Ron Reagan blogs about BEASTIALITY

[MadisonProgressive]

March 9, 2005 | 1:08 p.m. ET

What do animals have to do with the same-sex marriage debate? (Ron Reagan)


Yesterday, my home state of Washington took up the issue of same sex marriage.

The issue did attract a group of protestors to our state capitol.

Now you know what this debate means: Let the gay-bashing begin. Named the fave right wing sport for several years running, gay-bashing always gets a big boost from the so-called “gay marriage” debate.

Much of it is entirely predictable, even kind of amusing. Homophobes don't seem to get what the rest of us are hip to— that the people most worked up about other folk's sexuality tend to be insecure about their own. Their lips may say “sanctity of marriage” but we hear “closet case.”

And, inevitably, someone like Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania will launch things into the realm of the truly weird. Remember when he dragged man on dog sex into the discussion? Man on dog? The love that dare not bark its name? How did we get from matrimony— to man's best, um,... Saturday night ever? I began to wonder just what videos this guy might have in his private collection, quickly concluded I didn't really want to know, and chalked it up to a peculiar fascination of the senator's.

But then, Justice Antonin Scalia dropped the b-bomb, saying that same sex marriage would lead to bestiality. Apparently, the far right spends a disturbing amount of time thinking about sex with animals.

Two obvious thought arise: First, the two issues are entirely unrelated. On the one hand you have two humans wanting to get hitched; on the other, a drunken farmer and outraged sheep. Second, these people need help and we're not talking a trip to the petting zoo.

A word of advice to the gay-unfriendly fringe: ix-nay on the animal stuff. Whatever point you're trying to make, this can't be helping. And besides, it's just plain creepy.

And a recommendation to the rest of us: the next time Santorum, Scalia or any of their ilk drop by for dinner, you might want to consider locking up the pets... just to be on the safe side.

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[Mojambo]

1. Hilarious and very well put. n/t

[BlueEyedSon]

2. "The love that dare not bark its name." LOL nt

[janx]

14. It is no surprise that Ron Reagan defends dogs,

given that he hosts dog shows on a regular basis. I wouldn't want my dog anywhere near Man-On-Dog Santorum.

[bklyncowgirl]

3. Lock up the goats, people, Scalia's back in town! nt

[snippy]

6. I thought Fat Tony was a sheep man. Does he go both ways? n/t

[Ilsa]

4. I love this. Put the onus of linkage squarely back on them since

they are the only ones who see it that way.

[redqueen]

5. Hah!

Love it! :7

[etherealtruth]

7. Gives more (unwanted) insight into Scalia's psyche...

[whistle]

8. Thanks for the link, I saw Ronald earlier making that statement...

...on his mid-day show. Here is what I wrote to him:

<snip>

Ronald,

Today's show where you took to task conservatives who are drawing associations between gay and lesbian relationships/marriages and bestiality was a thumb in the eye of right wing bigots everywhere. Bingo!

I think you most definitely struck an underlying centrifuge of abnormal psychological obsession and preoccupation with sex among the sick right wing leaders of this country. Bravo to you that you pointed out the likely source of these bizarre inferences as the right wing accusers selected exposures to porno videos, web sites of preference and perhaps their own individual experiences as being at the root of their thinking that homosexuality and having sex with animals are the same thing.

One look at Justice Antonin Scalia ought to send any animal menagerie into a frenzy! I hate to think what reaction Scalia's unrobed torso would bring in bathhouses.

Whistle

Orlando FL

[maxsolomon]

9. logical fallacy: fallacy of distraction #3

http://datanation.com/fallacies/distract/ss.htm

Slippery Slope

Definition:

In order to show that a proposition P is unacceptable, a sequence of increasingly unacceptable events is shown to follow from P. A slippery slope is an illegitimate use of the "if-then" operator.

Examples:
(i) If we pass laws against fully-automatic weapons, then it won't be long before we pass laws on all weapons, and then we will begin to restrict other rights, and finally we will end up living in a communist state. Thus, we should not ban fully-automatic weapons.

(ii) You should never gamble. Once you start gambling you find it hard to stop. Soon you are spending all your money on gambling, and eventually you will turn to crime to support your earnings.

(iii) If I make an exception for you then I have to make an exception for everyone.

Proof:
Identify the proposition P being refuted and identify the final event in the series of events. Then show that this final event need not occur as a consequence of P.
References:
Cedarblom and Paulsen: 137

[cally]

10. Ron Reagan, Jr. has his father's way with words

Reagan, Sr. was just funny. I disliked all his policies but he made his point well. Reagan, Jr. has the same gift with words. I agree with his points and I'm ecstatic he's on his side. My favorite part:

"Two obvious thought arise: First, the two issues are entirely unrelated. On the one hand you have two humans wanting to get hitched; on the other, a drunken farmer and outraged sheep. Second, these people need help and we're not talking a trip to the petting zoo.

A word of advice to the gay-unfriendly fringe: ix-nay on the animal stuff. Whatever point you're trying to make, this can't be helping. And besides, it's just plain creepy."

[Hailtothechimp]

11. Well said, Ron.

He clearly is the anti-W.

[me b zola]

12. I heard him rant earlier today

I have told myself that I will make a point of watching his show whenever I can, and e-mailing him as well.

I do not think anyone could have said it better, he is wonderful.

[ebayfool]

15. I try to watch his show, but most of the time I get so pissed off at ...

Monica Crowley's mouth I end up switching channels. Apparently someone told her it was HER show, so she screams everyone else down - including Ron. Swear the *itch loves the sound of her own voice more than she likes having a job. Too bad they don't stick her w/Joe 'dead intern in my office' Scarborough & let them scream each other into dual strokes. Ron may need an opposing voice for the show, but she just too damn Faux News for me!

[Bake]

13. "Back when men were men and sheep were nervous"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Ron's get a bead on reality, thankfully!

Bake

[orleans]

16. do you have a link to this? i can't find his blog

[MadisonProgressive]

17. Here's the link

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7117843/#050309c

[bunkerbuster1]

18. Four more words: Braves Pitcher John Smoltz.

last year, when commenting on gay marriage, he said: "What's next--marrying an animal?"

The AJC's Jay Bookman had some fun pimp-slapping the redneck over that one:

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0713-04.htm

So I have a proposal: If the real, underlying issue in this debate is the fear that human beings will someday be allowed to marry animals — if Smoltz, Dailey and others are honestly and truly worried by that prospect — then let's address that issue head on. Let's pass a Federal Animals, Relationships and Marriage amendment to the U.S. Constitution that outlaws all interspecies marriages, period.

The FARM act would have two other important advantages over the proposed Federal Marriage Amendment. First, this is a deeply divided nation, and the last thing we need is something to get us even angrier at one another. What we need instead is something that will unite us, a cause that all of us can rally behind. And surely all Americans — with the notable exception of one very lonely guy out in Missouri — can get behind the FARM act and thus protect human-to-human marriage from this dire threat.

By championing the FARM act, President Bush finally could make good on his promise to be a uniter, not a divider. And John Kerry could use the amendment to demonstrate yet again that there are some issues too important to compromise on. As far as I know, he is now and always has been opposed to human-animal sex, even during the '60s.

Second, and more important, my proposal would address a glaring loophole that Dailey, Smoltz and other courageous crusaders against bestiality have apparently overlooked. Pixel, you see, is a female pony, which means that technically speaking, she and Mark in Missouri have actually enjoyed a stable, heterosexual relationship. A ban on same-sex marriage would do nothing to prevent them joining in holy matrimony. Only the FARM act can save the republic from that travesty.