights. Not every section of the bill is bad, although overall it is a flawed piece of legislation.

What we do not and cannot know is what the future holds--- what 'deals' or tradeoffs have been made. I would be willing to wager that some of our Democratic senators who voted for this bill have reached a handshake agreement with some of their Republican colleagues to amend certain of the worst aspects of this legislation at a future time; in othe words, I fully expect to see amendments tacked on to future legislation which will not be opposed by enough members of the opposite party to enable them to become law.

[MissMarple]

17. What a sensible thing to say. Thank you.

I have been thinking along similar lines, and it would be nice if the "if you aren't against them, you're against us" kind of reaction was limited to the Republicans, but it's not. It is a human reaction that can be tempered by measured thought. That is what liberals should cultivate. IMHO

And I do have some difficulty getting rabid about this vote. In fact, if this bill should become law with all it's inequities and omissions, things could become very interesting for those responsible. I'm going to stock up on some popcorn. :evilgrin:

[cally]

19. I disagree....this is not business as usual

Dems get screwed every time they do this with the new regime. That was old politics and it worked. The new politics is that the Repubs in charge cannot be trusted, ever.

Fight every bill and put it into the record that Dems do not support the corporate greed. We may not win this battle but we will eventually win. If we enable the takeover of the government, then we are not different than the other party. We will not win, ever. We have to be an OPPOSITION party.

On edit: I knew it. Feingold is saying that it was a bait and switch. Dem lawmakers are just idiots sometimes. Here's a link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1649257

[MissMarple]

21. It's pretty clear Democrats are the opposition party.

There is so much to oppose, everything that is put forward by the Republicans stinks to high heaven. And even if it looks somewhat plausible or sounds good, there is a catch. It is not funded, purposefully duplicitous, or otherwise undermined.

I'm having serious concerns about this as a radical, neocon tactic. I think it may be planned to make Democrats look impotent, like perennial malcontents. There has to be another way to fight this, I just don't know what. But we'd find out how, and this screaming about "bad" Dems is incredibly counterproductive.

[applegrove]

22. I think Dems are picking their fights. They have not choice. They are

not in power.