THE SIEGE 1998 movie with Bruce Willis and Denzel Washington

[KBlagburn]

Has anyone seen this movie. Did life imitate art? This movie was made in 1998 and has eerie parallels to what has happened since 911. This is very disturbing. Your thoughts?

[markbowen]

1. Seen it

I saw it years ago and immediately thought of it after 9-11 -- a major terror attack in NY leads to harrassment and ultimately internments of Arab Americans, just as the U.S. did to Japanese Americans after Pearl Harbor.

Though we have not seen exactly the same type of internment camps, one wonders if they do not exist.

What is ironic is that this movie stars ultra-Republican, war-mongering, Bush neophyte Bruce Willis.

[pretzel4gore]

2. in other words, bruce willis is a dupe....

and welcome to DU mb....despite the hookum quality of most 'action' movies, some do have something to say, if only as an aside....have you guys ever saw the 'lone gunman' (re x files) episode where hijacked jets are crashed into the WTC? it's available online, and is amazing (the jets were 'global hawked', which makes MIHOP the easiest explanation for how all the rube goldberg elements 'worked' on 911- for example not even one 'hijacker' flipped out and brought down the house o cards, nor one atc person came forward in immediate aftermath, with proof, nor one mediawhore in position to scream 'i'm mad as hell...!'etc....
it was taking candy from a big fat stupid (bruce willis?) baby
bush the giggler, what a maroon

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[Last Lemming]

6. I have to say

liberal-down-to-my-fingertips that I am--I'm beginning to rethink my position on gun control. . .a lot more liberals used to be much more "pro-gun" I think--for the reasons you are eluding to.

My question is, why are conservatives such as yourself, supporting a party which is in so many ways so fascist in character. I realize that you find yourself with strangebedfellows when you join the great slumber party of politics. . .but it seems to me that, for example, the Choicepoint problems and issues of invasion of privacy should have you screaming. . .

Welcome to DU.

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[VOX]

7. PC, I respect where you're coming from.

Wanted you to know that should you get banned. Actually, there are far more liberals who are responsible gun owners than the propaganda would have you believe.

And I agree in principle with what you're saying about the politics in this country -- we have been made into a divided nation, a nation that is at ideological war with itself, which allows the ruling entities to get away with theft and murder, while the split-apart population figuratively chews at its own constricted limbs, not unlike a crazed animal caught in a trap.

Sooner or later, this country is going to have to come back together, and find some common ground to work from.

[Pepperbelly]

8. they won't tombstone you for that post ...

and there are many gum owners here. Many, many vets as well. Take care.

[manic expression]

9. Hmm...

I'm pretty sure you won't get banned for a post like that.
I'll try to address your points and make a good discussion and not a shouting match.

The politics of this country is, in my opinion, not like two squabbling parents. The left has been disowned time and again by the party that supposedly (but does not) represents liberals/progressives. I cannot make a connection of two fighting sides when the senate just completely financially screwed the US people in a joint effort (bankruptcy). Both parties are moving to the right, and the US is more neo-con than ever. The fact is that most people have no "side" to turn to, and therefore end up taking the lesser of two evils.

I would like to (respectfully) ask you: why are you not in the middle right now? Martial law has been imposed on any dissenting demonstration (look what happened in Savannah, for instance); citizens and other law-abiding people have been detained indefinitely for no real reason; we have incarcerated and torture untold numbers of people around the world; our rights have been trampled on (by Bush and the Republicans, as well as the "other parent")...the list goes on and on and on.... The place to win back our rights is not in the middle, but wherever a person may find themselves. The right wing is carrying out these abuses, and the left wing, although almost powerless, is trying to stop that. Traditional conservatives are being phased out (another night of long knives), and the neo-cons are gaining full power in almost every branch of government. If you think you can reverse that by going to the non-existent middle once it goes "too far", you are quite mistaken (again, in my opinion).

Look, this country IS traveling the path of fascist Germany at full-tilt. If we do not fight this, something which is the responsibility of every person, the consequences will be horrible. No one will be in the middle, as there will be no middle. You are either with Bush or you are with the terrorists: the words of the right, echoing from the mouth of Hitler.

Do you think that our country will go down in history for one of the worst actions in recent history? I certainly think so, and opposing it is what I aim to do, I only wonder why you have not done the same.

I hope you got what I was trying to say.

[corker]

10. I am a liberal

I own guns and am very good with them. I grew up shooting NRA and became a marksman. Guns don't kill, *'s policies do....

[Jeff in Cincinnati]

11. Surprise! No Tombstone!

Thoughtful conservative viewpoints are welcome here. And I'm with many of the others who have replied to your post. I'm a gun-toting liberal and frankly can't figure out how gun control ever became a liberal issue.

We all want to decrease the effects of guns as they are used in crimes, and nobody wants psychopaths and young (unsupervised) children handling firearms. But to issue a blanket proclamation that nobody -- no matter how careful and law-abiding you might be -- can own a firearm is just bad politics and Democrats shouldn't have anything to do with it.

[solinvictus]

12. Economic Liberal with Guns Here..

There are more gunowners here than you'd imagine and I believe the number is growing every day. Even in the Gay/Lesbian/Bi/Trans forum, plenty of people are speaking about becoming new gun owners. The political and economic climate is terrible in this country and any prudent person would take steps to protect themselves and their loved ones.

[mandyky]

5. Actually Willis is a supporting actor in this one

Washington was the start, and the guy who plays Monk was in it too.

I also thought of this on, and after 9-11, esp around the the gathering up of Arab/Muslim men.

[fujiyama]

4. I saw it a while back

before 9/11 and I immediately thought of that movie when it happened.

Not a bad movie and I watched it once after 9/11.

I saw a few minutes tonight and I found the bits about torture especially prophetic and creepy.