We should continue to publicly bash Lieberman always.

[LoZoccolo]

After all, that's what Republicans due to their more moderate membership. Look at how they've subjected Arnold Schwarzenegger to scorn and ridicule - that's how they won the election. Do you think they'd ever let someone like him speak before their convention? That's why they're in the White House and Congress right now.

_{NOTE: This post is sarcastic.}

[CTLawGuy]

1. *cough*

Arlen Specter *cough*



When they let the moderates speak at their convention, that is a show for the public and the swing voters. The base knows what the party REALLY stands for.

[BrklynLiberal]

5. heh heh Arlen "testicles in a purse" Spector?

Schwarzenegger is NOT a Senator, has no voice whatsoever in Party politics. Neither does Giuliani, Pataki, or any of the other so-called moderate voices that the Repukes like to parade around to make it look like they are a "Big Tent". They have Senators like Zell Miller speak at the Convention, instead of Senators like Chaffe or Snowe.
Come on! Stop licking up the Repuke Koolaid!!!!
Would The Repukes EVER have a pro-choice Senator be Majority Leader?
or have a pro-choice Representative as House Majority Leader? PUH-LEEZE!

[meegbear]

2. You just gotta ask yourself WWND

What Would Noel Do

[iamjoy]

3. Hear, Hear...

And Pro-Life Democrats, they ought to just be kicked out of the party. Why would we want to have them speak at our convention? The Republicans don't let Pro-Choice party members muck up their Pro-Life agenda by speaking in prime time at their national convention.

<more sarcasm>

[Salviati]

12. I'm not in favor of kicking them out..

but on no accounts should they hold positions of leadership in the party or be used as party spokesmen. Liebermans voting record is not that bad, but every time he opens his mouth, I just want to cram a dirty sock in it to keep him from kissing republican ass. Kerry won connecticut by 10 points, Dodd won re-election by over 30, you'd think that we could elect someone who talks a better game than Lieberman in Connecticut.

[LoZoccolo]

16. That's a plan.

They never let Arnold speak for the party, either. What works for them should work for us.

_{NOTE: This post is sarcastic.}

[AP]

4. Republicans don't bash their more moderate members. In fact, Grover...

...Norquist holds a debate every Thurday. He allows spokespeople from each side of any issue which divides the right present their case. After they debate, the 200 or so attendees representing all the major think tanks vote. They all agree to support the side that wins the vote and they don't attack the side that loses the vote.

The Republicans tolerate dissent within the right way more than the left tolerates dissent within the left.

Furthermore, I can't remember the last time I heard a live Republican, no matter how RW they seem, criticize ANY Republicans politician, much less a Republican Senator from Maine or RI.

[BrklynLiberal]

6. They castrate dissenters. That is why you don't hear them.

[AP]

26. Actually, not true. The people who lose the vote one week at Norquist's

breakfasts show up the next week becaue they know that although they might not have won the previous week, they'll win in the future.

Seriously, Republicans play team ball much better than Democrats. Pro-life or environmentalist Republicans are willing to stick with the party because they know they'll win on taxes or national security, for example, or because being a Republican fits into the way they see themselves while being a Democrat doesn't, and they see that bigger picture much beter.

[LoZoccolo]

7. The only way to win is to go further left.

Even if it means losing.

_{NOTE: This post is sarcastic.}

[dolstein]

10. And the only way to grow the party is by weeding out moderates

NT

[Beacho]

8. 'lieberman' and 'moderate'?

It's not about where he is on the political spectrum, it's about his kow towing to this corrupt administration and taking every opportunity to smear other members in his party.

Please spare me the 'but his positions on X, Y. and Z are "progressive"' trope.

[dolstein]

9. So you want to be known as the left-wing "Club for Growth", eh?

Sure, there are certain right-wing elements in the Republican Party who want to purge the GOP of anyone who seems even remotely moderate. But these people are widely dismissed as nutjobs, even by many conservatives.

Hey, if you want to give up any pretense of rationality and simply spend your time dumping on Democrats like Lieberman because they only vote the liberal position around 80-85% of the time, be my guest. Just don't expect the rest of us to take you seriously. I save my respect and admiration for people who are focused on growing the party and defeating Republicans.

[Beacho]

11. Obviously you didn't read what I posted

I said that it didn't have anything to do with his positions, but what his actions are.

Besides, Joe is a died in the wool PNACer. I do not support PNACers, no matter what their party affiliation.

I do not vote/support democrats to get on their knees for the GOP. Why that makes me a 'left wing' version of CFG in your eyes makes no sense to me what so ever.

P.S. If Lieberman is the definition of moderate, then I don't want any part of 'moderates'.

For twelve years I've had these DLC assholes tell me to shut my liberal ass up and get in the back of the bus and now it's MY turn.

[LoZoccolo]

14. Joe Lieberman is not a PNACer.

You have four hours to find his name as a signatory on their website starting...now.

[Name removed]

15. Deleted message

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[LoZoccolo]

17. You admit you were wrong AND are going to get your posted deleted!

:thumbsup:

[Beacho]

18. If you say so, sparky

Lieberman carries water for the neocons. Anyone that has watched this man over the last four years sees it plain as day.


Go ahead and declare victory, if that's what blows your skirt up

The only thing that matters is this, the phoney 'moderate' enablers of the Bush adminsitration, (DLC) are finished. They just don't know it yet.


The rank and file are pissed, energised, and they're coming for you.


And I'm proud to be one of them.

[LoZoccolo]

19. But he's not a PNACer.

So you were wrong.

And I do not wear a skirt, so... :hi: :nuke:

[Name removed]

21. Deleted message

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[LoZoccolo]

22. You should not make fun of the mods.

They can delete your posts.

[dolstein]

24. No, I read your post

And now that I've read your second post, I reaffirm everything I said.

Frankly, I'm getting a little tired of all these DU'ers with persecution complexes blaming the DLC for everything that's gone wrong in their lives.

[Beacho]

25. Blame has nothing to do with it

It's about a failed strategy and treating the rank and file like they were the hired help.

The money faction is going to have to put on a new disguise, this one is no longer of any use.

The DLC is done. End of story

And speaking of being done, so are we.

Ta!

[LoZoccolo]

13. Not only am I the president of the Club for Growth...

...I'm also a customer!

[sandnsea]

20. Support John Orman

I think it's possible to support a new Dem candidate for Connecticut without ripping apart Lieberman. If Orman runs a campaign on issues, and not just tearing up Lieberman, it could be good for the party. Or it could lead to yet another Republican senator. Still, I think the Democratic Party has to have this debate and Connecticut is as good a place to fight it out as any.

http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=571

[Beacho]

23. Does he have a website?

Is he taking donations?

I'll put it on my email list if you have the info

[applegrove]

27. Big Tent guys. Love it or Loose it! n/t

[Beacho]

28. That sword cuts both ways

knowuddimean?

[w4rma]

29. Lieberman started it and has continued doing it, but he's not going to

finish it.