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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:43 PM
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Michael Moore was right, listen up y'all:
When policitians get treated like the rest of us, THAT is when they decide to make laws that help people.

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Out of self-interest is why anyone in office does didley squat. Wellstone not excepted; anyone can lure you for your vote, then they vote for something that's against why you voted for him, and then have him turn to you saying "it was a mistake, give me your vote again!"

Get real, all of you us. Politicians are not in it for you or me. No damn D or R about it. It's about I, U C?

Why else do they give themselves big benefits?

Why else do they call outsiders "inexperienced" or "naive" (yet nobody notices when one calls out the other as being "career politician")

So, I refuse to vote in 2006. I'm not wasting a damn minute of time available to me to help out those anti-society cretins. I'm going to spend that minute trying to survive. They're not worth my vote, sorry.

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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:50 PM
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1. There are other important races on your ballot in 2006 besides a
senator or a congressman/woman. Your state legistlature is probably up for a vote... maybe the state senate or Gov of your state. Skip the lines that have no choice that you like, but still go out and vote for others. The Repub have spent 20 years building their party from city council seats and on up.... we have to do the same.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:00 PM
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4. Better yet, where there is no alternative
between some DLC wimp and some GOP sack of shit, vote Green or any other third party. Don't just skip your vote. Make it count as "none of the above."

Oh, and I've been telling people to vote incumbents out for years, all of them, every election.

When they can't set themselves up as a separate class of human being, there to lead rather than serve, perhaps they'll start to get the idea of what being accountable to the voters means.
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Enquiringkitty Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:17 PM
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6. If you don't vote, you don't have any room to complain when you don't
like something because you didn't try to stop it or promote it. Pick a side of an issue or election....any side. Giving up and refusing to participate just lets the "takers" run over you.

You are right. The poster needs to get involved with his local and state elections and start building a strong Democratic base at home. This will help support the Washington Democrats.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:22 PM
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7. I vote, but I never understood that logic.
Sometimes one's beliefs don't jive at all with what's available. Or maybe the choices are undesirable for a host of reasons.

You know what? When all ballots come with a box marked "None of the above" then I'll reconsider.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:58 PM
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2. What did I miss?
Michael Moore said not to vote? :shrug: I'm sure he wouldn't agree with you about this.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:59 PM
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3. Michael Moore said not to vote?
I must've missed that speech.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:07 PM
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5. Is this yours?
I found a nose on the floor.
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:46 PM
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8. I'm not voting either but for different reasons.
As long as the voting machines are counting the votes, my vote is useless as is anybody else's vote. It has nothing to do w/ the supposed self-aggrandizement of the politicians. That's always going to be true regardless of what happens. People are people, but there are good politicians and bad ones and right now we have some awfully bad ones in office. The question is how to get them out.

I said two years before the 04 election that if the votes were counted right, no Dem could lose in 04 but if the voting machines counted the votes and weren't audited that no Dem could win. It turned out just as I predicted. That prediction holds for any election in the near future.

So the only issue worth talking about is the voting machines.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:00 PM
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10. My thoughts exactly. I won't be voting again until my vote is secure. eom
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:35 PM
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12. there will not be another secure vote until
those damned machines are hacked physically to pieces, and tossed in the harbor. Better yet, ground to dust.

it should have happened by now after the past election. Hell, we should have learned after 2000.

dp
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:56 PM
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9. there are alot of reasons how things got this bad.
right out there in Everytown U.S.A. stealth candidates have won ,school board,and other little elections that hurt us all.All our votes can do now is to stop the crap at a grass roots level.Please vote,we need you .
I have copped out on local elections,well thats where alot of this facism starts.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:04 PM
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11. First of all...
Depending on your precinct, that minute may very well become several hours. So kudos to you for the gambit.

Second, If you want to spend any decent time on anything worthwhile, I might suggest Instant Run-Off Voting as a pet project.

Other than that, your best bet is to leave the country.

(I'm seriously considering Switzerland - I get to brush up on my linguistics.)
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